Will I give a M3/S4 a good run?
all i gotta say is whoever wanna race my GIRLS S4 vs there charged cl-s bring it on...i've raced her (but i don't have a charger..) and lost like crazy! her car is FAST..a good race would be her S4 vs my 300zxTT...thats yet to happen though
teh Senior Instigator
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Originally posted by pimpscls
wow these new noobs lately are really bitchy and got attitudes, i say we regulate on sum of these noobies
wow these new noobs lately are really bitchy and got attitudes, i say we regulate on sum of these noobies
Originally posted by AkuraCLS
all i gotta say is whoever wanna race my GIRLS S4 vs there charged cl-s bring it on...i've raced her (but i don't have a charger..) and lost like crazy! her car is FAST..a good race would be her S4 vs my 300zxTT...thats yet to happen though
all i gotta say is whoever wanna race my GIRLS S4 vs there charged cl-s bring it on...i've raced her (but i don't have a charger..) and lost like crazy! her car is FAST..a good race would be her S4 vs my 300zxTT...thats yet to happen though
teh Senior Instigator
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From: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Originally posted by AkuraCLS
lol
well maybe she doesn't just have a s4..maybe it's a RS4, and i forgot to mention it
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lol
well maybe she doesn't just have a s4..maybe it's a RS4, and i forgot to mention it
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Edit:
That'd be a real good race, you should put a grand on your girls car.
Originally posted by types1967
someone ban this idiot i dont want him on the board so get rid of him now!!!!
some stupid kid talking crap as always so ban him and be done with him
someone ban this idiot i dont want him on the board so get rid of him now!!!!
some stupid kid talking crap as always so ban him and be done with him
he should be banned just because he does not agree wtith you?
Originally posted by types1967
no i just think that rippin on scalbert is unacceptable.these noobs need to learn who knows what about cars
no i just think that rippin on scalbert is unacceptable.these noobs need to learn who knows what about cars
:noob:
Post pics of your car and your girl akuracls...
Originally posted by kevin79925
Originally posted by TypeSKid
no way in hell you can keep us with EITHER an E46 or an S4.
Most older S4's are modded,
Newer one's are V8 runnin' 13's, low 13's...
no way in hell you can keep us with EITHER an E46 or an S4.
Most older S4's are modded,
Newer one's are V8 runnin' 13's, low 13's...
Obtained from C&D May, 2003
0-60: 4.8 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 105
Car-Stats.com Report for 2002 BMW M3
Obtained from MT January, 2002
0-60: 4.7 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 13.2
1/4 Speed: 107
Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Audi S4 Quattro
Obtained from C&D May, 2003
0-60: 5 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 103
Car-Stats.com Report for 2001 Audi S4 Quattro
Obtained from C&D October, 2001
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.2
1/4 Speed: 97
According to these stats, a blown CL-S should be able to at least hang with the older model S4 (stock, of course). This is all in a straight line though.
I wonder why there is such a difference between MT and C&D stats?
Originally posted by pjonkheer
Not a chance in hell. Get yourself a RWD car if you want all that power. Trust me, I learned my lesson in a FWD 2K3 Maxima.
Not a chance in hell. Get yourself a RWD car if you want all that power. Trust me, I learned my lesson in a FWD 2K3 Maxima.
Just because a car is FWD doesn't mean it can't make power. It will be harder to launch, but from a roll he will do well against the Audi. Might even surprise the M3. allmotor_2000 beat a M3 vert and he wasn't running his turbo set up. Just Intake/Headers and some custom port and polish work.
Originally posted by pjonkheer
Not a chance in hell. Get yourself a RWD car if you want all that power. Trust me, I learned my lesson in a FWD 2K3 Maxima.
Not a chance in hell. Get yourself a RWD car if you want all that power. Trust me, I learned my lesson in a FWD 2K3 Maxima.
Originally posted by mrsteve
:noob:
Just because a car is FWD doesn't mean it can't make power. It will be harder to launch, but from a roll he will do well against the Audi. Might even surprise the M3. allmotor_2000 beat a M3 vert and he wasn't running his turbo set up. Just Intake/Headers and some custom port and polish work.
:noob:
Just because a car is FWD doesn't mean it can't make power. It will be harder to launch, but from a roll he will do well against the Audi. Might even surprise the M3. allmotor_2000 beat a M3 vert and he wasn't running his turbo set up. Just Intake/Headers and some custom port and polish work.
Don't get me wrong, I still love the CL/TL. Just not for adding serious amounts of HP.
Originally posted by Seattle Cl-S
I will, I will. I just want this car to last me another 2 years or so. My wife is overdue for a new car so I can't change quite yet. I might as well have fun with the CL until I move on to a RWD/AWD monster. Besides, I think it is important to "baby-step" your way into more powerful cars. Mistakes in a powerful machine become very dangerous and expensive.
I will, I will. I just want this car to last me another 2 years or so. My wife is overdue for a new car so I can't change quite yet. I might as well have fun with the CL until I move on to a RWD/AWD monster. Besides, I think it is important to "baby-step" your way into more powerful cars. Mistakes in a powerful machine become very dangerous and expensive.
Originally posted by pjonkheer
I never said a FWD car can't make a lot power. They can and will. My point is if you want to safely and effieciently drive a car with all that torque and HP a RWD is the obvious route. Wheel hop sux and going through a turn with that much power has trouble all over it. I am all for getting as much power as you can out of your car (I have a SCd S2K), but if you really want to do it the right way then RWD is a must. The G35 6-speed is a perfect substitue to the CL, or the sedan 6-speed in place of the TL.
Don't get me wrong, I still love the CL/TL. Just not for adding serious amounts of HP.
I never said a FWD car can't make a lot power. They can and will. My point is if you want to safely and effieciently drive a car with all that torque and HP a RWD is the obvious route. Wheel hop sux and going through a turn with that much power has trouble all over it. I am all for getting as much power as you can out of your car (I have a SCd S2K), but if you really want to do it the right way then RWD is a must. The G35 6-speed is a perfect substitue to the CL, or the sedan 6-speed in place of the TL.
Don't get me wrong, I still love the CL/TL. Just not for adding serious amounts of HP.
Without a doubt, RWD is a better platform to begin with when the plans are to produce significant power. But if the desire is there, it may not be practical to trade vehicles and then begin modifying. Also, there may be qualities to the current vehicle which may not be found or liked on the alternatives (cough, interior design on the mentioned alternative to the CL).
I hear this argument often and it is a valid one. But only when really applied. If someone drives the vehicle under 7/10 of its ability the benefits of RWD is not fully realized. When properly set up you can get pretty good capability from FWD. However, there is a still a margin which cannot be made up for but if not utilized by the RWD vehicle it is irrelevant.
Originally posted by pjonkheer
Well said. But if you're going to baby step into something more serious, I'd stick with exhaust/headers/intake. Skip the SC and wait for the real monster down the road. My buddy had a TL-S with headers/intake/exhaust and man did that baby fly! Makes his 04 TL seem slow!
Well said. But if you're going to baby step into something more serious, I'd stick with exhaust/headers/intake. Skip the SC and wait for the real monster down the road. My buddy had a TL-S with headers/intake/exhaust and man did that baby fly! Makes his 04 TL seem slow!
I already have those mods + pulleys. The SC adds more power, but it isn't going to make it into an undrivable car like some of you are implying. I'm talking about adding 40-50 WHP, not a hundred or more.
Originally posted by scalbert
Not significantly, the M3 weighs in at 3415 so there is about 100 lbs tops. And the torque output from the Jey32A2 with blower will be greater throughout comparable rev ranges. The M3 has the advantage of continuing to make power and hold a gear when the CL-S up shifts.
Not significantly, the M3 weighs in at 3415 so there is about 100 lbs tops. And the torque output from the Jey32A2 with blower will be greater throughout comparable rev ranges. The M3 has the advantage of continuing to make power and hold a gear when the CL-S up shifts.
Originally posted by pjonkheer
Don't get me wrong, I still love the CL/TL. Just not for adding serious amounts of HP.
Don't get me wrong, I still love the CL/TL. Just not for adding serious amounts of HP.






