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Old 09-01-2007, 06:54 PM
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Angry Where are the sport wagon fans!? I am mad...

Now, as a sport wagon fan, this really made me angry! I was reading the Edmunds.com site last night, and saw the new C-Class sport wagon. It's absolutely beautiful! However, they stated clearly that it was NOT heading for the US! I supposed MB did not want it to take any sales from their SUV's. Also, I guess the previous C-Class wagons did not sell so well in the States.

Personally, I want to have only the occasional ability to haul bigger items so a wagon would work just great for me. A good sport wagon would be so much better than an SUV in terms of handling and fuel economy. I have no interest in buying a big SUV but it seems like there are just so few choices out there!

Since I want a premium brand, apart from the usual suspects (BMW and Audi), what are the other choices? I just can't think of any!!! (Subaru may make good wagons but they are not luxurious enough...) Maybe the Infiniti EX would save the day???

Sport wagon fans, please speak up!!!
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I like the S4 Avant. But as you can imagine wagons aren't as hot here as they are in Europe. Would love to see a RS4 Avant out here. They even have M5 Wagons if I'm not mistaken.
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There is also the Jaguar X-Type and Saab 9-3. I would just get a 328i wagon. Sport wagons became dead when the SUV craze started. BTW if you looked at the 3-series wagon sales compared to overall 3-series sales, you would know why almost no one makes premium wagons anymore. Only 2% of all 3-series sales this year has been for wagon.
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I know, I wish that sport wagons were more popular here! They are very popular in Europe - I guess the Europeans understand that bigger is not necessarily better over there!

I totally forgot about the Jag X-type but I don't think that I would touch that thing... poor reliability, I heard. Then the Saab 9-3 wagon surely looks good, but when I sat in my friend's 9-3, I found that the interior was not quite up to par with other premium brands at all.

The new A4 (B8) is HOT HOT HOT! I hope that the wagon will look just as hot and will come over to the States.
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Mazdaspeed3 is a cheap, fast and nice option...

I'm personally a coupe person though, but that mazdaspeed3 is pretty attractive.
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Volvo V70 R FTW!!! 300 horsepower and all the luxury you could ever want.

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Old 09-02-2007, 05:36 PM
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The only wagons I like are the new C-class wagons and that little Volvo wagon, S50 or whatever it is.

The Mazda 6 is also a good one.

I just don't like the looks of wagons in general, they remind me of hearses.
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who the hell would buy a wagon...i never understood why they are still made. do ppl actually like them.. or get them because they have kids and dont want to drive minivans...
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Originally Posted by dr mikeylu
who the hell would buy a wagon...i never understood why they are still made. do ppl actually like them.. or get them because they have kids and dont want to drive minivans...
Assuming you want to carry more than will fit in the trunk, what are your options? The SUV or minivan are the only viable options other than the wagon. An SUV is a totally different driving experience compared to a wagon. The wagon drives just like the car it is based on, and offers all the interior luxury of the car. SUV's are way too big, are far less safe, and consume too much gas, in general.

Personally, I'm hoping hatchbacks come back in fashion - they would give me all the storage I would ever need.
Old 09-03-2007, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperTrooper169
Volvo V70 R FTW!!! 300 horsepower and all the luxury you could ever want.



but I think they are either going to discontinue it if they haven't already done so...


what about the MB R class?
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Originally Posted by dr mikeylu
who the hell would buy a wagon...i never understood why they are still made. do ppl actually like them.. or get them because they have kids and dont want to drive minivans...
Wagons are much closer to the driving dynamics of their sedan counterparts ... SUVs and Minivans generally drive like shit.

I'd much rather have a Volvo V70R over a XC90 if I didn't need room for 7 (which I don't right now thank god).

But, most Americans with their fat asses and their fat assed kids wouldn't fit in a normal wagon.

These days Americans want three rows and captains chairs for little Jimmy and Tiffani with LCDs and all sorts of other crazy shit.

I'd rather own something that I'd enjoy driving and make the compromise of a little extra weight of a wagon over the sedan.
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Station wagons are lame
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Originally Posted by Satan0415
Station wagons are lame


First car that was "mine" to drive (read: Parents owned it) was a 1994 Honda Accord EX 5 speed wagon. What a blast to drive.
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I think the Volvo V70 would have been a good option too, if the interior were nicer and if the reliability were much better!!! Sigh...

The MB R Class is nice, but it's HUGE! It's like a boat... LOL Oh, and I am not so sure about the MB reliability either...

Mazda 3 hatchback is a great car, it's just a little too small for me. The Mazda 6 wagon is very nice looking but I would prefer something a bit more luxurious...

See, there are not many options...
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phile: the Mazda 6 is dead as of end of 07 model year. so what the dealers got is all they got cause the 07 production year completed.

if you got about 80-90 grand price range go with a E63 AMG wagon 507 hp beast. and your talking sub 13 second 1/4 time.
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Sport wagons are the shiznit. I want a 540 wagon for my next car. Find a nice wrecked M5 and drop the drive train in and have the ultimate BMW. Fast, handles well and can haul loads of cargo.

Unfortunately like has been said, Americans prefer SUV's to wagons. A guy from BMW once told me that a 540 wagon sold less per year than Z8s did. I was actually shocked to see an E55 wagon for sale the other day on some website. Apparently they were available but had to be special ordered.
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Did the mazdaspeed6 come as a wagon as well? I only remember seeing them only as sedans.

Now I know the mazdaspeed3 is wagon only.
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Did the mazdaspeed6 come as a wagon as well? I only remember seeing them only as sedans.

Now I know the mazdaspeed3 is wagon only.
The Mazda 6 has the option for a wagon, but the Mazdaspeed 6 is only a sedan.
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
The Mazda 6 has the option for a wagon, but the Mazdaspeed 6 is only a sedan.
Oh alright, just like I thought. I was just getting the impression from other posts that it came in wagon as well for mazdaspeed version.
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Sport wagons are the shiznit. I want a 540 wagon for my next car. Find a nice wrecked M5 and drop the drive train in and have the ultimate BMW. Fast, handles well and can haul loads of cargo.

Unfortunately like has been said, Americans prefer SUV's to wagons. A guy from BMW once told me that a 540 wagon sold less per year than Z8s did. I was actually shocked to see an E55 wagon for sale the other day on some website. Apparently they were available but had to be special ordered.
On the plus side, used wagons appear to be cheaper than their sedan counterparts, especially if you can find one in stick.

Now if only they'd bring over the Accord Tourer as a TSX trim ...
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My folks would have bought a TSX wagon, but were forced instead to get a Subaru
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To the wagon haters....

http://media.ford.com/newsroom/image...4_850_BTCC.jpg
http://www.timlaw.supanet.com/volvohistory.htm

http://carsguide.news.com.au/story/0...003140,00.html

There's more to a car than just the way it looks.
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A wagon like this I wouldn't mind either:

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Mazda 6 wagon
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