stright-(paint)balling

What is your favorite "sleeper"? make and model.
I'll start off.
Benz E63 AMG. a 2 ton car with 4 doors does 12s from the factory. .

csmeance

MB S65 with rentech upgrade, does 11's or lower after tuning. 0-60 in less than 4.4 seconds. weights over 4000 pounds and has more features than any car on the planet.
also buick GNX too...

shouldn't yours be some john Deere tractor???

Hockeyman

I would say a Tyclone or Syclone...those are some sweet trucks

FiveLiterCheater

I'd say the E55 AMG...I don't think theres any other 4dr i'd take over that beast

stangg172004

I dont think an AMG, M, or S can ever be sleeper. Its pretty obvious these cars will obliterate the average ricer. That being said, in the stock world, id say the older C55s. They looked close enough to the regular C-class but obviously were packing some serious power...

an no one better say SRT4!

is300eater

to me a "sleeper" would be the Subaru Forester XT that's kinda ugly... but yet does 0-60 in the low 5's -stock

Stapler

I would have to give another vote for the gnx.

If I don't have to choose a production car I would say that 80's ford crown vic wagon (I think) I saw posted on this forum doing a autocross run.

Costco

I'm pretty sure Hockeyman meant Typhoon & Syclone, but those are some sweet sleepers. I'm digging the Grand Cherokee SRT8 though, low 13s stock (faster than the twin-turbo Cayennes) and handles pretty damn good for a big SUV.

Wisc Badger

+1

BMW's, MB's, or anything Badged SRT, SVT, TRD or whatever... not a sleeper. I agree with the Forester/Outback XT's but at the same time what about some 93 acura legend thats just been sup'd up like crazy by the owner under the hood but left stock on the outside.

THATS a sleeper

FiveLiterCheater

If thats the case, then the Speed3 gets my vote. Nobody would really expect those cars to be fast but man....they're insane for the price.

teranfon

Yeah, although recognizable to some people, they generally look unassuming to most at a passing glance. As Costco said, however, I'm sure you meant Typhoon. I have to disagree with the GNX or Grand National. Too black and too imposing. Now a Turbo T or Limited with the GN powertrain and suspension in a light colour would be a nice sleeper.

I recently ordered an '08 Mustang Bullitt, partly because of its unassuming appearance. No spoiler, fog lights, emblems, or logos. I like it's stealthy or sleeper looks when compared to other Mustangs.

Terry

SuperTrooper169

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Dodge Omni GLH

tsxgoogs

Well if you d badge a car theres almost know way of knowing, i have this friend that used to have a 1999 s4 and he took off the badges and there was almost noway of knowing

Wisc Badger

yeah but you dbadge an audi its still an audi... a benz is still a benz, you make it sound like you take off the TL logo and people will think youre driving a pinto.

Theres a guy on facebook with a 93 chevy cavalier whos dropping a 350 in it and has some serious after market stuff on it. now, it is a piece of shit in my opinion and I wouldn't care to waste my money on something like that but we all know ANY one of us on azine would pull up to him at a stop light and think they could obliterate him and most of us with the exception of some cars on here with forced induction and whatnot would get their asses handed to them.

that is a true sleeper. nothing special on the outside, all money under the hood.

anyone remember the 1993 Chameleon XLE from SNL?

"Every inch of the Chameleon XLE is a pinnacle of urban design.

There's attention to detail. Like three mismatched wheel covers, and one exposed rim in school-bus yellow. Standard.

A broken taillight repaired with duct tape. Standard.

Retractable antenna. Standard.

The body of a Pontiac with a driver's-side door from an Oldsmobile Delta '88. All standard.

The Chameleon XLE. They might tow it away, but they'll never steal it."

tsxgoogs

but they wont know that you have a twin turbo 6, instead of the 1.8 they have basicly the same body

mystikk

Fixed .. but damn, I agree with you.

tsxgoogs

Ah the last gen GTO is one of the best sleepers

nokiaman

Congrats Terry, I saw one at the mall the other day, they look terrific!

teranfon

Thanks nokiaman. Ordered late December, and I'm told late March, early April delivery. Highland Green of course!

Terry

pebe

MKIII GTI or Jetta VR6, turbo'd or sc'd. Wicked fast and you'd never seen them coming. But I'm biased

Wisc Badger

yeah i realize that however, what i am saying is that even an A4 1.8 turbo is a pretty nice car and not knowing whats under the hood, you might be up against a 1.8 with a bigger turbo kit, reflash and 300hp, or just a stock one that can keep up with plenty of cars on the road if not beat them. the shock of being beaten by a "stealth" audi wouldn't be as bad as being beaten by a 93 Chevy Cavalier. De-badging a premium german car no matter what trim still wouldn't qualify as a sleeper to me.

Again, how the hell is a car with 400 hp stock and the main heavily advertised feature (which is the only reason anyone bought them) a sleeper????

Hockeyman

yeah that's what I meant....couldn't think of it earlier. Thanks!

Costco

Most people consider "sleepers" a vehicle that the average person doesn't expect to be fast. And anyways its almost as subjective as taste in cars. Some people considered the 2G TL-S and 6G Maxima to be sleepers when they were new. Just because its a nice car doesn't mean its a sleeper. Obviously if you line up next to a Mustang and it has a mean sounding lope its not a sleeper, but if from the outside it looks like a V6 (single exhaust, no GT/4.6/5.0 badges) and it blows you away at the track, then its a sleeper to me.

I'll still stand by the SRT8 Cherokee, most people won't know what hit them until they're looking at the center mount exhaust.

Wisc Badger

maybe I just assume that most people know enough about cars to realize what car has what potential to whoop your ass... whatever.

but i still stand by my statement that whoever thinks a GTO is a sleeper seriously needs to have their head examined.

TLdriver022

yes!!! hahahaha.

jz-97-c7

omni glh
gmc syclone/typhoon
t-type regal
grand prix gtp/ regal GS....minimal mods make big power

SuperTrooper169

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Since some are finally agreeing with me and the Dodge Omni GLH, here's a picture to reinforce what a true "sleeper" looks like... which is a POS. This example is a 10.9 1/4 mile car.



http://www.relentlessracing.com/main.htm

subinf

I'm a fan of the S6 right now. Not much sets it apart from the regular A6.

asianspec

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Galant VR-4

1killercls

My favorite sleeper would be you Water, then you wouldn't be able to post here.

TheMirror

The era of the 'factory' sleeper is largely gone, most manufacturers attach all types of racey looking things to their fast offerings these days. Its a lesson learned by Chevrolet with the '90-'95 ZR-1, when they looked almost exactly like standard Corvettes except for a slightly wider rear end...and a different taillight treatment on the early cars.

For sleepers these days, I will go with the big Benz sedans. Unless you know what that S600 or S65 badge means on the decklid, there really isn't much else to tell you the thing will crush your new Mustang GT in the 1/4 mile.

-Mirror

tsxgoogs

A sleeper is just the way it looks, powerfull engine and plain looks that what i think is a sleeper, if you step back and look at a gto befor they had the hood scopes and actually looked at it and had no previous ideas about it you would tell me that it has 400hp v8

S A CHO

+



= Sleeper.

It may be outpowered by todays cars, but in 89, BMW's M cars had a hard time keeping up...

mrproul

my integra

teranfon

Years ago I had an SHO, and it certainly surprised A LOT of other performance sedans. Ate a clutch or two, but a helluva car for its time.

Terry

S A CHO

You can say that again.

My 93 is still surprising some other performance sedans

Not looking forward to doing my clutch, now that you mention it...

SuperTrooper169

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I forgot all about the SHO's. Definitely a sleeper!

SuperTrooper169

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How about more of a classic sleeper. This one IMO started the whole sleeper term.

1962 Pontiac Catalina Super Duty 421

I came across one at a car show a few months back and the owner was schooling me on it. Wow, what a car. Looked like any other full sized early 60's GM car but came from the factory with a big block 421 with dual quad carbs and NASCAR heads on it and even though the factory claimed it was 405hp it was closer to 500hp. From the outside you'd never guess this car was a monster.

PPLAPW

enigmaos

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not sure if this car qualifies as sleeper: Lexus Sc with 2jz?