poohlikeshunny

...*sob sob*...now I really have to know...and I'm stuck anyway...

blackglass

Are the giant humping zombies kicking your ass?

poohlikeshunny

pretty much..all of a sudden I seem to be having problems with large groups of generic baddies...WTF??? and the double swords aren't cutting it the same way (no pun intended)

blackglass

Try the charged essence attacks. I usually kill the archer and abosrb that orb and kill another zombie, then continue down the line. They move slow enough that you can get away with it.

Or if its the smaller baddies, I usually stick with the flails. Once you get the weapon swinging fast and can continuously pull off the Cremator, its almost like a shield and they can't sneak up and hit you from behind when your beating up on one of them.

Yumcha

Wait! No wimping out with FAQs!!! Where are you...? We can help!

poohlikeshunny

I'm fighting the alternator and he keeps finishing me off with the rush move. This boss fight seems to be easier, but as soon as I get close I get with the rush and it takes off a lot...

Yumcha

Alternator...? Refresh my memory...what stage is this?

poohlikeshunny

after you beat alma, the next stage's boss. The same level where you have to go through the ritual room...

and blackglass, what flails are you talking about? I don't think I have them...

Yumcha

The Vigoorian Flails are the bladed nunchunks I was raving about earlier. Great weapons...!

They are found (if I remember correctly) in the crypts.

Yumcha

BTW...did you get the Windmall Shuriken, PLH...? Those are good secondary weapons.

poohlikeshunny

ah i sees,,,then I do have the nunchakus...windmill shuriken? nope....and is alma rachel????

Yumcha

Good...so, you do have the bladed-chucks then...?

The Windmill Shuriken can be found outside of Han's Bar right after Rachel's stage. And no, Alma <> Rachel...although, they are sisters.

poohlikeshunny

ah..the backtracking in this game...almost as bad as warrioir within..but this game is way better...lol...will the windmill shurikens help with the alternator?

Yumcha

Well, I wouldn't say so...but, the Windmill Shuriken is a great weapon as it is quite strong...I often use it as a final move to accompany my combo...

blackglass

When I fought this guy I just stayed in close and used block/roll a lot. It seemed to keep the chopper at bay somewhat too. Oh and fry him with the Inferno ninpo.

poohlikeshunny

i always forget to use ninpo...gona have to do that when i get home tonight...and yes yummy, i do the same to end my combos...toss a rain of shuriken as i'm about to land or something...hahaha...gotta make Ryu look pimp!

Yumcha

Hrm...Alternator is pretty much Dynamo (the fatso in the blimp) right?

Approach the fight the same way. Combo slices...block when he's about to hit and roll out of the way right after his attack is blocked...?

poohlikeshunny

yeah same dude...although strategy is a little diff...he's a little faster this time..and he didn't do the rush atack before so I am assuming this is new...and it kills me! I'm not verygood at rolling, but looks ike I should master it anyway...after reading both of your advice posts, i'll prolly beat him on the first try tonight and kick myself in the ass...so what is this secret with Alma now? come on...share with the asian brother...

Yumcha

G'luck...!

The thing with Alma is that well, she's not dead. And yeah...you're gonna hafta deal with her again soon.

But, if it makes you feel better, her second time round shouldn't be too hard...unless the Sigma team decided to jack up her AI and difficulty.

poohlikeshunny

I take it you haven't gotten up to her the second time yet? Isn't Sigma supposed to be way harder than black anyway? And as for her being alive...dammit...hahaha...at least there's better bosses along the way....helicopters FTW!

Yumcha

Well, as hard as Alma was...I hate the tank the chopper battles the most. So, go figure.

poohlikeshunny

well at this point, it's hard to find an easy area, so I think they did very well...did you enjoy god of war?

blackglass

So how'd it go? Easy?

How ya likin the tanks

RMATIC09

this game is really far to difficult to enjoy....

Yumcha

Don't give up, dude!

poohlikeshunny

ditto...the sense of accomplishment when you do is priceless!!! and yes blackglass..tanks are a mean sumbitch...

Yumcha

See? Toldja that the tanks suck ballz.

poohlikeshunny

i didn't think i could be juggled by a tank...it was like back in the days of tekken 3...

blackglass

LOL. Actually once you figure out the trick to killing the tanks its pretty easy....I think the helicopter is the biggest PITA.

poohlikeshunny

Oh my god yeah...that helipcopter is ridiculous! although, fighting it is visually very cool! what is the trick with tanks for you? for me I just stay in the air and fire as any shuriken as possible...

uzzmaan

So i started playing this last night. Haven't yet made it through the first chapter b/c I had to wake up early today. It's ridiculously hard, having never played any of the Ninja Gaiden games before.

And I really need to start using different combos. I find myself using the same two or three which gets my ass handed to me pretty quickly

RMATIC09

i cant even beat the 2nd boss , those guys shooting blue fire balls are fucking annoying as hell.

Yumcha

You need to know the flying dashing attack.

And blocking is key.

Yumcha

Using repetitive combos is not necessarily a BAD thing. But, know when to block and roll is more important.

To me, it sounds like you're just button mashing. This game takes an element of thinking...If the enemy blocks your attack. Be ready to block right away and roll out; then retry your combo.

blackglass

Arrows, explosive and with the ASFDS cores. Lots. When the guy is shooting you with the machine gun, use the explosive arrows and he retreats into the tank. Then switch to the ASFDS arrows and you will kill the tank pretty quick. And you can shoot them while jumping now, so its even easier!

Yeah, I agree, especially when they appear out of nowhere. I just hung out near the crumbled doorway and waited for them and the boss to attack. Whenever the boss charged then turned around, I sliced at the horse as much as I could. Then I sat and blocked cause those floating guys would attack, and they were wide open after they got in close for an attack, so I killed them for the blue life orbs.

blackglass

You don't get that until level 2 of the sword, unfortunately...

poohlikeshunny

hahaha...bring it on gamers...this game has whupped everyone at least a few times...blackglass...i was using your tactic there and it was working...just time consuming... uuzman...yeah, this game I have noticed uses a lot of combo variations, but if you really sit down and learn the combos, they are each applicable to different groups of enemies..

uzzmaan

I'm definitely doing a lot of button mashing. Most of my time playing games has been spent on sports and driving games, and while those definitely aren't button mashing games, they don't involve the level of coordination and combos required here. I just have to be patient I guess, cuz so far I really like the game.

Yumcha

And keep at it. This game makes no excuses about easing a person into it. I recall reading awhile ago how the team designers wanted to grab you by the throat and you repeatedly...


...hence my theory that this game is a rite of manhood.

And oh yeah...if you die a few times, it's all good. There's not a single one of the experienced ones who haven't had their @$$es handed to them.

Also...a bit of luck is a good thing.

poohlikeshunny

seriously...i lost count of how many times i died...but it's ok...it makes you come back for more...nowhere else can you get so easily, yet you keep coming back for more..