sixgearcl

i just got back from the honda dealer... my bestfriend bought an 05 s2k...

the car is hot.... The handling is beyond awesome....

not enough torque... i was dissapointed. on the way back we kinda raced from light to light and my cl was clearly beasting its way past him.

the car isnt worth $ 32,000.00

hes coming the the NY meet with me on sat....

CrockPot

kinda? clearly? if he WAS racing you he would have 1) spanked you from a dig, 2) been really stupid with a brand new car.

sixgearcl

its a lease dude.. he doesnt car....

he couldnt pass me though....

were talkin like 3 block sprints.... we're gonna try the highway tommorow...

J.T.'s 3.2CL

The S2k is not made just for straight line performance. Go to a road coarse and he will easily spank you. It's worth every bit of $32000 and can outperform cars costing twice that.

Crazy Bimmer

Wait till he gets comfortable with the car, then race him. Should be close.

BC2G

or dont.. and maintain that u have beaten him

dabuda

shouldve broken it in first

bulldawg

My Bro owns an 2000 S2K, the cars sheer performance and speed are beyond compare to a CL-S. Your freind probably wasn't comfortable with the car yet, He just got it right??? Give him a while and all you'll be seeing is his tail pipe.

And FYI, at $32K the S2K is a bargain in the automotive world considering its performance.
S2K=true sports car
CL-S=Luxury Semi-Sporty 2+2nCoupe

pimpscls

s2k should beat your from a dig man for sure, and the handling no doubt is probably one the best yet

sixgearcl

i guess so... has anyone else here driven it??

the car doesnt produce any noticable torque until about 6.5-7k rpms...

im used to the cl beasting forward....

hes gonna put an intake tommorow just before the NY meet!!!!!

i'll see some of you guys there

sixgearcl

its a lease.... plus another friend works in honda service... he'll get it warrantied...

anyone wanna buy a used 05 s2k in about 3 years??? j/k

chef chris

Why is it worth so much?

Can't be the engine, it's nothing new. It's not turbo'd, so there's no additional cost there. There's no mass of carbon-fiber panels or special metals used for the rims(ie: magnesium/titanium). It's not filled with amenities to jack up the price, only has 2 seats to cover with the leather interior, etc. Doesn't have an expensively-engineered automatic removeable hardtop. No Navi components. Last, but not least, it does not contain expensive automatic transmissions or additional front-wheel drive components.

So, it's only worth $32K if your priority is to drive well on winding roads. Honda definitely could be charging much less for what it is, a go-cart convertible. If you're old enough, you may remember the introduction of the Miata which started out at about half the price it is today and only increased because it was a nitch product, simiar to the S.

heyitsme

Its more like an upscale miata imo, nice car, fun to drive out of town. 32k seems fair for any convertible that can run 14's. Drag racing it seems kinda rediculous considering what has to be done to the car to get those low 14's-clutch drops.

O-Town_TypeS

Coming from a CLS to an 04 sk2 I can honestly say the s2k is faster.

#1 he hasn't broken it in (s2k's will increase power up to 10k or more miles)

#2 to get a good launch from a stop you need to drop the clutch at 5 or 6k

#3 the 04 and 05's you can feel noticable torque from about 3 -3.5k rpms not 6.5. Hell VTEC kicks in at 6k and if you can't feel it then there is a problem with the car.

on that note...WHY THE HELL IS HE REVING THAT HIGH WHEN IT'S NOT BROKEN IN!!!

O-Town_TypeS

Actually some people have gotten as low at 13.7 on a stock s2k.

But it's not made for straight lines.

And it's much more than an upscale miata :P

BC2G

how much for the spoon s2k

O-Town_TypeS

The car is definatly worth the price.

The engine...squeeze 240hp out of a 2.0L 9000k rpm motor N/A stock is a feat (04 and 05's have 240 with 2.2L but more low end power)

As for the roof (who cares about expensively-engineered HEAVY ASS ROOF

The car is made for the track right out of the box. Honda spent a lot of money engineering the car. The car will outperform many cars much higher in price. The price isnt in the looks or amenities...its for the performance.

sixgearcl

im sure the car doesnt cost much to make.... most of the 32,000 is to increase profits because they're are few made and im sure they spent more money developing the car... (engineering and concepts)
alos the engine has a bunch of features (flat pistons, friction reducing coatings, and some other bull shit i want listening to)
im not knockin the car its hott but 32k id rateher get something with navi.... no flame intended

chef chris

Agreed.

dallison

32k sounds like a decent price for a new s2k

O-Town_TypeS

I didn't take it as a flame...but also as for it not being much to make consider the fact that they are hand assembled as well. Most of the parts are mass produced however the process of building the car is by hand. Well atleast they were when they were manfucatured at the Takanezawa plant...along with the NSX and the Hybrids. That plant is closed and now they are built at the Suzuka plant. The process may have changed.

03typeS6spd

whether it is a lease or not, breaking the car in incorrectly will hurt his own performance, and screw over someone who wants to buy the car later

03typeS6spd

Nothing new??? the 2.2L is only in its second year... it isn't turboed but compared to the miata why should it be? it puts out the same torque as the miata and way more horsepower than the miata (which of course is turbo'ed)...

the 04 rims are actually decently lite, and they have 215's and 245's offset in the rear, which is way better than the 205 all the way around on the miata, the hood is aluminum and very light...

it doesn't have any amenities but it only comes in one trim level, very normal for honda, which does include 17's, hids, fastest production vert top ever, and a short throw six??? what would you want navi slowing you down for in a car that only weighs 28xx lbs???

the miata is a piece of shit compared to the s2k, not that i have anything against the miata, they are great cars for the nitch they fill, but they don't have the muscle to hang with the s2k other than the fact that from 100 yards and squinting they could pass for each other...

30k (what i paid for mine new in 04) for the performance the s2k gives is a steal, the cl certainly feels like a giant pig after driving it....

until you drive an s2k, don't knock it, and if you don't know how to drive it, again don't talk about what the car can and can't do

driven properly... and that really only takes a week at most, that car will surprise almost anyone, despite it having "no torque" it will smoke the cl from a dig...

03typeS6spd

evilone

yea liqice just a bought a new dope 04 s2k... i love that damm car

98CLChick

The S2k is not meant to be a "luxury" car, it's meant to be a sports car for enthusiasts. Appreciate it for what it is.

I personally thought the car was a complete blast to drive.

joedokes28

I'll take 2 please.

FunkeeTown

they lowered the red line to 8000 from 9 on the 2005's. my buddy just got the 01 and it's so playa. anthracite with red seats. plus you sit really low in the car so you get that hot rod look with just your head peaking out over the side of the door. those things haul ass. 13.8 second quarter out of the box...torque or not, that's fast. yeah, it's small as shit, no trunk space...hell not even a glove box but the big red start button and short shift six speed tranny with digital gauges make up for it. vtec kicking in at 6500 rpm...how would you guys like that on your cls?

FunkeeTown

and it ain't no miata.

chef chris

I have driven it, was going to buy a new 03. Took it on a 3 day test-drive. But was very dissapointed in the lack of umph.

03typeS6spd

well in that case, sorry, the 03's are a bit more on/off than the 04-05's

plus i didn't dare break 6k until I had 500 miles on the car... I really think it got more powerful as I put miles on mine...

PavDog

The s2k spanks w/the supercharger. Too bad it doesn't have more stock performance tho. What's the new HP #? Like 240 now?

F23A4

I havent driven the 2.2L S2k but have driven my friend's 00 S2K and found that it'really a beast. However, you do have to keep it in VTEC in order to extract any kind of performance. Driven hard, that thing has some serious topend.

Would I pay $32G for it?? No. Convertible aside, I'd rather get a G35C 6MT (probably used) which does a great job of combining luxury and sport in one package. However, I'd get the S2k over a 350Z ANY DAY; and I'm a Nissan guy.

Sidenote: My friend ran a 13.9 sec ET in stock trim (Etown) so it can do the straightline thing pretty well, when pushed.

chef chris

The car I drove was a salesmans demo, it had about 3K on the clock. Just wasn't my cup of tea.

Now, maybe I'd pick one up used as a second car & tinker with it. You can pick up a clean used model for about $20K+ with low miles.

03typeS6spd

perhaps the salesman didn't break it in properly? i have only driven a modded pre-04 and it was fast, the 04 never seemed to have the lack of torque everyone complains about in that car, it isn't overwhelming by any stretch, but get the rpms up and you would never know the difference...


agreed, they really do have endless mod choices for that car, for a couple grand you could lay down 300 to the wheels rwd and control it

03typeS6spd

and the s2k doesn't really compare to the g35/Cl/350z imo, it is a different kind of car for a different lifestyle, one that doesn't involve children, pets, major purchases, groceries, bad weather, friends (other than those who also own one), etc.

but damn it was fun

chef chris

I was browsing the Spoon site when I had the car for the weekend...I could definitely see my paychecks going up in smoke if I bought the S2000.

sixgearcl

ehhh....

i'd rather spend 32k on a car that has..... say..... a glovebox!!!

im prolly just hating cuz he has one and i dont... but the whole shit is, he doesnt have a beater. nor does he intend on buying one!!!!!
htf is he gonna drive in the winter???? im sure that car is beyond terrible in the snow... salt is gonna stain the top.... thats gonna suck major ass

03typeS6spd

if he doesn't have a garage and a set of rims with tires for the weather below 40F good luck!

who needs a glove box :P

Moodist

iTrader: (2)

he should probably invest in a hardtop and a winter tire setup