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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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so sad-classic car abuse

so ive been dating my girl for almost 2 years now and YESTERDAY i noticed that her neighbor has a corvette shaped cared covered in his driveway.

i asked if i could see the car and the guy said sure. unfortunately, when the cover came off i felt sick to my stomache.

the paint is nearly gone, the entire enterior is ripped, there is pollen on the inside of the car and the carpet is doo doo brown with what looks to be water damage.

so what is this car worth?

and what kind of vette is it

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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Wow, that is a sad, sad car. Flat tires and on steelies, too.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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1978 saw a 25th "Silver Anniversary" edition, the first Corvette Indy Pace Car, the introduction of a "fast back" glass rear window, and a new interior. The highest production number was in 1979, that lasted up to the C-5 model. In 1980, the Corvette received an integrated aerodynamic redesign that resulted in a significant reduction in drag. In 1982, an opening rear hatch was offered for the first time on the Corvette available on the Collectors Edition model only. A new engine featuring cross fire injection, a fuel injection carburetor hybrid, was also introduced that year as the L83. It was the only engine available in 1982, and was not offered with a manual transmission.

this car has a manual in it
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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1978 saw a 25th "Silver Anniversary" edition, the first Corvette Indy Pace Car, the introduction of a "fast back" glass rear window, and a new interior. The highest production number was in 1979, that lasted up to the C-5 model. In 1980, the Corvette received an integrated aerodynamic redesign that resulted in a significant reduction in drag. In 1982, an opening rear hatch was offered for the first time on the Corvette available on the Collectors Edition model only. A new engine featuring cross fire injection, a fuel injection carburetor hybrid, was also introduced that year as the L83. It was the only engine available in 1982, and was not offered with a manual transmission.

this car has a manual in it


It's not a pace car. This is a pace car:




The one you posted looks more like an '82 with a body kit.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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looks like none of the 82 collectors editions came with a manual
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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That looks like a late C3, '80 or '81. Its only a '82 if it has Crossfire Injection badges on it. Its got all the mid-80's style junk on it, like the hood, front air dam, and ancient Enkei wheels. Looks like the cover went on it in the Reagan era.

Its worthless, except for whatever you could get by parting it out.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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yea. it has the crossfire badges on the passenger side
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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So sad
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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I can't see the car too clearly, but it appears to be a 1982 Collector's Edition CF. Look for an all silver interior and CE badging in the interior. I think I can see a fadeout treatment along the bottom door which would also signify a CE car.

Unfortunately, the car was treated to a mid eighties styling treatment. Hood, Enkei wheels, front valance, and all the rest of that crap. As the car sits, no more than $5000.00 dollars.

http://www.nadaguides.com/default.as...vi=66613&da=-1

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I should clarify my reasoning of no more than $5000.00 dollars. Appraisal guides for collector cars don't often reflect actual values in the marketplace. They can be extremely soft sometimes, and entirely unrealistic in other situations. For example, the last two years have seen a strong rise in values for Ford special interest, while other brands have fallen noticeably. The pricing for the CE Corvette is, however, what they have been trading for.

So basically you take the lowest value listed in drivable condition, in this case around $13 000.00, and determine how much it would cost to bring the car up to this value. In this instance I would think around $8000-$10 000 providing the body isn't hardened and the engine spins by hand. Thus $5000 added to $8000 is $13 000.00, with an extra $2000 being how much you want the car. These values reflect you doing the work yourself and using reproduction parts.


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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Are my eyes deceiving me, or does the front plate say, "N 2 Deep"?

Classy.




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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Looks like a Corvette Summer reject.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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looks like it could be a fun project.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMirror
That looks like a late C3, '80 or '81. Its only a '82 if it has Crossfire Injection badges on it. Its got all the mid-80's style junk on it, like the hood, front air dam, and ancient Enkei wheels. Looks like the cover went on it in the Reagan era.

Its worthless, except for whatever you could get by parting it out.
LOL...

You hit it dead on as this thing is so 80's the first thing it reminded me it should be on is "Miami Vice"
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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My wifes grandmother has one like that sitting in her back yard. The windows are always down and the dog uses it as a hide away when it rains... I almost cried the first time I saw it.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Ouch that hurts the eyes.

Somebody needs to put some TLC in that thing and bring it back to life asap.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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owner should be shot... that thing should at least be inside the garage and cleaned a bit...

looks like a great project if there was no rust... but being in ATL, most likely the body is perfect...
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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owner should be shot... that thing should at least be inside the garage and cleaned a bit...

looks like a great project if there was no rust... but being in ATL, most likely the body is perfect...
aren't these cars fiberglass?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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how do peopl let these cars sit like this?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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aren't these cars fiberglass?
why yes, and plastic.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Rather spend the money elsewhere...

Isnt this vette the bastard child of all the generations?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Rather spend the money elsewhere...

Isnt this vette the bastard child of all the generations?
The '68 - '73 C3 Corvettes can be worth a good bit of coin with the right engine, options, and condition, but the '74 - 82 C3's have very very soft collector values.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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I say offer $500, and have a great project. The body, from the one photo, looks straight. I'd put it in the garage and fix it in my spare time.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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sad thing is that there is enough cars like this just sitting around ..
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Seriously phee, don't even think about buying that thing.

Here's a comparable on offer for $5,000. It would probably take you twice that just to equal or better this condition.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...te/925479.html
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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how do peopl let these cars sit like this?
You'd be absolutely surprised what sits around in back alleys and garages. Throughout the years I've seen some stuff that would shock you. And the stories are just as interesting as the cars.


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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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yea. im gunna stay away from this one due to the auto tragic. seems like they were unreliable.

checking these out now
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/1401320084.html

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/1405020124.html
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by phee
yea. im gunna stay away from this one due to the auto tragic. seems like they were unreliable.

checking these out now
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/1401320084.html

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/1405020124.html
Most have now been converted to carburetor as opposed the the quasi-fuel injection. It was actually nothing more than an upside down sprinkler. Some aspects are kind of interesting on them, such as the fiberglass rear spring. They were standard on all '82s, although I seem to recall a few '81 Corvettes were also built with the same rear structure.


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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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is there any car you dont know about?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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That's sad. I used to really like those Vettes, cause I'm a sucker for t-tops. but it looks like they slapped on a ricer body kit on it, because there isn't a snowflake's chance in hell that C3 Corvettes came with a front bumper like that from the factory.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by phee
is there any car you dont know about?
My primary interests are Shelby/Ford and the older Ferraris. Being active in the collector car hobby, however, I've picked up on a few things. There are many others who know far more than I do and can rattle off engine and build codes in their sleep.


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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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how about those datsuns i posted?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by phee
how about those datsuns i posted?
Not much. I know that most enthusiasts consider the 240 to be the purist of them all, but the 260 and 280 also have a following. Unfortunately, most of the early Z cars rusted away long before the mechanicals gave up, and can be expensive to repair. I've seen a number of aftermarket parts, including sheet metal for them, but don't know about the quality. I do know that most people run away from the fiberglass replacement panels that are offered.

What sort of car are you looking for? Are you looking for a project that needs a full restoration? Or are you looking for something that can be driven and enjoyed while fixing it up? It's best to familiarize yourself with a particular car or brand, learning the particular model(s) as best you can. Years produced, trim and engine choices, and equipment packages exclusive to that model. I prefer a car with good sheet metal and minimal rust repair. Body repair can be expensive and time consuming, and it's of my opinion that any car that requires extensive metal replacement detracts from it's originality.

Mechanical repairs or restorations aren't that difficult with a little patience and time. And parts are generally available. That being said, you need to determine if you want to restore your car with NOS (new old stock) components or equipment from a vendor specializing in aftermarket parts. The difference is primarily price, and whether you have the desire to keep your car as true to original as you can.

So basically, find something that interests you and have the ability to work on. Or have the desire to learn. It doesn't need to be expensive or exotic, just something that YOU like. The collector market is a little soft at the moment, and there are decent deals to be had.


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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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im looking for a RWD project car that i can take to the track now and then. it doesnt have to run or or look good.

but id prefer that it ran

but i want to step outside of the box from most guys my age, i dont want a 240 because they are all too commong.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by phee
im looking for a RWD project car that i can take to the track now and then. it doesnt have to run or or look good.

but id prefer that it ran

but i want to step outside of the box from most guys my age, i dont want a 240 because they are all too commong.

Are you referring to the SX? The 240Z, especially in nice shape, is a rare find.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...num=2&ct=image



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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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ahhh. yes. the 240z is an impossible find. and most of them are in excellent condition and $$$. i want something i can work on.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 02:24 AM
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I like the old school Z's especially the 300ZX 86-88, TURBO, maybe because my dad had one.....awesome car.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 03:28 AM
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I think I have one that beats yours, phee, although it still pains me to see cars of any kind abused like that.

As many of you know, I like DeLoreans. There are always the garage and barn finds but this DeLorean falls under the ultra-rare forest find. You read right...FOREST. This DeLorean has been sitting in the forests of northern California since 1997 and whoever owns it has gone out of their way to conceal it. It's about 30 feet from the nearest road on the other side of a creek. The DeLorean Forum I'm also on is attempting to locate the owner and save the car. I wish them luck...strap on your nasty goggles because here comes some serious .







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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Psh.

ONR and a MF towel....that'll be good to go.
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