(VIDS) me v. supercharged cl-s, me vs. 350z

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Old 09-22-2003 | 08:00 PM
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(VIDS) me v. supercharged cl-s, me vs. 350z

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this first one is me (ur pulleys, cai, headers, catback) vs. RedRider (icebox, headers, mufflers, s/c) from a stop. he got a little jump on me in this race, but it's obvious to see the power the s/c is making over my n/a car.
http://www.typesdragoon.com/Cap0005.mpg


this is from a 50 mph roll in 2nd gear.
http://www.typesdragoon.com/Cap0002.mpg

me vs. H@mmerm@n 350z 6mt. 50 mph roll. see what happens when i shift into 4th gear. :o i let off after that.
http://www.typesdragoon.com/Cap0006.mpg


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i think the s/c is a great way to bolt on some nice reliable hp & tq. and with all the talk about piggyback ecu's, intercoolers and such, things should continue to get more interesting.

6mt 350z isn't a joke. even in bone stock form they will take out most any n/a cl-s, auto or 6mt. there's only a handful of cars on this forum that would have a chance with one. a stock cl-s wouldn't even be a race.

my car was 190 lbs. heavier than normal, thanks to camera man TypeSDragoon. excuses, excuses..

thanks to jeff for hosting.
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:01 PM
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NIce vids, I'd like to take a shot at that Red Rider
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:07 PM
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NIce vids, I'd like to take a shot at that Red Rider
Dude... not being a jerk, but you'd take him by a LOT
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:08 PM
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BTW... nice videos, wish I was able to make it up there!!
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:10 PM
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Also... did you guys hit the track? If so, what were the E.Ts/MPHs?
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:14 PM
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sweet vidz, what happened w/ the 350, u got him in 2nd gear then he reeled u in 3rd and left ya in 4th??

FI ownz, nice car red rider
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:14 PM
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i wish i was on the left side of the country so i could of raced w/ ya guys
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:23 PM
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Why don't you guys do something in the SF area...?? Kind of halfway!?!
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:39 PM
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man that s/c cl-s just steadly pulled away
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:46 PM
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Awesome vids Guys ! Great to finally see them. Yeehaaaaaa
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by darrinb
sweet vidz, what happened w/ the 350, u got him in 2nd gear then he reeled u in 3rd and left ya in 4th??

FI ownz, nice car red rider
Thanks Bro, can't wait for the ECU upgrade, Aftercooler and B-Pipe
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:48 PM
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NOVA what u mean that he pulled away slowly or what?
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by Titand19
NIce vids, I'd like to take a shot at that Red Rider
let me at 'em let me at 'em ....mmmmuh.... put 'em mup
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:52 PM
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nice finally some vids
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:53 PM
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you know what would be awsome A VID OF A MAXED OUT BOLT ON AUTO,then 6mt then me in the 3.5 then the comp blown unit and last the twin turbo on a 5 lane from a slow roll...i caN JUST SEE THE STAGGER sorry bout the intermitatant caps lock
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by typeR
let me at 'em let me at 'em ....mmmmuh.... put 'em mup
We'll probably have to meet in Kansas or something
Old 09-22-2003 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Red Rider
We'll probably have to meet in Kansas or something
soo...how much software would you like to buy....great 500 it is !!!!


anyway did you get my PM? have you tracked it yet?
Old 09-22-2003 | 09:05 PM
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Kick ass vids... thanks for posting them .. i want a supercharger real bad now grrrrrrr.
Old 09-22-2003 | 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by typeR
soo...how much software would you like to buy....great 500 it is !!!!


anyway did you get my PM? have you tracked it yet?
You've got mail.
Old 09-22-2003 | 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
man that s/c cl-s just steadly pulled away
it pulled like it had a bit more power.

but not $4500 worth IMO.

A S/C vs N/A car should jog/run away. Not barely walk IMO.

Cool videos!

Is his car the auto S/C? might explain things... or he was shifting early or something?

Old 09-22-2003 | 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
it pulled like it had a bit more power.

but not $4500 worth IMO.

A S/C vs N/A car should jog/run away. Not barely walk IMO.

Cool videos!

Is his car the auto S/C? might explain things... or he was shifting early or something?

Were we watching the same videos ?? I pulled immediately and steadily on Matt. The run was less than a quarter mile yet i was quite a few car lengths ahead. Did you watch the 6 speed Z video ? Matt pulled on him and led for awhile, and that's a 14.0 second car stock. By the way, the SC is really just starting to stretch it's legs at the speed we shut it down at.
Old 09-22-2003 | 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by darrinb
sweet vidz, what happened w/ the 350, u got him in 2nd gear then he reeled u in 3rd and left ya in 4th??

FI ownz, nice car red rider
well, hammerman didn't shift down to 2nd :o

he "could" have tho, and left matt about a mile behind

i believe hammer said when asked why he didn't go down to second, "there was no need to"
obviously, even in 3rd gear at that speed, the 350z still kicks a CLS's ass

weee!
Old 09-22-2003 | 10:33 PM
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Re: (VIDS) me v. supercharged cl-s, me vs. 350z

Originally posted by mattg

my car was 190 lbs. heavier than normal, thanks to camera man TypeSDragoon. excuses, excuses..

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192 today :o
Old 09-22-2003 | 10:34 PM
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where's the Z versus S/C CL?
Old 09-22-2003 | 11:00 PM
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where's the Z versus S/C CL?
no footage of that
Old 09-22-2003 | 11:59 PM
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Old 09-23-2003 | 12:21 AM
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Great job Mattg, Jeff/Bob,
Old 09-23-2003 | 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Dude... not being a jerk, but you'd take him by a LOT
You're not being a jerk, we all know that tit has your turbo, and you have a 12 sec vid with it on your car. So high 12 to low 13 sec car VS hi 13 to low 14 sec car is "take him by a LOT "
Old 09-23-2003 | 12:59 AM
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Nice work guys! Lookin' forward to the rest of the vids...
Old 09-23-2003 | 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by typeR
you know what would be awsome A VID OF A MAXED OUT BOLT ON AUTO,then 6mt then me in the 3.5 then the comp blown unit and last the twin turbo on a 5 lane from a slow roll...i caN JUST SEE THE STAGGER sorry bout the intermitatant caps lock
my prediction
1. turbo takes all
2. 3.5
3. bolt on auto not by much
4. and last the stock 6sp

i bet everyone would agree on this, unless the 3.5 doesnt have headers or the six speed isnt stock.
Old 09-23-2003 | 01:38 AM
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vids are a bit short, and im a bit dissapointed in the s/c'
Old 09-23-2003 | 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Dude... not being a jerk, but you'd take him by a LOT
You might want to clarify this; right now he wouldn't since the Turbo is not on the car!!!
Old 09-23-2003 | 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
A S/C vs N/A car should jog/run away. Not barely walk IMO.

Is his car the auto S/C? might explain things... or he was shifting early or something?
It is an automatic SC CL-S; didn't notice the all red '01 - '02 tailights??

Old 09-23-2003 | 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by power3dfx
my prediction
1. turbo takes all
2. 3.5
3. bolt on auto not by much
4. and last the stock 6sp

i bet everyone would agree on this, unless the 3.5 doesnt have headers or the six speed isnt stock.
Nope, I would not completely agree. Let's look at the numbers presented thus far and also referring to what a car can do everyday; not when ideally prepped to run at the strip.

First, the turbo needs to be on the car to make a difference; but for hypothetical comparisons it is certainly the one with the most potential. So I would also give it a nod to the lead.

Between the auto 3.5L upgrade and an auto SC, the SC makes more torque and more power; this is going by dyno's presented so far.

I would put the auto 3.5 close to a 6-Speed with bolt-ons with maybe a slight nod to the auto 3.5.

So below is my revised list based on power potential:

1. 3.5 Turbo - 6-Speed
2. Turbo - 6-Speed
3. 3.5 SC - 6-Speed
4. 3.5 SC - Auto
5. SC - 6-Speed
6. SC - Auto
7. 3.5 - 6-Speed
8. 3.5 - Auto
9. Bolt-ons - 6-Speed
10. Bolt-ons - Auto
11. Stock - 6-Speed
12. Stock - Auto

Now obviously with varying level of tuning things could change which is why I made reference to power potential.
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:26 AM
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Oh Steve, you forgot about the 6-speeders that are running 6 lbs of boost along with the Intercooler and exhaust work...LOL...

Being #5 sucks....
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:32 AM
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Old 09-23-2003 | 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by Smitty
Oh Steve, you forgot about the 6-speeders that are running 6 lbs of boost along with the Intercooler and exhaust work...LOL...

Being #5 sucks....
I was trying to keep the list down to under 100...

But yes, the CL-S6SC with IC and 8 PSI boost would put it near the top but the same could be done to the CL-S6SC3.5. Or add to that the easy ability to turn up the boost on the turbo...
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by Smitty
Oh Steve, you forgot about the 6-speeders that are running 6 lbs of boost along with the Intercooler and exhaust work...LOL...

Being #5 sucks....
3.5 upgrade!
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:53 AM
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Nice vids. Too bad we weren't able to get my Z in one of those.

Ahh... the memories...
Old 09-23-2003 | 05:10 AM
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Looks like fun!!!

Nice vids!


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