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Old 01-09-2009, 01:00 AM
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RWD (Sport) Sedans w/ Manual Transmissions

Help me out here. I'm thinking about what my next car will be, whenever the time comes to get rid of my current car. Please post all sedans that are RWD which come with manual transmissions.

I don't want to know about any AWD or FWD cars.

3 rules to keep in mind when posting:

1. Car HAS to be RWD only.
2. Do not post any coupes.
3. Car HAS to have a manual transmission.

Just to start the thread off, I will post a few which come to mind:

1. Infiniti G37
2. Lexus IS250
3. BMW 3-series
4. BMW 5-series

What other cars am I missing?
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M5. :wink:
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Pontiac G8
Cadillac CTS,CTS-V
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Only the G8 GXP will have a manual if I remember correctly.
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i still like the IS300's though.
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Originally Posted by tmnhs81
M5. :wink:
. But I know I'll never be able to afford one of these.

Originally Posted by TheMirror
Pontiac G8
Cadillac CTS,CTS-V
I won't be able to own a CTS-V either since it's very pricey.
Old 01-09-2009, 01:17 AM
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something used?

My friends former 2002 540 6spd was a GREAT car.
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^^^Used is fine. Let's keep 'em coming!
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M3 Sedan for me.

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+1 for the 540i/6.

Go test drive one and you won't look back.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
. But too expensive.

Originally Posted by FastAcura
+1 for the 540i/6.

Go test drive one and you won't look back.
I agree. I'd love to own one of these. But the reliability is what scares me about Bimmers.
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JCE10L (00-05) Lexus IS300, albeit only the 2002-2005 cars were available with manual trans.

Cheap, reliable, great handling and refinement, styling, etc.
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i dunno how you feel about the MB C300's but its slower than your TL-S though.
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Agree with G8. that car is looks aggresive<----(spell check )
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And you didn't mention hoe much money you want to spend.
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^^^I meant HOW.

sorry.

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And a huge for IS300. that car still looks awesome.
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http://jalopnik.com/5094964/2009-pon...xp-first-drive

Just give it a drive and let us know. Either way, at least you'll have an idea of what else is out there. God knows I can't afford one.
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Another vote for the 540i/6. The E39 was a great sports-sedan but I'm a little biased. But even BETTER, I would go for an E39 M5 which is a terrific value on the used car market currently. One test drive and you'll be in love, I promise.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...7&rdpage=thumb

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=8

Keep in mind that in general, the e39 M has proven to be fairly reliable comparable to other Bimmers or cars in it's price range (e55) having spent some time now on the m5board and speaking from personal experience.

My second vote goes to the G8 GXP.

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M5 or g8
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
Another vote for the 540i/6. The E39 was a great sports-sedan but I'm a little biased. But even BETTER, I would go for an E39 M5 which is a terrific value on the used car market currently. One test drive and you'll be in love, I promise.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...7&rdpage=thumb

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=8

Keep in mind that in general, the e39 M has proven to be fairly reliable comparable to other Bimmers or cars in it's price range (e55) having spent some time now on the m5board and speaking from personal experience.

My second vote goes to the G8 GXP.
...and another vote for the IS300 only if modding (particularly forced induction) is in the cards.
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
Another vote for the 540i/6. The E39 was a great sports-sedan but I'm a little biased. But even BETTER, I would go for an E39 M5 which is a terrific value on the used car market currently. One test drive and you'll be in love, I promise.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...7&rdpage=thumb

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=8

Keep in mind that in general, the e39 M has proven to be fairly reliable comparable to other Bimmers or cars in it's price range (e55) having spent some time now on the m5board and speaking from personal experience.

My second vote goes to the G8 GXP.

^^

Those M5's are cool. And affordable too.
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What is your budget?
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the 07+ G sport sedans are alotta fun
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Originally Posted by tmnhs81
Agree with G8. that car is looks aggresive<----(spell check )
"aggressive"

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^^^I meant HOW. sorry.


Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
http://jalopnik.com/5094964/2009-pon...xp-first-drive

Just give it a drive and let us know. Either way, at least you'll have an idea of what else is out there. God knows I can't afford one.
I would seriously consider that car, but handling isn't as good as I'd expect/like, and the gas mileage isn't very good, either. But sheer straight-line speed on that thing is awesome, I bet.

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What is your budget?
In the mid $30's, at most.
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G8 GXP when it comes out. I'm already planning about 3 or 4 years ahead when I can find a low mileage preowned one to rock. I never ever thought I'd be interested in a Pontiac, but I can't not want that car.
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Originally Posted by TheMirror
JCE10L (00-05) Lexus IS300, albeit only the 2002-2005 cars were available with manual trans.

Cheap, reliable, great handling and refinement, styling, etc.
On those, I like the current body-style better.

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i dunno how you feel about the MB C300's but its slower than your TL-S though.
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Originally Posted by SuperTrooper169
G8 GXP when it comes out. I'm already planning about 3 or 4 years ahead when I can find a low mileage preowned one to rock. I never ever thought I'd be interested in a Pontiac, but I can't not want that car.
It's definitely something I will consider.
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In your price range the G37 will give you the most for your money, in particular when you factor in reliability and cost of ownership. 540's sound great until you have to live with one, some are great and rarely need work, others are a down right nightmare, to me, it's not worth the risk. If you don't mind sacrificing some power, a 328 can be had with better quality interior trim(when premium pack. equipped) factor in the no charge maintenance and it is a pretty nice package.
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Out of those, the G37 would be your best bet. Going from a TL-S to a IS250 would be a huge step backwards. Just because the IS250 is RWD doesn't make it a better car. Its about the same weight as the TL, has a much less potent engine, and if you're bored driving the S then I wouldn't even consider a Lexus.

3 or 5 would be great, but they're somewhat pricey unless you end up going used, then theres the whole uncomfort of owning a used bimmer. However, preowned 335's seem to be in the low to mid 30's though....hard deal to pass up since its in your price range and would ultimately be the best car to get.
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Originally Posted by princelybug
It's definitely something I will consider.
Depending on your timeline, only the G35/37, G8 GXP (there is no manual option for the G8 GT), BMW 335i and CTS will be cars with manual transmissions and warranties within a mid-$30K price range, more likely used than new.

Try out the manual versions before buying as well to see if you like it compared to the auto version, because some of the manuals trans versions don't feel particularly good.
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G8 GXP! You gotta love Pontiac's bastard step-child from down under. My friend just got an '07 G8 GT (auto) and has only put CAI and did a gear swap and runs 12.7 in the 1/4 mile.

The Gxp is even stronger and the 6-speed manual is out for 2009!

Good luck with whatever you chose...

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my vote goes to the G37
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
Depending on your timeline, only the G35/37, G8 GXP (there is no manual option for the G8 GT), BMW 335i and CTS will be cars with manual transmissions and warranties within a mid-$30K price range, more likely used than new.

Try out the manual versions before buying as well to see if you like it compared to the auto version, because some of the manuals trans versions don't feel particularly good.
if you drive a manual car already, you won't ever think a auto is better.
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
Try out the manual versions before buying as well to see if you like it compared to the auto version, because some of the manuals trans versions don't feel particularly good.
You are right on there. The stock shifter in my '06 GTO was crap. Long and loose throws. One of my first mods was a GMM race shifter. Now the throws are short, tight a notchy.

If you are going to drag race a high HP RWD car, the auto will give you a better launch and 60' time, but to me it is more fun to bang the gears myself.

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2003-2005 330i ZHP came in 6 speed. There's a chance you could find one with a bit of CPO warranty left too.
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New C300 sport can be had with 6-speed also. Not sure if you'd want to spend that much though.

IS250 You did say "sport" didn't you?
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i was surprised how rough the ride is on the IS250. I drove my parent's for like 2 weeks, and it wasn't nearly as soft as the ES or GS's i've driven.

I didn't really drive fast, or 'test' the handling, but just driving down the freeway, I was surprised it was kinda bumpy. It might be down to the fact that it had the optional 18" wheels...

if the point of having a sedan is for room though, I'm not sure i'd recommend the IS though. The back seats are pretty cramped, even with me driving at 5'7".
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