My CL TypeS

This is me on the right...vs. The Azine Lurker

http://www.youtube.com/?v=0GyYvRv_ih8

CL Platano

Damn you murdered AJ...

blk2001tlon19s

so what are the mods on each?

My CL TypeS

Both are stock!!!

For now!!

blk2001tlon19s

kool

Corrosion

So the 6 speed lost?

blk2001tlon19s

looking at the video, i believe the 6 speed won.

MarbleGT

the loser has foglights

subbuzz

foglights don't make hp!

MarbleGT

foglights=not 03 6spd

CL Platano

AJ will eventually learn hopefully no matter if he put the brakes on or not he can't keep up with the 6 spd..

My CL TypeS

I agree

blueglows

you have to know how to shift in order to win when it is cls vs cls manua and bot are stock... the cls manual has to be launched perfectly and get every shift perfectly to truly beat a cls auto... otherwise they will lose or just be tied....

My CL TypeS

Of course u have to now how to shift!!

I caught every gear smoothly and perfectly..

goredcar

The launch is the trickiest... it is really easy to just sit there and burn rubber with a 6MT. But, if you hook up well, it is no contest against an auto. The rule of thumb is that an auto with headers is bout the same as a stock 6MT.

Sun Diego CL-S

that's the first time i've seen someone say this but i have always thought about this and wondered if it were true. i see what you mean. but then i would like to see this confirmed time and again. have you seen threads with this or with videos?

goredcar

I can neither take credit or blame for this comparison... it is a common comparison used in other threads. There are significant drivetrain losses in the auto. I used to have an 01 CLS 5AT with I/H/E. I then drove a stock 6MT and I actually thought that the stock 6 speed felt quicker than my modded auto.

Comptech rates their S/C as +34-40HP with the auto and +54-57HP with the 6MT. Same S/C... I was also snooping around on their site and looking at various dyno charts... and at 6K rpm a stock 5AT makes 208HP, while a stock 6MT makes 220HP.

In race conditions the 6 speeds will sometimes not do as well as they should because good launches are very tricky. In the excitement of the moment if you drop the clutch and hit the gas hard, you will break the tires loose and just spin... while the auto leaves you in the dust (with your wheel hop).