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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 06:46 PM
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LOL i guess i saw a fake one then.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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i would rule out CTS completely. it is a dying breed. they have dated tech, and the V wagon get the same MPGs as a heavy duty truck. additionally, the way caddy is pushing designs, the CTS wagon is already starting to look like a thing of the past compared to the new CTS sedans that just came out.

i was in a similar boat. got really excited over the allroad, but it suffers bigtime for utility. the rear seats are pathetic. the rear seats might as well be collapsed, for a 2 front seats plus extended cargo space. seriously, i was questioning why the thing even had four doors. if you could get away with a 2 door wagon for your lifestlye, then look no further, as this is effectively what you are getting.

if you default to a 3series wagon, i say do it. BUT, note that BMW jacks up prices only because they preserve strong residiuals. i.e. BUYING one is retarded, as pricing is structured for a competitive lease...as most people lease BMWs. if you go the route of leasing, i wouldnt look beyond a 328 wagon.

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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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I don't think the CTS-V looks dated at all. I'm less of a fan of the 3.6L V6 engine in the CTS wagon.

Audi needs to get their act together with that 2.0T in the Allroad. It's just not good enough for a car that big.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I don't think the CTS-V looks dated at all. I'm less of a fan of the 3.6L V6 engine in the CTS wagon.

Audi needs to get their act together with that 2.0T in the Allroad. It's just not good enough for a car that big.
Over here, you can get the A4 Avant. And if you do a small tune on it, you can squeeze out more HP. Also, the A6 Avant is

Too bad the US market for these sucks.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermonMermon
i would rule out CTS completely. it is a dying breed. they have dated tech, and the V wagon get the same MPGs as a heavy duty truck. additionally, the way caddy is pushing designs, the CTS wagon is already starting to look like a thing of the past compared to the new CTS sedans that just came out.

i was in a similar boat. got really excited over the allroad, but it suffers bigtime for utility. the rear seats are pathetic. the rear seats might as well be collapsed, for a 2 front seats plus extended cargo space. seriously, i was questioning why the thing even had four doors. if you could get away with a 2 door wagon for your lifestlye, then look no further, as this is effectively what you are getting.

if you default to a 3series wagon, i say do it. BUT, note that BMW jacks up prices only because they preserve strong residiuals. i.e. BUYING one is retarded, as pricing is structured for a competitive lease...as most people lease BMWs. if you go the route of leasing, i wouldnt look beyond a 328 wagon.
Agreed on both points.

- The Allroad's backseat is laughably small. It looks bigger than a standard A4 because of the flared fenders, but inside it's no bigger. I'm 6 ft and I like to sit closer to the steering wheel than normal for someone my height and I can't fit behind the driver seat comfortably.

- I mentioned in an earlier post that the 3-year residual on a 328i xDrive is 62% which is considerably better than any other brand I've heard of. That alone could be enough to convince me to lease a BMW.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
Over here, you can get the A4 Avant. And if you do a small tune on it, you can squeeze out more HP. Also, the A6 Avant is

Too bad the US market for these sucks.
For me, both Audi and BMW dealerships around me will void the factory warranty if the engine is at all tampered with.

Conversely, my VW dealership actually sells APR software and parts so they are completely fine with my APR-tuned Tiguan.
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