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I still wouldn't buy new. Your options increase exponentially if you look for a used car.
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Originally Posted by TylerT
(Post 12575821)
Oh cmon, give the Avalon a test drive! :thumbsup: :tomato:
I rode in my boss's 2009 328i and it's exactly what I expected as far as power / ride comfort. Having personally driven and riden in both a AT / MT 3G TL-S, the TL-S would absolutely shit on the 328i. Acceleration: TL-S > 328i Top End: TL-S > 328i Handling: Could go either way, the TL-S isn't exactly a slouch in the corners. Brakes: TL-S > 328i Given your price range, the 335i seems to be the only car that meets your criteria that's in your price range for BMW. That's however if you aren't looking for old M3s, E39 540s / M5s :tongue:. I would look into a low mileage 1G CTS-V, powergains and the vast aftermarket makes it look real good. :wish:
Originally Posted by charliemike
(Post 12575890)
I still wouldn't buy new. Your options increase exponentially if you look for a used car.
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Whats the price range again? From the rate this thread is going you might be able to buy an 08 M3 sedan for under 40k in 2011...
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
(Post 12576069)
Whats the price range again? From the rate this thread is going you might be able to buy an 08 M3 sedan for under 40k in 2011...
My price range is < $40k. |
Originally Posted by princelybug
(Post 12576140)
I was actually just looking at those online, lol.
My price range is < $40k. |
RS4. :wish:
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Originally Posted by princelybug
(Post 12576189)
RS4. :wish:
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Originally Posted by princelybug
(Post 12576189)
RS4. :wish:
Read the thread, RWD only! :tomato: |
:tomato:
The RS4 is a car I can make an exception for, lol. |
Why can't the Infiniti G be more "refined"? :doh:
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Originally Posted by charliemike
(Post 12576195)
They are out there ... 2007s for under $40k for sure. If you're patient you might find a great one with decent miles.
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Originally Posted by princelybug
(Post 12576214)
Why can't the Infiniti G be more "refined"? :doh:
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I don't understand why the OP is still looking for a car a year later? Why not just buy the G37 S sedan and call it a day? Or the Genesis Sedan?
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Genesis Sedan is far from sporty compared to these other cars.
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
(Post 12576272)
Huh that will require true patience. RS4s have retained their value exceptionally well. Most models with 45k+ miles are around the $40k mark. A proper one under 30k still goes for 46~47k. Definitely worth a look though.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
(Post 12576535)
:confused:
Originally Posted by Eoanou
(Post 12577011)
I don't understand why the OP is still looking for a car a year later? Why not just buy the G37 S sedan and call it a day? Or the Genesis Sedan?
If the right car were to present itself, I'd buy it...hence, this thread. It might be another year before I actually make a move? :dunno: |
Are the 09 CTS-V near budget? Worthy contender as well.
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They seem to be selling in the mid 50's.
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Also, I wasn't able to find any manual CTS-V's. Maybe neuronbob can check in, but I surmise that there is a noticeable difference between the manual and auto tranny?
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Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the G8 GXP has that skip-shift "feature" needed to get not-so-horrible fuel economy numbers. I think it blocks out 2nd if you're between 20% and 60% throttle or something like that, so you go straight from 1st to 4th. Pretty annoying, I'd imagine. If you're seriously considering the G8, I'd see if there's a fix for that first.
It looks like it's slim pickings in the category of car you're looking for, and most, if not all cars that fit your criteria have been posted. I think now it's a matter of deciding which one you like the most and finding a suitable example. GL with your buy :thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by Aman
(Post 12577425)
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the G8 GXP has that skip-shift "feature" needed to get not-so-horrible fuel economy numbers. I think it blocks out 2nd if you're between 20% and 60% throttle or something like that, so you go straight from 1st to 4th. Pretty annoying, I'd imagine. If you're seriously considering the G8, I'd see if there's a fix for that first.
GL with your buy :thumbsup: roasting the tires ftw. |
Originally Posted by Aman
(Post 12577425)
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the G8 GXP has that skip-shift "feature" needed to get not-so-horrible fuel economy numbers. I think it blocks out 2nd if you're between 20% and 60% throttle or something like that, so you go straight from 1st to 4th. Pretty annoying, I'd imagine. If you're seriously considering the G8, I'd see if there's a fix for that first.
It looks like it's slim pickings in the category of car you're looking for, and most, if not all cars that fit your criteria have been posted. I think now it's a matter of deciding which one you like the most and finding a suitable example. GL with your buy :thumbsup: |
I'm biased, I hate BMW.
The lexus is a nice car for the 250 is VERY underpowered. It's a slug and just doesn't feel sporty. The G37 is without a doubt my choice, fast, great 6mt, looks aggressive as hell shares all it's parts with Zs. |
Originally Posted by princelybug
(Post 12577523)
Thanks, Aman. Yes, I have thought about that car. The "skip-shift" feature is present, but is easily defeated, based on the G8 forums I've browsed. The G8 GXP is definitely a possibility, but are non-existent in the for-sale market. I've looked plenty of times. The G8's that are up for sale are the GT's, with auto-tranny's.
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OP: If you will make an exception for an RS4, what about an S6? Those are 400HP plus and should come in around your price range.......?
Edit: Don't know if they have a manual as an option. |
Originally Posted by princelybug
(Post 12577121)
If it didn't have it's drivetrain vibration, it would be a more serious contender. Infiniti's just don't live up to the "quality" aspect like I expect a luxury brand to. However, of all the cars mentioned, the G does offer the best bargain, so it does merit some consideration.
...and don't discount a CPO 07-08 TL Type S. It may be FWD but Acura truly dialed that car in as close to RWD (in performance) as any other FWD sports sedan on the market. |
Originally Posted by F23A4
(Post 12577882)
:thumbsup: The question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you can live with that dancing (and less fluid than Honda) gearshift lever. If the value quotient is a strong consideration then the answer is probably yes. And as 4DGS mentioned earlier, many of the 370Z's 'go faster' parts can work with the G as well. (Not certain what's up with his BMW-hate but, I digress.)
...and don't discount a CPO 07-08 TL Type S. It may be FWD but Acura truly dialed that car in as close to RWD (in performance) as any other FWD sports sedan on the market. |
These are my choices:
'11 335i '11 G37 S '06 M5 All of which can go for 40K or less. |
I would love a 335i, but the base price with no options is a bit over $41k, if you can even find one. All of them come to the dealer with options stacked onto them.
I could special order one with no options, but that would take months from my initial order, and there would be no wiggle room to haggle on the price. |
Base BMWs are not worth it at all. I'd get a used 335i or nicely equipped 328i. I got mine for $38k.
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If I do get a 3-series, I want one with the N55.
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In that case you'd probably have to wait a year or two and get a good CPO example.
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Definitely 3-series.
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature..._3_series.html
Originally Posted by Automobile Magazine
As the car enters the sixth year in its current form, it still has no equal.
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If the Genesis sedan or 300C SRT8 came with manual trannies, I would consider them.
But...the intriguing future option as of right now is an ATS-V. :wish: |
Holy crap, thought you actually bought something!!
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lol
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:rofl:
Nope, I still have my TL. |
used BMW...
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:rofl: Now look what you did. Giving 6 viewing members disappointments.
I was gonna say the same thing you did about the 300C/Charger. I dunno about the ATS. It's still at least a year off, no? And then maybe another year before the V comes. |
I might just have to keep this thread going until then. :snicker:
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