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Old 06-06-2005, 12:21 PM
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Interesting choice with the Viper. Was it an oversteering bear?

How is the Bentley? I haven't had time to get it yet.
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damn, I haven't even tried the SRT-10...

don't even own one.
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What? There are Vipers in the game?
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As far as domestics go, the Z06 was very nice. With a Stage 3 NA it had a very nice torque curve and just went at any speed. The Vette races are too easy since they use a C2, C3, and C4 that are no match. I used a Vette with like exhaust and chip since it was getting boring. I wish they had more one make races with the domestics instead of some of the Euro cars.
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The SRT-10 was a hell of a lot better than the TVR ( ). Brakes weren't the greatest, and there was actually understeer b/c I would hit the brakes too late in the corners. Took some getting used to. The races were actually very close due to the quality of cars in there.

I haven't gotten to try the Bentley yet. I am going to do the Sarthe I 24h race (Audi R8) first so I don't have to do enduros anymore!

One thing I did notice though - I can't beat the German Touring Championship anymore with my CLK Touring car! Like, it's not even close. I don't know what happened, but the quality level of the cars in there after I beat it is ridiculous.

I'm 530 days into the game with only 6,000,000 credits, so I need to win the CLK-GTR and sell it a few times...
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Originally Posted by Doom878
I wish they had more one make races with the domestics instead of some of the Euro cars.


Some of the single make Euro races are stupid. I'd rather have a few good Dodge/Ford races instead.
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Originally Posted by mc_yanzo
The SRT-10 was a hell of a lot better than the TVR ( ). Brakes weren't the greatest, and there was actually understeer b/c I would hit the brakes too late in the corners. Took some getting used to. The races were actually very close due to the quality of cars in there.

I haven't gotten to try the Bentley yet. I am going to do the Sarthe I 24h race (Audi R8) first so I don't have to do enduros anymore!

One thing I did notice though - I can't beat the German Touring Championship anymore with my CLK Touring car! Like, it's not even close. I don't know what happened, but the quality level of the cars in there after I beat it is ridiculous.

I'm 530 days into the game with only 6,000,000 credits, so I need to win the CLK-GTR and sell it a few times...
h8... maybe we need to run the SRT-10 for the next time trial....
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You pick it since I can't win any.

If you have a fully modded CLK-DTM you should be able to win those B-Spec. Maybe you changed a setting?
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Yeah I might have. I'll check it out tonight.
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It was the tires. I had medium sports on instead of medium racers. HUGE difference.
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Originally Posted by mc_yanzo
It was the tires. I had medium sports on instead of medium racers. HUGE difference.
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beautiful Nurburgring video. the song in this video is amazing - Feeder - Broken (Junkie XL Mix)

rightclick save as 12mb
http://static.8200rpm.com/Video_Sect...03_512kbit.wmv

if you want higher res version here it is, 168mb
http://static.8200rpm.com/Video_Sect...sion_2003.mpeg

tons more videos here:
http://www.8200rpm.com/index.php?p=1&t=3&lang=nl

ps. this is real-life footage. Not directly related to GT4, but still.

umm... more Nurburgring videos here:
http://maddock.uzipp.com/ns/vids/
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I still don't understand why they had the credits/video after the GT Championship...
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They did that in GT3 also. Just ignore and continue.
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http://static.8200rpm.com/stuffvids/..._zandvoort.wmv


coolest vid.....

gave me chills.....especially after the ben keaton thing.

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Originally Posted by Zapata
http://static.8200rpm.com/stuffvids/..._zandvoort.wmv


coolest vid.....

gave me chills.....especially after the ben keaton thing.
yeah the music was very emotional and I also felt chills....

speaking of which... have you all seen this thread at Ferrari Chat? check for ben, lj's posts throughout the thread... note the dates... this is sooo freaky... and I am still thinking about him.

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthr...5&page=1&pp=20
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No more endurance races for me! Time to work on the Extreme Hall.
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Time for F1 races. Get a book.
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24 Hours of Le Mans 2005 - 1st Test Day times... thought you might like to see some real life times

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...54#post4172154
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The only car we have close to is the C6R where we have only the C5R. I don't think I could even break 5 mins with that car.

O'Connell-Fellows-Papis, Chevrolet Corvette C6R, 3:56.174
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Originally Posted by Doom878
The only car we have close to is the C6R where we have only the C5R. I don't think I could even break 5 mins with that car.

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true I was thinking C5R... maybe I should have posted this in one of the Forza threads...

Surprising that the F575 is slower than the 550... I would think driver factors are coming into play there... but not sure.
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Tuning differences on the Ferraris probably.
Old 06-09-2005, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Tuning differences on the Ferraris probably.
read 2nd paragraph.

http://www.lemans.org/24heuresduman...05_com2_gb.html

LM-GT1. The Aston Martins were here to prove a point and straight away they began putting in fast times, never losing their 1st and 2nd position in class throughout the session. The two DBR9 cars swapped positions from the first session, with the No.58 Kox/Lame/Enge car finishing ahead of the No.59 Brabham/Turner/Sarrazin car. The No.63 (Fellows/O’Connell/Papis) and No.64 (Gavin/Beretta/Magnussen) Corvette C6-Rs appeared to be working to a totally different agenda, concentrating on a race set-up.

Possibly, the surprise of the day in the GT1 class was the No.61 Cirtek Ferrari 550 Maranello of Bouchut/Fomenko/Vasiliev. They were only 3 secs off the pace of the Aston Martins. The two Astons did 78 and 77 laps respectively until 17:40 hrs, when it started raining. The Ferrari covered 53 laps and the faster of the two Corvettes, No. 64, driven by Beretta, Gavin, and Magnussen, 85.
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What about it?
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Even though I don't own the game, I gotta think you'd do way better than 5 minutes with the C5R in GT4. FWIW, I just grabbed the current Le Mans layout for GTR and took the C5R out for one flying lap. Ended up with a 4:04.9. Considering I don't remeber the intimate details of the track too well any more and that I was using a quick hatchet job of a Monza setup, I think I could be approaching the "realm of the realistic." It is possible in gameland gang.
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Wait a minute. Isn't Le Mans the track at Sarthe? If that's the case then I'm getting them confused with Nurburgring. I can hit 3 mins easy in Sarthe.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Wait a minute. Isn't Le Mans the track at Sarthe? If that's the case then I'm getting them confused with Nurburgring. I can hit 3 mins easy in Sarthe.
Le Mans = Sarthe

3 mins in what car??
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Originally Posted by srika
Le Mans = Sarthe

3 mins in what car??
He means C5R I think.

I will give it a try in GT4 tomorrow.
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No I did it in the F1.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
No I did it in the F1.
you foo...... we are talking about ALMS type cars here such as C5R.... not F1....

I was afraid of this MSZ.....
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Well I did say I did it in 3 mins. It was like 3:16 or something. I'm pretty sure I can get close to that with the Sauber.
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Use a GT1 class car if you want to compare to those times - the C5R being about your only choice. If you want to look up some times of the new Courage and compare it to the Pescarolo or the R8 or Bentley or Sauber that'd be cool too. I've been meaning to do this soon.

Don't forget to use the Sarthe track that has the chicanes!
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Originally Posted by Kighter
Use a GT1 class car if you want to compare to those times - the C5R being about your only choice. If you want to look up some times of the new Courage and compare it to the Pescarolo or the R8 or Bentley or Sauber that'd be cool too. I've been meaning to do this soon.

Don't forget to use the Sarthe track that has the chicanes!
no doubt..... good point about the Chicanes.... the Sauber is definitely not comparable... or the 787B, or XJR9, GT-One, etc. etc.
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Yeah I'll try the C5R. And I did do the chicaned one.
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C5R at Sarthe I(R3 tires, no driving aids)

3'45.855

Is my lap time realistic?
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Originally Posted by Doom878
What about it?
they were surprised about the 550's performance too.
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Originally Posted by MSZ
C5R at Sarthe I(R3 tires, no driving aids)

3'45.855

Is my lap time realistic?
Not really. 3'45 is a top running LMP2 time these days - but it's in the ballpark. The fastest GT1 cars thus far are the Aston Martins at 3'50.

Here are the times from the practice session (sorry this is messy - I'm not about to clean it up by hand):
P No Cl Entrant Pilote Nat Veh Ses.1 L. Meilleur Ecart Km/h
1 16 LM1 Pescarolo Sport COLLARD E/BOULLION JC/COMAS E F/F/F Pescarolo Judd 3:32.468 87 3:32.468 231 282
2 17 LM1 Pescarolo Sport LOEB S*/HELARY E/AYARI S F/F/F Pescarolo Judd 3:35.893 96 3:35.893 0:03.425 227 613
3 13 LM1 Courage Competition COCHET J/NAKANO S*/JOUANNY B* F/J/F Courage Judd 3:37.674 61 3:37.674 0:05.206 225 750
4 3 LM1 Champion Racing LEHTO JJ/WERNER MS F/D Audi R8 3:38.719 76 3:38.719 0:06.251 224 672
5 5 LM1 Jim Gainer International MICHIGAMI R/ARA S/KANEISHI K J/J/J Dome Mugen 3:38.875 37 3:38.875 0:06.407 224 512
6 18 LM1 Rollcentre Racing SHORT M/BARBOSA J/ICKX V GB/P/B Dallara Judd 3:38.976 82 3:38.976 0:06.508 224 408
7 4 LM1 Audi Playstation Oreca MONTAGNY F/GOUNON JM/ORTELLI S F/F/MC Audi R8 3:39.060 87 3:39.060 0:06.592 224 322
8 2 LM1 Champion Racing BIELA F/PIRRO E D/I Audi R8 3:39.418 61 3:39.418 0:06.950 223 956
9 7 LM1 Creation Autosportif MINASSIAN N/CAMPBELL WALTE/WALLACE A F/GB/GB DBA Judd 3:39.568 67 3:39.568 0:07.100 223 803
10 12 LM1 Courage Competition SCHWAGER D*/FREI A/VANN C J/CH/GB Courage Judd 3:39.633 70 3:39.633 0:07.165 223 737
11 10 LM1 Racing For Holland LAMMERS J/JULIAN E*/BOSCH J NL/USA/NL Dome Judd 3:41.507 89 3:41.507 0:09.039 221 844
12 9 LM1 Team Jota – Zytek HIGNETT S*/STACK J*/KUROSAWA H GB/GB/J Zytek 04S 3:42.739 55 3:42.739 0:10.271 220 617
13 32 LM2 Intersport Racing FISKEN G/HALLIDAY E*/HANCOK S GB/USA/GB Lola AER 3:44.426 72 3:44.426 0:11.958 218 959
14 25 LM2 RML ERDOS T/NEWTON M/HUGHES W GB/GB/GB Lola MG 3:44.614 67 3:44.614 0:12.146 218 775
15 30 LM2 Kruse Motorsport BENNETT P*/MITCHELL I*/MULLEN T* GB/GB/GB Courage Judd 3:45.844 60 3:45.844 0:13.376 217 584
16 37 LM2 Paul Belmondo Racing BELMONDO P/ANDRE D/SUTHERLAND R F/F/USA Courage C65 For 3:46.522 51 3:46.522 0:14.054 216 933
17 39 LM2 Chamberlain Synergy Motor EVANS R/BERRIDGE R/OWEN P* GB/GB/GB Lola AER 3:47.586 64 3:47.586 0:15.118 215 918
18 8 LM1 Rollcentre Racing VERDOEN ROE RG*/KRUMM M/PRIMAT H* GB/GB/CH Dallara Nissan 3:49.826 38 3:49.826 0:17.358 213 814
19 58 GT1 Aston Martin Racing ENGE T/KOX P/LAMY P CZ/NL/P Aston Martin DBR9 3:50.033 87 3:50.033 0:17.565 213 622
20 59 GT1 Aston Martin Racing BRABHAM D/SARRAZIN S/TURNER DA US/F/GB Aston Martin DBR9 3:50.539 87 3:50.539 0:18.071 213 153
21 34 LM2 Miracle Motorsports MACALUSO J*/JAMES I*/LALLY A* USA/GB/USA Courage AER 3:50.947 51 3:50.947 0:18.479 212 776
22 45 LM2 Lucchini Engineering PERONI P-G*/FRANCIONI F*/SAVOLDI M* I/I/I Lucchini Judd 3:51.350 36 3:51.350 0:18.882 212 405
23 61 GT1 Cirtek Motorsport FOMENKO N/VASILIEV A/BOUCHUT CH RUS/RUS/F Ferrari 550Maranello 3:53.635 54 3:53.635 0:21.167 210 328
24 36 LM2 Paul Belmondo Racing GOSSELIN CY/OJJEH K*/SHARPE A F/UAE/GB Courage C65 Ford 3:53.655 41 3:53.655 0:21.187 210 310
25 33 LM2 Intersport Racing ZLOBIN S*/MIGAULT F/BARAZI J* RUS/SEN/GB Courage Judd 3:53.735 41 3:53.735 0:21.267 210 238
26 64 GT1 Corvette Racing GAVIN O/BERETTA O/MAGNUSSEN J GB/MC/DK Corvette C6-R 3:54.183 90 3:54.183 0:21.715 209 836
27 50 GT1 Larbre Competition GOUESLARD P/DUPARD O/VOSSE V F/F/B Ferrari 550Maranello 3:55.340 67 3:55.340 0:22.872 208 804
28 31 LM2 Del Bello Noel AMORIN N/IANNETTA R*/PILLON C HP/F/CH Courage – CG 3:56.044 37 3:56.044 0:23.576 208 182
29 63 GT1 Corvette Racing FELLOWS R/O'CONNEL J/PAPIS M CND/USA/I Corvette C6-R 3:56.174 92 3:56.174 0:23.706 208 067
30 24 LM2 Rachel Welter TERADA Y/ROUSSEL P/BINNIE W J/F/GB WR Peugeot 3:57.780 40 3:57.780 0:25.312 206 662
31 51 GT1 BMS Scuderia Italia GOLLIN F*/PESCATORI C./RAMOS M I/I/P Ferrari 550Maranello 3:58.199 83 3:58.199 0:25.731 206 298
32 52 GT1 BMS Scuderia Italia BARTYAN M*/MALUCELLI M*/SEILER T I/I/CH Ferrari 550Maranello 3:58.428 63 3:58.428 0:25.960 206 100
33 35 LM2 G-Force Racing HILLEBRAND V/HAHN F*/LEROCH J-F* B/B/F Courage C65 Judd 4:03.301 18 4:03.301 0:30.833 201 972
34 20 LM2 Bruneau Pierre ROSTAN M/HAEZEBROUCK P/BRUNEAU P* F/F/F Pilbeam JPX 4:03.688 32 4:03.688 0:31.220 201 651
35 69 GT1 JMB Racing de FOURNOUX JR/DAOUDI S F/F Ferrari 575 GTC 4:04.435 17 4:04.435 0:31.967 201 035
36 90 GT2 White Lightning Racing PETERSEN M*/LONG P/BERNHARD T USA/USA/USA Porsche 911 GT3 RSR 4:04.915 65 4:04.915 0:32.447 200 641
37 77 GT2 Panoz Motor Sports AUBERLEN B/LIDDELL R/MAXWELL SC USA/GB/CND Panoz Elan 4:05.059 53 4:05.059 0:32.591 200 523
38 76 GT2 Raymon Narrac DUMAS R/DUMEZ S*/NARAC R* F/F/F Porsche 911 GT3 RSR 4:05.367 55 4:05.367 0:32.899 200 271
39 71 GT2 Alex Job Racing HINDERY L/ROCKENFELLER M/LIEB M USA/D/D Porsche 911 GT3 RSR 4:06.464 66 4:06.464 0:33.996 199 380
40 80 GT2 Flying Lizard Motorsports VAN OVERBEEK J*/PECHNIK L*/NEIMAN S* USA/USA/USA Porsche 911 GT3 RSR 4:08.406 81 4:08.406 0:35.938 197 821
41 23 LM2 Gerard Welter BOUVET JB/BOULAY S/JULIEN R* F/F/CND WR 4:08.550 26 4:08.550 0:36.082 197 707
42 93 GT2 Scuderia Ecosse KINCH N*/KIRKALDY A*/REID A GB/GB/GB Ferrari 360 Modena 4:10.180 49 4:10.180 0:37.712 196 419
43 72 GT2 Luc Alphand Aventures POLICAND J/CAMPBELL CH*/ALPHAND L F/F/F Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4:12.274 77 4:12.274 0:39.806 194 788
44 85 GT2 Spyker Squadron CORONEL T/CREVELS D*/VAN MERKESTEIJN P NL/NL/NL Spyker C8 Spyder GT 4:13.263 25 4:13.263 0:40.795 194 028
45 78 GT2 Panoz Motor Sports SELLERS B*/FRANCHITTI M*/BOURDAIS P USA/USA/F Panoz Elan 4:13.734 46 4:13.734 0:41.266 193 667
46 91 GT2 T2M Motorsport POMPIDOU X*/BLANCHEMAIN JL/YAMAGISHI Y* F/F/J Porsche 996 GT3 RS 4:14.988 61 4:14.988 0:42.520 192 715
47 89 GT2 Sebah Automotive NIELSEN L E/THYRRING T*/EHRET P* DK/DK/D Porsche 996 GT3 RSR 4:16.032 70 4:16.032 0:43.564 191 929
48 92 GT2 Cirtek Motorsport MACARI J*/ERICSSON S*/WILSON R GB/SW/GB Ferrari 360 Modena 4:16.687 54 4:16.687 0:44.219 191 439
49 83 GT2 Seikel Motorsport COLLIN P/FELBERMAYR H*/SHEP D USA/A/CND Porsche 996 GT3 RSR 4:20.543 79 4:20.543 0:48.075 188 606
50 95 GT2 RaceSport Peninsula TVR HARTSHORNE J*/STANTON R/JOHNSON P* GB/GB/GB TVR Tuscan T400R 4:25.304 67 4:25.304 0:52.836 185 221
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ehh... so it's a few seconds off...

wait MSZ.. did you use NAWS??? lol
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Originally Posted by srika
ehh... so it's a few seconds off...

wait MSZ.. did you use NAWS??? lol
Nope, never used it on any car.
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Originally Posted by MSZ
Nope, never used it on any car.
was joking.


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