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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Well............?

It's after 2pm on the East Coast now. Are they going to spill any beans today or what? I've seen one reply post on Cnet that said it was pushed back a week but there was no source cited or links given. None of the tech new sites I visit have anything up and the Origami site still says 3.2.06.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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haha... yeah the news is, it won't run Halo...

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/02/no...softs-origami/
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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There are conflicting reports.. This is from Gameinformer.com:

Microsoft supposedly has very high hopes for the system, even going as far as calling on the portable tablet to "replace the laptop." It is said to be compatible with Windows Vista, but we don't yet know if Origami will actually use it as an operating system or just use its own.

One of the biggest eye catching moments seen in the Origami video was a running version of what appeared to be Halo. We've learned that this isn't just the PC or Xbox disc slid into the back. Origami will apparently run its very own proprietary gaming software, and a Halo port will most likely be one of the first titles released.

Perhaps the most interesting gaming feature, however, is Origami's ability to connect to Xbox 360s. Once connected to a 360, presumably through the USB ports, Origami is expected to function as a second screen for compatible games. One example we heard specifically focused on a game in the Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter vein. While you're TV is displaying the main game, the Origami could show the first person view of another player to help with tactical planning. Or the Origami screen could display an overhead view of the battlefield from a flying probe. Sports games could use it for play calling in football games or the 24 second shot clock in basketball games. And remember, we're talking about a touch screen here, so Origami could function as a controller as well as a dedicated screen. These are just a few of the many possibilities unlocked by such a setup. Let's just hope if this all comes to fruition that Origami's connectivity doesn't crap out like Game Boy Advance's.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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All those cheap ass portable DVD players sold like hotcakes over xmas...
True...only because they have become cheap in cost.
Bottom line is that it is already outdated technology...with the advent of HD and Blu-ray, and the future of on-demand and downloadable content of every movie and album, physical media will be dead soon.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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physical media will be dead soon.
perhaps, perhaps not...people still have something tangible for their money.

We will have to see where it takes us, Idon't disagree with the statment but it could go both ways.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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If MS goes proprietary on this it will be gay.

If its gonna be that big and take full size DVD....make it a portable xbox360...i'll buy one of those.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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I have no idea where Microsoft is going with this...
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
perhaps, perhaps not...people still have something tangible for their money.

We will have to see where it takes us, Idon't disagree with the statment but it could go both ways.
I think the verdict is in. iTunes proved that physical media does not matter.
Music and videos downloaded by the billion.

Mfg's. would like nothing more than to eliminate physical media.
More profit margins.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
If MS goes proprietary on this it will be gay.

If its gonna be that big and take full size DVD....make it a portable xbox360...i'll buy one of those.
Portable 360!!! ...but then again, talk about heat issues
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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I just want the announcement to happen so that I can give you all a big fat



when it's revealed to be nothing more than a small form factor tablet PC for the professional market.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
I just want the announcement to happen so that I can give you all a big fat



when it's revealed to be nothing more than a small form factor tablet PC for the professional market.
I agree that most likely it will be. I don't think they really have any intention on making this a gaming system, but there is rampant debate on this. I think they are looking at it more as a laptop replacement device that can play games in the process like a PC, but it won't be built solely as a gaming device.

I do forsee integration with other MS products like the 360 and Media Center/Vista
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Seriously someone just needs to come up with a portable media played that you can download codecs too and a big hard drive. If windows makes something it will most likely have anti piracy shit on it...BOOO
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JJ4Short
Seriously someone just needs to come up with a portable media played that you can download codecs too and a big hard drive. If windows makes something it will most likely have anti piracy shit on it...BOOO
That's the exact reason that no one has made it. The movie studios have sued Samsung for even having the capability of disabling HDCP encryption on th their DVD players. They would have a legal field day with the kind of gadget you're thinking of JJ.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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and who was right?

that would be me: http://gear.ign.com/articles/693/693235p1.html
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Intel wants us connected everywhere we go

Intel today announced what it calls the Ultra Mobile PC (UMPC) platform. With this platform, Intel aims to bring small, thin, light and low-power devices that can keep you connected from anywhere. Intel is hoping that the UMPC platform will allow you to:

* ACCESS content and information virtually anytime, anywhere
* COMMUNICATE via email, IM, chat, or blogging
* ENTERTAIN themselves with videos, games, music, pictures or TV on the go
* BE PRODUCTIVE by monitoring office apps and tools

The devices will feature wireless connectivity, GPS support, full VoIP support and full PC compatibility. Intel states that more information will be available on the 9th – Microsoft states that it will release details of its Origami project on the 9th. Coincidence? I think not.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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and so it is THE 9TH!!!!
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Microsoft Origami, a mini laptop, unveiled
Tablet PC mates a full sized hard drive with a handheld organizer, MP3 player, GPS navigation, game player, camera and TV on a 7-inch screen.
March 9, 2006: 8:33 AM EST




SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. unveiled its 'Origami' project Thursday, a paperback-book sized portable computer, which is a hybrid between a laptop PC and a host of mobile devices that the world's biggest software maker hopes will create an entirely new market.

Lighter than two pounds with a seven-inch touch-screen, the new "ultra-mobile" PCs (UMPCs) use microprocessors from Intel Corp. (Research) and run a modified version of Microsoft's Windows XP Tablet PC edition.


Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Taiwan's Asustek Computer Inc. and China's second largest PC-maker, the Founder Group, are expected to release the first three ultra-mobile PCs, which Microsoft (Research) had code-named "Origami" in an elaborate marketing campaign.

South Korea's Samsung's product goes on sale in April.

"This is a single ultra-mobile computer that combines the functionality of many different products," David Steel, the vice president for marketing at Samsung's digital media group, said at the CeBIT technology trade show in Hanover, Germany.

Samsung positions the UMPC as a handheld organizer, an MP3 portable music player, a mobile television receiver, a games device and a notebook PC and believes it will be more successful than the full-sized tablet notebook PC with touch screen, launched four years ago.

"We really believe the difference is now the connectivity. the tablet PC had a certain form factor, but it did not really offer the mobility the new product can do. And along with mobility there is (now) connectivity," Steel said.

The new machines will connect wirelessly to the Internet and carry full-sized hard drives, but they are not intended to replace current PCs.

Microsoft's track record in promoting an alternative PC has produced mixed results. The tablet PC has not yet gained broad appeal despite strong backing from founder Bill Gates.

No U.S. name brand PC makers have signed on to make the new devices, which will have battery life of about three hours, but Microsoft predicted a bright future for the devices.

Beginning of a new product range
"We believe that (ultra-mobile PCs) will eventually become as indispensable and ubiquitous as the mobile phone today," Microsoft vice president Bill Mitchell said at CeBIT.

"The Origami project is really our first step toward achieving a big vision," he added.

Intel's European marketing chief Christian Morales said at CeBIT his company and Microsoft were creating a new "category."

Microsoft said it has already held discussions with a number of additional PC and consumer electronics companies to broaden the number of manufacturers.

The new PCs are expected to sell for between $599 to $999, but Microsoft said it is possible to sell one for $500 if the manufacturer selects components carefully.

Microsoft sparked a frenzy by creating a Web site to tout "Origami" with cryptic messages like "do you know me?" and "do you know what I can do?"

This fueled industry speculation that "Origami" would challenge Apple Computer Inc.'s (Research) iPod digital music player or Sony Corp. (Research) PlayStation Portable.

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While the product does not compete directly with those popular devices, Microsoft aims to lure gadget fans with ultra-mobile PC models that include features such as global positioning systems for car navigation, digital TV tuners or Web cameras.

"People expect an increasing amount of functionality when they are on the go," said Otto Berkes, general manager at Microsoft's Mobile Platforms Division.

The company acknowledged that battery life is one hurdle for the ultra-mobile PC. Microsoft said it aims to eventually have "all-day" battery life.

"This is the start of a category and there are a number of areas that will require additional investment -- both hardware and software -- to realize the full potential of the category," said Berkes.

Microsoft said future models will run on Windows Vista, the next-generation of its flagship operating system due out in the second-half of 2006.

Tablet PCs, which allows people to use a stylus or digital pen to jot down information instead of typing on a keyboard, have been largely geared toward business users since its introduction in 2002, but the new "ultra-mobile" PC category appears to move the tablet technology into the consumer realm.

This segment of the PC market is not altogether new. Japan's Fujitsu Ltd. and San Francisco-based OQO Inc. already offer a small, portable tablet PC designed for business users.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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My thoughts so far this morning...

What do I need this for? What's it going to do for me?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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My thoughts so far - this would be sweet to have. Portable navigation with a large 7" screen - will be great if done right. I'm tired of Magellan and those other portable 3" navi's. Suck. Sure it's nice to have built-in Navi on your car, but its also nice to have a portable unit. Can you imagine if this has like 250GB of storage or something crazy - that should be very possible, since it has a full-size hard-drive - hell let's do a 500GB, lol. Carry ALL your music, pictures, whatever with you ANYWHERE you go.

I think this does have the potential to blow up into a huge market. It is a new niche - iPods and PSP's are great but no touch screens, and smaller screens - this will be hot because its relatively portable - might need something like a backpack though. The big HD and Windows will allow for crazy customizability - without the need to hack any OS's and all that drivel. I am looking forward to this.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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I think it's cool, but I want more info on the specs.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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More info and specs....

Microsoft Unveils Ultracompact Computer
Mar 9, 3:10 AM (ET)

By MATT MOORE

HANOVER, Germany (AP) - After months of cryptic Web marketing and word-of-mouth hype over Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Project Origami, the company finally showed off the product: an ultracompact computer running Windows XP with a touchscreen and wireless connectivity.

It's everything a full computer or laptop is, minus the keyboard. It has a 7-inch touch-sensitive screen that responds to a stylus or the tap of a finger.

Two models from different manufacturers are expected to hit stores shelves by spring, and Microsoft says they'll be about an inch thick and weigh less than 2 1/2 pounds - about the size of a large paperback book.

It will run on a full version of Windows XP, the same operating system used on larger tablet PCs, and newly developed software called Windows Touch Pack will handle touch-screen functions. Future editions will support Windows Vista, a version of Microsoft's flagship operating system that's due out in the second half of this year.

"It really opens up new possibilities for PC use," Bill Mitchell, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Mobile Platforms Division, said Wednesday.

The device will be officially unveiled Thursday at CeBIT, the annual technology trade show in Hanover.

It won't be called Origami. Instead, the company is marketing it as a category it's calling the ultramobile PC, said Mika Krammer, a marketing director for Microsoft's Windows mobile unit.

Though Microsoft is not manufacturing the hardware, it took a guiding role from the start.

"We've done more than just provide the software. We've built the reference designs to sort of get the category started," he said. "We had the first prototypes about nine months ago and started working with partners early on."

One of those partners is Intel Corp. (INTC), which makes the Celeron M microprocessor that runs the device. Three companies have built working models - Samsung, Asus and the Chinese manufacturer Founder.

The Samsung and Asus devices are expected to be in stores by April, and the Founder device in June, Krammer said.

"A lot of the early engagement we have had has been with nontraditional PC vendors, although there is a lot of interest from traditional PC vendors as well," Mitchell said. "It ideally brings the best of what a Windows PC is and marries it to what the best of a very capable consumer electronic device is."

That, said David Bradshaw, a principle analyst with London-based Ovum, is key.

"I really would hope that it would be something that works," he said, adding that he had not seen one of the models. "Something that is wirelessly connected. Hopefully it will have a wide range of wireless options so that you would be able to use Wi-Fi when available or a (wirelesss) carrier's network if you can afford to pay through the nose."

Krammer said device is expected to retail for between $600 and $1,000.

Origami, Mitchell said, sporting Bluetooth and Wi-Fi wireless access. At CeBIT, he said they were using their models by connecting their cell phones to it via BlueTooth.

The screen is wide, bright and easy to see, even in low light. Mitchell showed a music video on one model and a film on the other. It doesn't have its own keyboard, but since the units are designed with USB 2 ports, one could be plugged in as needed.

Other units shown to The Associatied Press had SecureDigital Card and CompactFlash memory card slots, along with jacks for connecting digital cameras, headphones and speakers.

For users who don't want to jot down notes with the stylus, the Origami has a built-in program called Dial Keys that splits a standard QWERTY keyboard into pie shapes on the lower corners of the screen so that input can typed - or thumbed in.

The battery power averages about 2.5 to three hours, and it will have up to a 60-gigabyte hard drive.

Mitchell said the device is aimed at consumers who want to have the full power of a PC while on the go but don't want to lug around a heavy laptop or desktop PC.

"We think that for most people, this is more of a replacement for the classic consumer electronic devices that they're buying with disposable income," he said.

While it's not compact like an iPod, it does play music, store and display photos like a digital picture frame, and show films and TV shows. For someone sitting on a plane, some models have a stand in back to prop up the device for easier viewing.

Bradshaw said if the screen's size appeals to consumers, it could be an impetus for wireless carriers to offer more video-on-demand.

"It may be the dream device for all these mobile operators that actually want people to watch video over their networks," he said.

Michael Gartenberg, an analyst in Jupiter Research's New York office, said he thinks the device has potential.

"The whole Origami concept may very well change what devices people are going to carry with them," Gartenberg said. "It's not a pocketable device, but it's certainly small enough to be kept close at hand, and the fact that it runs Windows means that it can do a variety of tasks, from productivity to games to media consumption."
60gb HD is waaaaay to small for a device of this size.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Nice, I can't wait for it to crash in the middle of a game.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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so lame. why the F would you use a full-size HD and limit it to 60gb.. lame lame lame!!!! maybe they just know ppl will swap whatever they put in with a bigger one, regardless of size
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Nice, I can't wait for it to crash in the middle of a game.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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"Microsoft says they'll be about an inch thick and weigh less than 2 1/2 pounds - about the size of a large paperback book."

no way you have a full size hard drive in there...and 60gigs isnt chump change, thats still a lot of data
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by slayer202
"Microsoft says they'll be about an inch thick and weigh less than 2 1/2 pounds - about the size of a large paperback book."

no way you have a full size hard drive in there...and 60gigs isnt chump change, thats still a lot of data
True, but with an inch of room they should be able to provide more storage...apple can do 60 gb with less room
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/umpc/default.mspx

nice link, you can click on the screen and see how the menus look:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/umpc/howitworks.mspx
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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oh yea it looks like when they said "full-size" hard drive, they didn't mean as in, physically, but space-wise.

so yea I don't think we'll be seeing 500gb in these things anytime soon, lol..

srry but in this day and age, 60gb is far from "full-size"...
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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hmm.. thinking about it more, it is rather large, I kinda don't see myself carrying something like this around, like on a daily basis...

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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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This version looks a little more practical....just give me the screen, and get rid of the sides.
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looks kinda cool. maybe it will replace my laptop
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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I could potentially use it for DJing... pretty cool
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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The version with only the screen looks cool.

anyway, to shed a little hope, here is another (VERY related) microsoft project:

http://games.slashdot.org/games/06/03/20/1223233.shtml

""According to The Mercury News Microsoft is developing a PSP/DS/GBA/iPod-killer. J. Allard is leading the project." J. Allard is the man behind the Xbox, and from looking at the article it sounds like it's at least a year before this device, if it hits daylight, would be coming.
Microsoft To Construct iPod/DS/PSP Killer"
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Old May 2, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Origami review.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1955884,00.asp

The Verdict:
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looked promising...
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Originally Posted by stangg172004
looked promising...
it did... and I was surprised to read this review. I think a part of the reason it falls short is, the surplus of large-storage portable media players available today, the best of which are available for less than half the cost. Ultimately the UMPC can do a lot more because it has full-blown XP loaded, but that could also be bad - you already have a computer at home that you have to keep up with maintenance-wise, do you want to have to troubleshoot and maintain your portable media player too? I think for most ppl the answer will be .
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