What would you buy, NSX or Viper?

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Old 01-21-2005, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Interesting question Jerky. But I think this comparison/debate lends itself more towards an import vs domestic argument. As such, I know people who'd much rather buy an 05 Pontiac Bonneville GXP instead of an 05 Acura TL w/Navi. (I cant make sense of something like that but they just have a totally different perspective.)

That said, I like the Viper's performance and know it would tear an NSX apart in a race. However, I'd take the NSX over the Viper any day.

05 Pontiac Bonneville GXP instead of an 05 Acura TL w/Navi?

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Originally Posted by importtuner
My choice will go towards a Porsche GT3; fast as a Viper and as refined/balanced as an NSX!
mmmmm, GT3


This guy was cool as sh!t. We got caught at a light together and nailed. I had a crappy launch, but we were close the entire time we were going. We got up to about 160 and then slowed down. I absolutley love that car though!!
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IMO, the decision would really depend on the objective and what the plans were for the car. The Viper is brutally quick out of the box; the NSX isn't. The Viper is not a slouch when it comes to handling and braking. In the hands of an experienced driver the Viper will handle as well as the NSX.

However, most people can't drive well enough, including myself, to extract the same potential out of the car. The NSX is easier to drive fast so for many it would work out well. But you can't get over that power deficit and the NSX would ultimately lose to a Viper on a track.

But if it came down to purchasing a used one of either and putting some money into moddifying them, I would take the NSX. The more exotic look and mid-engine layout is very desireable. It would take some money to get near the Viper's acceleration but it can be done. There is just something about the NSX which I have always liked.

I guess that is why I will be buying one for a project in the near future.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
IMO, the decision would really depend on the objective and what the plans were for the car. The Viper is brutally quick out of the box; the NSX isn't. The Viper is not a slouch when it comes to handling and braking. In the hands of an experienced driver the Viper will handle as well as the NSX.

However, most people can't drive well enough, including myself, to extract the same potential out of the car. The NSX is easier to drive fast so for many it would work out well. But you can't get over that power deficit and the NSX would ultimately lose to a Viper on a track.

But if it came down to purchasing a used one of either and putting some money into moddifying them, I would take the NSX. The more exotic look and mid-engine layout is very desireable. It would take some money to get near the Viper's acceleration but it can be done. There is just something about the NSX which I have always liked.

I guess that is why I will be buying one for a project in the near future.
BTW - I remember watching a Road Atlanta road race last year on Speed where a white S/C'd NSX was walking over all the vipers in the race and was pressing the Audi's up front.

I think a viper would be fun to drive, but I would never want to own one. However, I'd love to own an NSX. IMO, It's such a refined car, especially the engine.
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Originally Posted by ashran2
viper cannot simply compete with nsx....
Put both of them on a same track and the SRT Viper will own an NSX.

Here's an idea of what the SRT Viper can do:






*The most remarkable thing with this group is that the new record holder is a Dodge Viper (who'da thunk it!--see John Kiewicz' comments), and its 97-foot braking distance is the first time in history we've recorded a sub-100-foot stop in a production car.






*This is only the second occasion when we've recorded a sub-300-foot stop for a production car and now we have five. The former record holder was a 294-foot stop from a previously tested Corvette Z06.






Originally Posted by ashran2
and if u buy viper half the time u would be either refuelling it or it will be sitting in garage getting repaired...

but nsx is meant to be driven.... meant for everyday use... so it means it is reliable...

but if u want a car that looks good sitting in the garage NSX does that pretty well too...
Take a look at Viperclub.org and you'll see that many people there drive them daily and most are trouble free. Heck in my neighborhood there's a guy that has a '94 black RT-10 that is driven almost everyday for the past five or six years. And yes it guzzle gas but you don't buy a high powered sport cars for fuel economy.
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For the same level of driving skill, an NSX will easily outperform a stock, previous generation Viper at the track due to the nature of mid-engine and RWD plus a lightweight aluminum body. However, the Viper's phenomenal pull in a straight-line makes it quite the experience, but the constant attention to drive it hard is downright draining. Trying to monitor your throttle position to keep the car from flying off the track takes a lot of mental capacity.

In the end, it really boils down to what you're looking for in a car. The NSX has its appeal because it is mid-engined, has exotic lines, and is an exceptional handling car with an excellent racing pedigree. The Viper is a stunning looking example of American design done right and has exceptional acceleration, but suffers from the weight of that massive V10 sitting in the nose. The handling is good, but cannot compete with an NSX in true track conditions. The ample torque, however, makes it easier to drive on a daily basis.

Figure out what you want in a car and pick the one that most closely matches.
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Yea but for a GT3 you can get 2 NSX's or 2 Vipers. For overall look, stlye, performance, and value i would get the NSX. Its rare, its a honda, and hand crafted.
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viper SRT-10 eats NSX's and shits out aluminum cans.
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Originally Posted by NJtsx
For overall look, stlye, performance, and value i would get the NSX. Its rare, its a honda, and hand crafted.
doesn't the NSX cost $30K more?
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
For the same level of driving skill, an NSX will easily outperform a stock, previous generation Viper at the track due to the nature of mid-engine and RWD plus a lightweight aluminum body. However, the Viper's phenomenal pull in a straight-line makes it quite the experience, but the constant attention to drive it hard is downright draining. Trying to monitor your throttle position to keep the car from flying off the track takes a lot of mental capacity.

In the end, it really boils down to what you're looking for in a car. The NSX has its appeal because it is mid-engined, has exotic lines, and is an exceptional handling car with an excellent racing pedigree. The Viper is a stunning looking example of American design done right and has exceptional acceleration, but suffers from the weight of that massive V10 sitting in the nose. The handling is good, but cannot compete with an NSX in true track conditions. The ample torque, however, makes it easier to drive on a daily basis.

Figure out what you want in a car and pick the one that most closely matches.
but you are talking about the previous gen. viper, right?
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Originally Posted by Jerky
05 Pontiac Bonneville GXP instead of an 05 Acura TL w/Navi?

crazyiness.....
Insanity is probably a better word. I actually know a couple of folks that hold the current Bonneville in awe.
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Originally Posted by mattg
but you are talking about the previous gen. viper, right?
Right. I have not driven the latest Viper so it would not be fair for me to pass judgement. I'll have to find an opportunity to drive one at some point.
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just look at those specs a few posts up.

the SRT-10 stops quicker than any production car they have ever tested. amazing.
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Originally Posted by cls6sp03
BTW - I remember watching a Road Atlanta road race last year on Speed where a white S/C'd NSX was walking over all the vipers in the race and was pressing the Audi's up front.
That was in the SPEED World Challange and was piloted by Peter Cunningham for RealTime Racing. That car was nice but the only one example. It was only present for two years unfortunately in the SC form; never heard why it dropped out though (maybe rules changes). They did run an NA NSX years earlier.

BTW, those Audi's were only the S4; 2.7T.

http://www.speedvisionwc.com/news/01press9.html

http://www.realtimerl.com/
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All this talk about NSX's has accelerated my efforts to begin looking into buying one. I've even signed up at nsxprime.
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Originally Posted by cls6sp03
I've even signed up at nsxprime.
I'll see ya around that forum then as I am begining my build up.
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If you guys want any info on these cars, let me know. Especially the 1991-1996 model (3.0L, 5spd). I can tell you guys what goes wrong... what things cost to fix... what are the 'annoying' things that could happen etc.

It's a lovely car and at times I wish I did not sell mine - would be a nice playcar!!
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Viper most defenutly
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
If you guys want any info on these cars, let me know. Especially the 1991-1996 model (3.0L, 5spd). I can tell you guys what goes wrong... what things cost to fix... what are the 'annoying' things that could happen etc.

It's a lovely car and at times I wish I did not sell mine - would be a nice playcar!!
Come on, join in with me an we can have east and west coast J32A2 Twin Turbo powered NSX's.
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If the HSC came out... I'd save up and buy it - its beautiful!!
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Come on, join in with me an we can have east and west coast J32A2 Twin Turbo powered NSX's.
Haha... let me buy my new house first... given prices over here, it will be a while before I can part with the 30-40K needed for such a project!
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I've heard some impressive things about factor-x motorsports and their NSX projects. Only if I had the funds!!!!
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NSX or Viper, thats easy.




V-10 power all the way.
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NSX no doubt.
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I'm going with the NSX.

I dont much care for the newest gen Viper...specially after sitting in one for 15 minutes..something just didnt feel right.
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Originally Posted by sarlacc23
I'm going with the NSX.

I dont much care for the newest gen Viper...specially after sitting in one for 15 minutes..something just didnt feel right.

Yea, it has way too much power for a girly man like you. :wink:
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Originally Posted by Katana18
Yea, it has way too much power for a girly man like you. :wink:
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Vipers do have amazing power, I'll give them that...

But...MY GOD, I'm still in love with the NSX...I'll choose that.
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Originally Posted by Katana18
NSX or Viper, thats easy.




V-10 power all the way.
The only V-10 power that really interests me wears a Porsche badge. As if that would ever happen in my life time. Oh yes, the BMW badged one is kind of alluring too. As for the viper, does absolutely nothing for me...
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Haha... let me buy my new house first... given prices over here, it will be a while before I can part with the 30-40K needed for such a project!


Your engine mounts will be waiting.
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Nsx

Caveat: I have never driven a Viper and I own a NSX....

Anyway, as some of you have said, it's about your priorities...

The NSX is fast, though not as fast as some other cars out there, including many that are fairly modest. A big bottle of nitrous on an Evo or STI will make it faster than a Viper, but on some level who cares? Is your desire to have the fastest car in your town? If so, I wish you luck. Hard to stay at the top.

For me, it's a blast to accelerate hard and get that rush and I bet a Viper would do that for me even better than the NSX, but owning a car is more than just driving it all out all the time. The NSX is a really nice car to spend time in. It was designed with incredible attention to detail. Thus, the NSX is the perfect exotic car in that its fast, handles amazingly well, is reliable, is very sexy, is fun to drive and doesn't really cost all that much to own (insurance, gas, etc).

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dodge viper front reminds me of honda s2000

even the interior also with a red start button and stuff....

dodge viper

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doesn't the NSX cost $30K more?
I dont mean value as in which is cheaper but which car gets the most out of the money. But now im kinda skeptical after thinking about this. I'm thinking would you rather open your garage to to a 290 HP all aluminum super honda or a 500HP+ monster?
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honda nsx forever
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Originally Posted by ashran2
dodge viper front reminds me of honda s2000

even the interior also with a red start button and stuff....

dodge viper
Honda S2000???? i dont see that. And wouldnt that be a good thing if it did?
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BTW, the Hennessey Venom TT SRT Viper placed in C&D's Supercar Challenge in '04. Sadly Comptech didn't bring out their NSX this time, maybe they didn't want to lose as bad as they did in 2002 in the Supercar Challenge again.:troutslap
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Originally Posted by cls6sp03
The only V-10 power that really interests me wears a Porsche badge. As if that would ever happen in my life time.
You don't like the M5/M6? Very nice, and much more attainable.


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