Sony: PSP News and Discussion Thread **New Version Revealed (page 11)**
01-25-2011, 11:46 AM
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^ Alright...so, that would mean the Nintendo Gameboy/DS is not employing the correct strategy either since it does not do "everyhing"...? 
And again, personally, I disagree. As much as I like my "do-everything" Android phone, there are things that it does offer that aren't that enticing. Sure, the games are cute...but, they do not offer the replay or the time value of some of the games you can purchase for a portable gaming console (i.e. Gameboy, PSP). So, totally different niche.
The phone can take pictures...but, honestly, if I want a nice picture, I'm using my DSLR.
The phone can surf the web. But, honestly, I'd rather it be on my laptop or desktop. I can keep going. The phone is good for 2 things...needing to call someone quickly and to text someone quickly. But, do I want to respond to your post on it? Heck no.
There are OTHER devices made for that. And yes, the PS3 does do everything as it states. But, truly? It is used for only 2 things at home for me: gaming and Blu-Raying. Everything else? I didn't buy it for the other features.
And sure, some iPhone games are neat. But, again...does not truly stack up. Can you REALLY play Street Fighter 2 on the iPhone? Can you TRULY play Metal Gear Solid on the iPhone? Can you TRULY play one of the new Zelda games on the iPhone? Nope.
So, it's not truly doing everything. It offers SOME gaming...but, limited overall in regards to scope.
And again, personally, I disagree. As much as I like my "do-everything" Android phone, there are things that it does offer that aren't that enticing. Sure, the games are cute...but, they do not offer the replay or the time value of some of the games you can purchase for a portable gaming console (i.e. Gameboy, PSP). So, totally different niche.
The phone can take pictures...but, honestly, if I want a nice picture, I'm using my DSLR.
The phone can surf the web. But, honestly, I'd rather it be on my laptop or desktop. I can keep going. The phone is good for 2 things...needing to call someone quickly and to text someone quickly. But, do I want to respond to your post on it? Heck no.
There are OTHER devices made for that. And yes, the PS3 does do everything as it states. But, truly? It is used for only 2 things at home for me: gaming and Blu-Raying. Everything else? I didn't buy it for the other features.
And sure, some iPhone games are neat. But, again...does not truly stack up. Can you REALLY play Street Fighter 2 on the iPhone? Can you TRULY play Metal Gear Solid on the iPhone? Can you TRULY play one of the new Zelda games on the iPhone? Nope.
So, it's not truly doing everything. It offers SOME gaming...but, limited overall in regards to scope.
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01-25-2011, 12:24 PM
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I cant believe it but i agree with Yumcha 
01-25-2011, 12:26 PM
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I disagree.
The DS is more for kids, that's Nintendo's intended market. No need for it to be an everything device.
Sony is shooting for kids AND teens/adult market. This demographic wants and is used to having more.
I think Sony's strategy is short sided.
The PSP has potential to be a big winner and a leader with the ability to do all things and have analog controls which are a must for gaming, but cutting features will have it still trailing the DS, and meanwhile gaming will continue to gain and gain on smartphone devices leaving Sony with less and less market for the PSP.
The DS is more for kids, that's Nintendo's intended market. No need for it to be an everything device.
Sony is shooting for kids AND teens/adult market. This demographic wants and is used to having more.
I think Sony's strategy is short sided.
The PSP has potential to be a big winner and a leader with the ability to do all things and have analog controls which are a must for gaming, but cutting features will have it still trailing the DS, and meanwhile gaming will continue to gain and gain on smartphone devices leaving Sony with less and less market for the PSP.
01-25-2011, 01:07 PM
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01-25-2011, 01:50 PM
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I disagree.
The DS is more for kids, that's Nintendo's intended market. No need for it to be an everything device.
Sony is shooting for kids AND teens/adult market. This demographic wants and is used to having more.
I think Sony's strategy is short sided.
The PSP has potential to be a big winner and a leader with the ability to do all things and have analog controls which are a must for gaming, but cutting features will have it still trailing the DS, and meanwhile gaming will continue to gain and gain on smartphone devices leaving Sony with less and less market for the PSP.
The DS is more for kids, that's Nintendo's intended market. No need for it to be an everything device.
Sony is shooting for kids AND teens/adult market. This demographic wants and is used to having more.
I think Sony's strategy is short sided.
The PSP has potential to be a big winner and a leader with the ability to do all things and have analog controls which are a must for gaming, but cutting features will have it still trailing the DS, and meanwhile gaming will continue to gain and gain on smartphone devices leaving Sony with less and less market for the PSP.
I think adding a phone feature is not necessary...and teens/adults don't need ALL of that stuff crammed into a device.
Smartphones are selling well because, for the MOST part, people are after them for the social aspect (the ability to access Facebook, Twitter, e-mail, text). It's to communicate.
For me? I could care less about those other than texting and e-mail. But, e-mailing on the smartphone is not my favorite thing. I have a smartphone because it does a nice job of organizing (which was what smartphones started out with: PDAphone).
So, demographically, I am not totally sure that Sony will gain more sales by cramming in the ability to call people.
Anyhow, is that pic the leaked image...?
01-25-2011, 01:51 PM
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01-25-2011, 01:52 PM
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I'm scratching my head pondering why Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 and soon to be launched PSP Phone (by Ericsson again) is not being spoken out?
Anyways, adding extra service charge to PSP by adding phone service is stupid. VoIP should be more than enough, if they're even willing to add it.
Anyways, adding extra service charge to PSP by adding phone service is stupid. VoIP should be more than enough, if they're even willing to add it.
01-25-2011, 01:55 PM
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^ I think the PSP-Phone may be something entirely different too. Although, is that confirmed to be released or tabled now the PSP2 is due...?
01-25-2011, 02:02 PM
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PSP phone is off of Sony Ericsson while actual PSP (and soon to come out PSP2) is off of SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment)
so, yes, they are different. But pretty much does what moogs looking for
so, yes, they are different. But pretty much does what moogs looking for
01-25-2011, 02:06 PM
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So then, Waldorf: Sony is making a PSP-"phone" just for you.
Stop complaining.
But, yes...I know...Sony still sucks.
Stop complaining.
But, yes...I know...Sony still sucks.
01-25-2011, 05:11 PM
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^^ Ya see...Sony listens to me!!! 
01-25-2011, 09:11 PM
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wtf... i said they were making a phone that can play PSP games a while back
01-26-2011, 11:58 AM
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^ Nice find, Kimchi 1...Neat...but, I'm not getting it. And I'm the biggest Sony whore there is on here.
01-26-2011, 12:10 PM
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Looks decent to me
01-26-2011, 04:09 PM
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^^ I dunno...don't really care......I didn't watch the vid.
Point being that Sony can and should produce a PSP w/ phone.
Sony can and should compete with smartphones that game.
Sony is king in games....and they should take it to the mobile phone market.
Point being that Sony can and should produce a PSP w/ phone.
Sony can and should compete with smartphones that game.
Sony is king in games....and they should take it to the mobile phone market.
01-26-2011, 04:34 PM
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sorry. but that is Xperia with gamepad functionalities, not PSP with a phone capabilities
they have not confirmed this will actually play any PSP games on it (but would be nice if they do)
SE (Sony Ericsson) and SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment) are very different divisions
totally different situation here if you wanted PSP with a phone
but reading reviews, i'm glad SE has improved a lot in their android device at least
they have not confirmed this will actually play any PSP games on it (but would be nice if they do)
SE (Sony Ericsson) and SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment) are very different divisions
totally different situation here if you wanted PSP with a phone
but reading reviews, i'm glad SE has improved a lot in their android device at least
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01-26-2011, 09:24 PM
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01-27-2011, 02:20 AM
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ohh yea forgot about that.
01-27-2011, 02:24 AM
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the specs
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/the-sony-psp2/
Specs include a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor, 5-inch touchscreen OLED display with 960 x 544 resolution, dual analog sticks (not nubs as on the current generation), 3G, WiFi, GPS, a rear-mounted touchpad, the same accelerometer / gyroscope motion sensing as in the PlayStation Move, an electronic compass, and cameras on both the front and back. Available this holiday season. Wait... what?!
Betcha didn't think this day would come, but it finally has. Sony has just come clean with its next-generation PlayStation Portable. It's actually codenamed NGP and will revolve around five key concepts: Revolutionary User Interface, Social Connectivity, Location-based Entertainment, Converging Real and Virtual (augmented) Reality. It will be compatible with the PlayStation Suite.
Specs include a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor, 5-inch touchscreen OLED display with 960 x 544 resolution, dual analog sticks (not nubs as on the current generation), 3G, WiFi, GPS, a rear-mounted touchpad, the same accelerometer / gyroscope motion sensing as in the PlayStation Move, an electronic compass, and cameras on both the front and back. Available this holiday season. Wait... what?!
Sony's next PSP, codenamed NGP
Games will come on "new media," not UMD anymore, but we're unclear on what sort of flash memory is being used. Sony's rather proud of the fact it's offering the world's first dual analog stick combo on a portable device, though we're more geeked about the quadrupling of pixel count from the original PSP.
Sony's live event has been graced by demos of some pretty popular games, including Killzone, Resistance, Little Big Planet, and Uncharted -- with the latter serving as a demo platform to show off how the NGP's rear touchpad can be used to more intuitively climb up some vines. That touch panel on the back is the same size and positioned directly under the front OLED touchscreen, which allows for some pretty sophisticated controls when using the two simultaneously.
The new console's UI will be called LiveArea, which has a bunch of vertically navigable home screens and built-in social networking (presumably through PSN). You can jump between games and the LiveArea without losing your progress and comment on your buddies' great feats of mobile gaming.
Sony's next PSP, codenamed NGP games and UI
In closing its presentation, Sony trotted out Hideo Kojima to show off a cutscene from MGS 4 rendered in real time on the NGP. It was pulled directly from the PS3 version of the game and ran at 20fps, which looked very smooth indeed to our liveblogging eyes. Videos and Sony's full PR are now available below.
Specs include a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor, 5-inch touchscreen OLED display with 960 x 544 resolution, dual analog sticks (not nubs as on the current generation), 3G, WiFi, GPS, a rear-mounted touchpad, the same accelerometer / gyroscope motion sensing as in the PlayStation Move, an electronic compass, and cameras on both the front and back. Available this holiday season. Wait... what?!
Sony's next PSP, codenamed NGP
Games will come on "new media," not UMD anymore, but we're unclear on what sort of flash memory is being used. Sony's rather proud of the fact it's offering the world's first dual analog stick combo on a portable device, though we're more geeked about the quadrupling of pixel count from the original PSP.
Sony's live event has been graced by demos of some pretty popular games, including Killzone, Resistance, Little Big Planet, and Uncharted -- with the latter serving as a demo platform to show off how the NGP's rear touchpad can be used to more intuitively climb up some vines. That touch panel on the back is the same size and positioned directly under the front OLED touchscreen, which allows for some pretty sophisticated controls when using the two simultaneously.
The new console's UI will be called LiveArea, which has a bunch of vertically navigable home screens and built-in social networking (presumably through PSN). You can jump between games and the LiveArea without losing your progress and comment on your buddies' great feats of mobile gaming.
Sony's next PSP, codenamed NGP games and UI
In closing its presentation, Sony trotted out Hideo Kojima to show off a cutscene from MGS 4 rendered in real time on the NGP. It was pulled directly from the PS3 version of the game and ran at 20fps, which looked very smooth indeed to our liveblogging eyes. Videos and Sony's full PR are now available below.
01-27-2011, 02:26 AM
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01-27-2011, 02:28 AM
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so if the rumors are true about the iPhone using the same GPU and CPU as the PSP2, then come june we should get a hint at what this guy can do.
01-27-2011, 02:33 AM
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:ibyumchaandsomethingsomethingappleipadiphonebashw hatever:
01-27-2011, 11:08 AM
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plus, iphone is all-in-one device.. my guess is that it won't even come near the performance level of PSP2
01-27-2011, 02:09 PM
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Sony's newly-revealed high-spec Next Generation Portable will come with a relatively hefty price tag of "$299 or higher in the U.S.," Lazard Capital analyst Colin Sebastian predicted.
In a research note on Thursday, the analyst cited the handheld's specifications and the "competitive landscape" in the portable gaming market. Sony has yet to confirm a launch date or pricing.
A $299 price point would make the decked-out handheld as expensive as Sony's base 160GB PlayStation 3 high-definition home console, and more expensive than its upcoming portable competitor, Nintendo 3DS, which will sell for $250 in the U.S. when it launches in March.
When Sony's current handheld, the PSP, launched in 2005 in North America, the original price tag was $249. The PSP-3000 today sells for $169, and the digital download-only PSP Go sells for $199.
In a research note on Thursday, the analyst cited the handheld's specifications and the "competitive landscape" in the portable gaming market. Sony has yet to confirm a launch date or pricing.
A $299 price point would make the decked-out handheld as expensive as Sony's base 160GB PlayStation 3 high-definition home console, and more expensive than its upcoming portable competitor, Nintendo 3DS, which will sell for $250 in the U.S. when it launches in March.
When Sony's current handheld, the PSP, launched in 2005 in North America, the original price tag was $249. The PSP-3000 today sells for $169, and the digital download-only PSP Go sells for $199.
01-27-2011, 03:31 PM
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A4 iirc = A8
The next iPhone will be 2 cores and the psp2 will have 4.
At least that's what the rumors say
01-28-2011, 12:32 PM
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Well, if people are willing to pay for $$$$ for a tablet by a fruity company that has less functionality than the rest of the competition...this PSP2 has no problems selling at $300.
That is still less than half of an iPad.
And probably can do more things IMO.
Yes, Apple am the suck. But, we knew I was going to say that...right, Miz?
That is still less than half of an iPad.
And probably can do more things IMO.
Yes, Apple am the suck. But, we knew I was going to say that...right, Miz?
01-28-2011, 12:48 PM
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Well, in the announcement, the exec did say it will be "affordable". Who knows what that means and speculating on it is more a crapshoot.
Let's talk instead of how Apple sucks, yes?
Let's talk instead of how Apple sucks, yes?
01-28-2011, 01:50 PM
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I wonder how sony's going to combat piracy and exploits on this psp...
01-28-2011, 02:32 PM
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How about we talk about how Sony sucks. And robots...
01-28-2011, 02:59 PM
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just look at my ps3's middle finger right now.
its #$$ %ole is red from sony's updates.
first other os, now hard drive upgrades.
SONY WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!!
With the root keys public, and the fact that they are hard coded into the chips, it is next to impossible to patch the ps3 now.
Sony lost...
Within a hour there was CFW for 5.56 on PS3...
its #$$ %ole is red from sony's updates.
first other os, now hard drive upgrades.
SONY WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!!
With the root keys public, and the fact that they are hard coded into the chips, it is next to impossible to patch the ps3 now.
Sony lost...
Within a hour there was CFW for 5.56 on PS3...