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princelybug 01-09-2009 01:00 AM

RWD (Sport) Sedans w/ Manual Transmissions
 
Help me out here. I'm thinking about what my next car will be, whenever the time comes to get rid of my current car. Please post all sedans that are RWD which come with manual transmissions.

I don't want to know about any AWD or FWD cars.

3 rules to keep in mind when posting:

1. Car HAS to be RWD only.
2. Do not post any coupes.
3. Car HAS to have a manual transmission.

Just to start the thread off, I will post a few which come to mind:

1. Infiniti G37
2. Lexus IS250
3. BMW 3-series
4. BMW 5-series

What other cars am I missing?

tmnhs81 01-09-2009 01:01 AM

M5. :wink:

TheMirror 01-09-2009 01:04 AM

Pontiac G8
Cadillac CTS,CTS-V

Sarlacc 01-09-2009 01:06 AM

Only the G8 GXP will have a manual if I remember correctly.

asianspec 01-09-2009 01:07 AM

i still like the IS300's though.

princelybug 01-09-2009 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by tmnhs81 (Post 10372254)
M5. :wink:

:thumbsup:. But I know I'll never be able to afford one of these.


Originally Posted by TheMirror (Post 10372265)
Pontiac G8
Cadillac CTS,CTS-V

I won't be able to own a CTS-V either since it's very pricey.

Sarlacc 01-09-2009 01:17 AM

something used?

My friends former 2002 540 6spd was a GREAT car.

princelybug 01-09-2009 01:22 AM

^^^Used is fine. Let's keep 'em coming!

Sly Raskal 01-09-2009 01:36 AM

M3 Sedan for me.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...n/Default.aspx

FastAcura 01-09-2009 01:48 AM

+1 for the 540i/6.

Go test drive one and you won't look back.

princelybug 01-09-2009 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by Sly Raskal (Post 10372351)

:wish:. But too expensive.


Originally Posted by FastAcura (Post 10372413)
+1 for the 540i/6.

Go test drive one and you won't look back.

I agree. I'd love to own one of these. But the reliability is what scares me about Bimmers.

TheMirror 01-09-2009 02:08 AM

JCE10L (00-05) Lexus IS300, albeit only the 2002-2005 cars were available with manual trans.

Cheap, reliable, great handling and refinement, styling, etc.

asianspec 01-09-2009 02:13 AM

i dunno how you feel about the MB C300's but its slower than your TL-S though.

JS + XES 01-09-2009 02:21 AM

G8

tmnhs81 01-09-2009 02:50 AM

Agree with G8. that car is looks aggresive<----(spell check :tongue: )

tmnhs81 01-09-2009 02:52 AM

And you didn't mention hoe much money you want to spend.

tmnhs81 01-09-2009 02:53 AM

^^^I meant HOW. :pofl:

sorry.

tmnhs81 01-09-2009 02:55 AM

And a huge :werd: for IS300. that car still looks awesome.

Costco 01-09-2009 03:18 AM

http://jalopnik.com/5094964/2009-pon...xp-first-drive

Just give it a drive and let us know. Either way, at least you'll have an idea of what else is out there. God knows I can't afford one. :(

nokiaman 01-09-2009 06:21 AM

Another vote for the 540i/6. The E39 was a great sports-sedan but I'm a little biased.:blush: But even BETTER, I would go for an E39 M5 which is a terrific value on the used car market currently. One test drive and you'll be in love, I promise.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...7&rdpage=thumb

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=8

Keep in mind that in general, the e39 M has proven to be fairly reliable comparable to other Bimmers or cars in it's price range (e55) having spent some time now on the m5board and speaking from personal experience.

My second vote goes to the G8 GXP.

phil2 01-09-2009 06:36 AM

M5 or g8

F23A4 01-09-2009 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by nokiaman (Post 10372641)
Another vote for the 540i/6. The E39 was a great sports-sedan but I'm a little biased.:blush: But even BETTER, I would go for an E39 M5 which is a terrific value on the used car market currently. One test drive and you'll be in love, I promise.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...7&rdpage=thumb

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=8

Keep in mind that in general, the e39 M has proven to be fairly reliable comparable to other Bimmers or cars in it's price range (e55) having spent some time now on the m5board and speaking from personal experience.

My second vote goes to the G8 GXP.

:agree: ...and another vote for the IS300 only if modding (particularly forced induction) is in the cards.

Bearcat94 01-09-2009 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by nokiaman (Post 10372641)
Another vote for the 540i/6. The E39 was a great sports-sedan but I'm a little biased.:blush: But even BETTER, I would go for an E39 M5 which is a terrific value on the used car market currently. One test drive and you'll be in love, I promise.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...7&rdpage=thumb

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=8

Keep in mind that in general, the e39 M has proven to be fairly reliable comparable to other Bimmers or cars in it's price range (e55) having spent some time now on the m5board and speaking from personal experience.

My second vote goes to the G8 GXP.


^^

Those M5's are cool. And affordable too. :thumbsup:

Blazing GT 01-09-2009 09:48 AM

What is your budget?

mreh 01-09-2009 10:17 AM

the 07+ G sport sedans are alotta fun

princelybug 01-09-2009 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by tmnhs81 (Post 10372525)
Agree with G8. that car is looks aggresive<----(spell check :tongue: )

"aggressive"


Originally Posted by tmnhs81 (Post 10372529)
^^^I meant HOW. :pofl:sorry.

:tomato:


Originally Posted by I Go To Costco (Post 10372559)
http://jalopnik.com/5094964/2009-pon...xp-first-drive

Just give it a drive and let us know. Either way, at least you'll have an idea of what else is out there. God knows I can't afford one. :(

I would seriously consider that car, but handling isn't as good as I'd expect/like, and the gas mileage isn't very good, either. But sheer straight-line speed on that thing is awesome, I bet.


Originally Posted by Blazing GT (Post 10373058)
What is your budget?

In the mid $30's, at most.

SuperTrooper169 01-09-2009 11:17 AM

G8 GXP when it comes out. I'm already planning about 3 or 4 years ahead when I can find a low mileage preowned one to rock. I never ever thought I'd be interested in a Pontiac, but I can't not want that car.

princelybug 01-09-2009 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by TheMirror (Post 10372468)
JCE10L (00-05) Lexus IS300, albeit only the 2002-2005 cars were available with manual trans.

Cheap, reliable, great handling and refinement, styling, etc.

On those, I like the current body-style better.


Originally Posted by asianspec (Post 10372472)
i dunno how you feel about the MB C300's but its slower than your TL-S though.

:thumbsdow, J.

princelybug 01-09-2009 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by SuperTrooper169 (Post 10373382)
G8 GXP when it comes out. I'm already planning about 3 or 4 years ahead when I can find a low mileage preowned one to rock. I never ever thought I'd be interested in a Pontiac, but I can't not want that car.

It's definitely something I will consider.

iTimmy 01-09-2009 11:38 AM

In your price range the G37 will give you the most for your money, in particular when you factor in reliability and cost of ownership. 540's sound great until you have to live with one, some are great and rarely need work, others are a down right nightmare, to me, it's not worth the risk. If you don't mind sacrificing some power, a 328 can be had with better quality interior trim(when premium pack. equipped) factor in the no charge maintenance and it is a pretty nice package.

FiveLiterCheater 01-09-2009 12:27 PM

Out of those, the G37 would be your best bet. Going from a TL-S to a IS250 would be a huge step backwards. Just because the IS250 is RWD doesn't make it a better car. Its about the same weight as the TL, has a much less potent engine, and if you're bored driving the S then I wouldn't even consider a Lexus. :2cents:

3 or 5 would be great, but they're somewhat pricey unless you end up going used, then theres the whole uncomfort of owning a used bimmer. However, preowned 335's seem to be in the low to mid 30's though....hard deal to pass up since its in your price range and would ultimately be the best car to get.

Will Y. 01-09-2009 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by princelybug (Post 10373389)
It's definitely something I will consider.

Depending on your timeline, only the G35/37, G8 GXP (there is no manual option for the G8 GT), BMW 335i and CTS will be cars with manual transmissions and warranties within a mid-$30K price range, more likely used than new.

Try out the manual versions before buying as well to see if you like it compared to the auto version, because some of the manuals trans versions don't feel particularly good. :2cents:

Jabodacious 01-09-2009 12:35 PM

G8 GXP! You gotta love Pontiac's bastard step-child from down under. My friend just got an '07 G8 GT (auto) and has only put CAI and did a gear swap and runs 12.7 in the 1/4 mile.

The Gxp is even stronger and the 6-speed manual is out for 2009!

Good luck with whatever you chose...

Jabo

is300eater 01-09-2009 02:01 PM

my vote goes to the G37

Alperovich 01-09-2009 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Will Y. (Post 10373679)
Depending on your timeline, only the G35/37, G8 GXP (there is no manual option for the G8 GT), BMW 335i and CTS will be cars with manual transmissions and warranties within a mid-$30K price range, more likely used than new.

Try out the manual versions before buying as well to see if you like it compared to the auto version, because some of the manuals trans versions don't feel particularly good. :2cents:

if you drive a manual car already, you won't ever think a auto is better.

Jabodacious 01-09-2009 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Will Y. (Post 10373679)
Try out the manual versions before buying as well to see if you like it compared to the auto version, because some of the manuals trans versions don't feel particularly good. :2cents:

You are right on there. The stock shifter in my '06 GTO was crap. Long and loose throws. One of my first mods was a GMM race shifter. Now the throws are short, tight a notchy.

If you are going to drag race a high HP RWD car, the auto will give you a better launch and 60' time, but to me it is more fun to bang the gears myself.

:2cents:

Brandon24pdx 01-09-2009 03:28 PM

2003-2005 330i ZHP came in 6 speed. There's a chance you could find one with a bit of CPO warranty left too.

Brandon24pdx 01-09-2009 03:31 PM

New C300 sport can be had with 6-speed also. Not sure if you'd want to spend that much though.

IS250:spit: You did say "sport" didn't you?

Osamu 01-09-2009 04:09 PM

i was surprised how rough the ride is on the IS250. I drove my parent's for like 2 weeks, and it wasn't nearly as soft as the ES or GS's i've driven.

I didn't really drive fast, or 'test' the handling, but just driving down the freeway, I was surprised it was kinda bumpy. It might be down to the fact that it had the optional 18" wheels...

if the point of having a sedan is for room though, I'm not sure i'd recommend the IS though. The back seats are pretty cramped, even with me driving at 5'7".

myron 01-09-2009 04:15 PM

545 or 550 BOOM TITS ( I think those come with M/T)


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