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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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I'm not a fan of large vehicles. It looks awesome, personally I think the cooled seats are a worthless feature. What's the use of cooled seats, maybe for fat-ass hogs who sweat profusely, but honestly the A/C unit should suffice, you're back I'm sure won't appreciate direct cool air, it'll cause some aches.
Dude, have you ever used the seat-cooling feature in 110-degree Alabama summer heat while wearing a suit?

Yeah, the conventional AC unit is good for cooling the cabin. But the seat itself is still hot from sitting in the sun and is still cooking your back. It's an awesome feature. I love it and it's far from being worthless.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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They shoulda thought of their own design instead of working off of Euro Hondas. See any resemblance?....

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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I see zero resemblance... I also think the Taurus is a much more fluent, balanced design too.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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^ talk to us in 5 years and lets see who's car is holding up better in value & dependability.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
^ talk to us in 5 years and lets see who's car is holding up better in value & dependability.
Well the 5 yr value is sort of out of their control, but I would bet/hope the new fords are still running strong.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
^ talk to us in 5 years and lets see who's car is holding up better in value & dependability.
Nonsense.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
They shoulda thought of their own design instead of working off of Euro Hondas. See any resemblance?....
You do realize that ford has had some awesome vehicles overseas with some awesome euro design elements long before the current gen TL?

Cases in point:

http://cars.about.com/od/detoursandd...ord-Mondeo.htm

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring...-xr-update.htm

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
^ talk to us in 5 years and lets see who's car is holding up better in value & dependability.
I'll agree with you on dependability, for now. But value? That was rich.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
They shoulda thought of their own design instead of working off of Euro Hondas. See any resemblance?....
Nope, none. I don't see it. It's a ridiculous claim.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
They shoulda thought of their own design instead of working off of Euro Hondas. See any resemblance?....
Put down the bong.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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I drove it briefly at the local auto show around a small test track. The car does pick up speed well but its every quiet from the inside and out. Interior is nice but exterior is quite large.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Love the new Taurus.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Where's that guy that claims everyone steals from Hyundai? I'm waiting for him to post a side-by-side comparo lol (whatever the fuck his name is)
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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They should put that engine in the new Mustang and call the the SVO!
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Where's that guy that claims everyone steals from Hyundai? I'm waiting for him to post a side-by-side comparo lol (whatever the fuck his name is)
MSL...I think they whacked him with the ban stick
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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They should put that engine in the new Mustang and call the the SVO!
Now THAT is an awesome idea.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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The SHO's are hawt
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
^ talk to us in 5 years and lets see who's car is holding up better in value & dependability.


I like how you tried arguing a moot point, then once proven wrong you jumped to the next false assumption.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco


I like how you tried arguing a moot point, then once proven wrong you jumped to the next false assumption.
So you're saying a 2010 Ford SHO will hold more value in 5 years then lets say a 2010 fully loaded TL? Wow.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Damn you all have given this Ford allot of thought & credit...not saying anyones right or wrong but we can each defend what we think is right. Naturally owning 3 TLs, pops owning a G35 and no longer going American as we did in times past I'm going to defend the TL.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
So you're saying a 2010 Ford SHO will hold more value in 5 years then lets say a 2010 fully loaded TL? Wow.
Smart money says that the TL SH-AWD will have better resale value over the Taurus SHO in five years. Historically speaking, I've not observed any Ford product with better value retention than its Honda counterpart.

However, that does not diminish Ford's commendable effort as of late. They are producing nicely styled, well engineered vehicles the represent good value (in general).
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
So you're saying a 2010 Ford SHO will hold more value in 5 years then lets say a 2010 fully loaded TL? Wow.
At least the folks at Ford didn't hire Stevie Wonder and Ronnie Milsap to head up their styling department. I can drive past a Ford dealer without puking in my suit and I think that says something.

Taurus > TL

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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I'll have to echo what previous posters have stated.

Ford should use the SHO badge and put out some performance versions of its other models.

SHO Fusion etc
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PortlandRL
At least the folks at Ford didn't hire Stevie Wonder and Ronnie Milsap to head up their styling department. I can drive past a Ford dealer without puking in my suit and I think that says something.

Taurus > TL

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Blind celebrity designers FTW
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh99CL
I'll have to echo what previous posters have stated.

Ford should use the SHO badge and put out some performance versions of its other models.

SHO Fusion etc
Indeed. I think a Fusion SHO could set itself up as sort of a "poor man's 335i xdrive."
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
Damn you all have given this Ford allot of thought & credit...not saying anyones right or wrong but we can each defend what we think is right. Naturally owning 3 TLs, pops owning a G35 and no longer going American as we did in times past I'm going to defend the TL.
Ignorance is bliss
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
So you're saying a 2010 Ford SHO will hold more value in 5 years then lets say a 2010 fully loaded TL? Wow.
this just gets better and better.

First you say the Taurus ripped off the TSX's design, and when everyone else disagrees with you (obviously because your post was false), you go and say "let's see how much it's worth 5 years from now" when obviously more expensive cars tend to depreciate more unless it has collector's value. Try looking at how much used S-Classes cost after 5 years compared to when new. Then you go and compare the Taurus to the TL.... wtf? What next, are you going to compare the SHO to a Fit and comment how the Fit gets much better gas mileage?

Anyways, who cares about how the car looks or how behind it is technologically. It's all about the resale value and how much it's worth 3 years from now! That means the Volkswagen R32 is the best car ever, because it only appreciates in value!! Yeah!!!!

I'm a car enthusiast, not an investment banker. I don't care how much a car holds in value, really. I love my car, so I drive it, which means I put miles on it and it's worth less when it comes time to sell it.... and I don't care.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Smart money says that the TL SH-AWD will have better resale value over the Taurus SHO in five years. Historically speaking, I've not observed any Ford product with better value retention than its Honda counterpart.

However, that does not diminish Ford's commendable effort as of late. They are producing nicely styled, well engineered vehicles the represent good value (in general).
Agree!
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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First you say the Taurus ripped off the TSX's design, and when everyone else disagrees with you (obviously because your post was false), you go and say "let's see how much it's worth 5 years from now" when obviously more expensive cars tend to depreciate more unless it has collector's value. Try looking at how much used S-Classes cost after 5 years compared to when new. Then you go and compare the Taurus to the TL.... wtf? What next, are you going to compare the SHO to a Fit and comment how the Fit gets much better gas mileage? DISAGREE!
Anyways, who cares about how the car looks or how behind it is technologically. It's all about the resale value and how much it's worth 3 years from now! That means the Volkswagen R32 is the best car ever, because it only appreciates in value!! Yeah!!!! DISAGREE
I'm a car enthusiast, not an investment banker. I don't care how much a car holds in value, really. I love my car, so I drive it, which means I put miles on it and it's worth less when it comes time to sell it.... and I don't care.[/quote] AGREE!

This is a friendly discussion but you understood me wrong on some things. I do give Ford credit for what they have done but I'd still pick a TL over it is all I'm saying.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Smart money says that the TL SH-AWD will have better resale value over the Taurus SHO in five years. Historically speaking, I've not observed any Ford product with better value retention than its Honda counterpart.

However, that does not diminish Ford's commendable effort as of late. They are producing nicely styled, well engineered vehicles the represent good value (in general).


That being said, I would likely take a used Taurus SHO than a used TL Type S...! If what we both think does come true, you're getting a very good high-performance sedan for less than the "competition"!
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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looks good, but won't pay $40k.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PortlandRL
At least the folks at Ford didn't hire Stevie Wonder and Ronnie Milsap to head up their styling department. I can drive past a Ford dealer without puking in my suit and I think that says something.

Taurus > TL

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I agree.
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