blackmagiCL_S

I saw an Acura Vigor on the way to work this morning and I was thinking that maybe the TSX is more akin to the Vigor than a 4 door RSX. The Vigor was pretty much a stand alone car as the TSX will be. And the TSX doesn't look at all like the RSX. Also, my guess is that the TSX will be a bit bigger than the RSX but smaller than the TL...much like the Vigor was bigger than the 'teg but smaller than the Legend. Sorry if this has been mentioned before.

A second comment/question...back in the Vigor day, it was just an Acrua-ized 4 door Accord, right? Was the Legend a whole new platform or was it also somehow built on an existing Honda platform?

Zapata

No need to guess The specs on the interior are already out

www.acuranews.com

sundance_gold

2004 Acura TSX Specifications



Detroit, MI 01/05/2003 --

2004 ACURA TSX
POWERTRAIN

Engine Type
16-valve, DOHC, 2.4-liter, I-VTEC 4-cylinder
Horsepower, SAE Net
200 hp @ 6,800 rpm
Torque, SAE Net
166 lb-ft @ 4,500 rpm
Emission Control
LEV-2 (Low Emissions Vehicle-II)
Transmission
6-speed manual or
5-speed Sequential SportShift(TM) automatic
CHASSIS

Body Type
Steel unit body
Front Suspension
Independent double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
Rear Suspension
Independent multi-link double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
Steering Type
Rack-and-pinion
Wheels
17x7 7-spoke alloy wheels
Tires
P215/50R17
Braking System
4-wheel disc brakes with 4-channel ABS
FUEL ECONOMY

Estimated EPA Fuel Mileage-City/Highway*
Manual: 21/29
Automatic: 22/31

* Preliminary EPA mileage estimates determined by Honda. Final EPA mileage estimates were not available at the time of printing.
Use for comparison purposes only. Your mileage may vary.

EXTERIOR DIMENSIONS

Overall Length
183.3 in (4,657 mm)
Overall Width
69.4 in (1,762 mm)
Overall Height
57.3 in (1,456 mm)
INTERIOR DIMENSIONS

Front


Head Room
37.8 in (960 mm)
Leg Room
42.4 in (1,076 mm)
Hip Room
54.4 in (1,381 mm)
Shoulder Room
55.4 in (1,406 mm)
Rear


Head Room
37.3 in (947 mm)
Leg Room
34.2 in (868 mm)
Hip Room
54.4 in (1,382 mm)
Shoulder Room
53.5 in (1,360 mm)
Volumes


Passenger
90.9 cu. ft.
Cargo
13.2 cu. ft.
Total
104.1 cu. ft.
WARRANTIES

Vehicle
4-year/50,000-mile limited warranty
Outer Body Rust-Through
5-year/unlimited-mile limited warranty
Acura Total Luxury Care (TLC) with roadside assistance
4-year/50,000 mile

AcuraFan

The Vigor became the TL, just as the Legend was replaced by the RL. So the TSX fills the "void" left by the 4 door Integra. However, the TSX isn't a 4 door RSX, it's a completely different platform. I think they are lumped together because they are the smallest coupe and sedan in the Acura lineup...but that's where the similarities stop.

Sly Raskal

iTrader: (1)

yea AcuraFan is right, they simply developed this new model to bridge the gap, you can consider the cl to be the coupe version of the legend since there never was a coupe version of the vigor. but the RL is in fact the replacement of the legend just like AcuraFan said.

jimcol711

how much does the TSX weigh?? has that been announced yet?? what about the weight distribution

blackmagiCL_S

I think that the RL is called the Legend in Japan still?

LegendC

Yep, its still a Legend outside the US. And to answer the earlier question both the Legend coupe and sedan share no platform with other honda cars. In fact the coupe and sedan are more different than the CL\TL.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

I know it's going to take some time for people to accept that there's no replacement for the 4-door Integra... but everyone needs to realize that the TSX is NOT a 4-door RSX.....

AcuraFan

But is the Legend in Japan the same thing as the RL here? Same car, different name? Or is it a different car filling the same niche in the market?

blackmagiCL_S

From the look of the car on the Honda japan web site it is the same car.

DtEW

I think one of the reasons people are calling the TSX "a 4-door RSX" to replace the 4-door Integra is because the only 4-cylinder Acuras have ever been Integras/RSXs. (Remember the 4-cyl appeal issue I've been harping about?) It also helps that particular case that both use the new K-series engines w/VTEC-i, although in reality both the displacement and the VTEC-i mechanisms are significantly different.

As somebody else noted, the successor to the Vigor is the 1st-gen TL. The Vigor has a longitudinal 5-cyl engine, as did the 2.5TL.

AcuraFan

The only 4 cylinder Acuras were Integras/RSXs? I thought the first gen CL had a 4 cylinder as well.

DtEW

Oh, right. Forgot. But people tend to remember the Integras. The CL's were never that big in the public consciousness, at least compared to the Integras. (No offense.)

AcuraFan

Point taken.

TinkySD

No one knows yet and the longer it goes without that info being released the more scared i get! The accord type-s in europe weighs in about 3050lbs, same as japan. I would expect the acura to probably weight well over 3100lbs approaching 3200lbs. It shoudl still perform decently well, but the lower they can keep the weight the better things will be.

AcuraFan

I'm just anxious to see performance stats on it. It's not going to be as fast as say a Accord V6 coupe 6sp but it should be pretty quick.

LegendC

Same car...

Acura 3.5 RL = Honda Legend

Six Shifter

The Legend was not built on any existing platform that Honda exported to the states. It was a new line, based on a new platform, trying to entice an entirely new segment of the population that wasn't interested in or otherwise wanted more than the Honda's of their day offered - although in Europe the cars were called Honda's. Lexus started the trend of offering upscale Toyotas (ES250 = Cambry), and Infinti ultimately followed suit (I30/I35 = Maxima). The M20 was an attempt to compete with the Legend Coupe, but it's boxy design didn't cut it.
ALSO, for those who don't recall, the engine/platform of the early generation Legend's were shared with the British built Sterlings, until they came out with the 827 (I believe it was). Sterling had a beautiful coupe design concept which really outshown the Legend, but they never built it. Remember, Acura's advertising of the late 80's read: Genuine Mercedes Replacement Part.