Rsx?
Rsx?
Situation - have a 2006 TSX and think it is awesome. My job is changing and will require me to drive about 1 1/2 hours a day (temporary - will be driving that much for about a year). Found a killer deal on a 2005 RSX (base/auto) - thought that might be a good commuter car. Never driven one - how does it compare to the TSX. Just wanted to get some opinions before heading out to test drive it. Thanks!
^
my thoughts exactly.
nevertheless, a nice used car review here:
Used Vehicle Review:
Acura RSX, 2002-2006
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/cc/02-06rsx.htm
my thoughts exactly.
nevertheless, a nice used car review here:
Used Vehicle Review:
Acura RSX, 2002-2006
Introduced in 2001 as a 2002 model, the Acura RSX replaced the Integra, and it had a pretty simple mission - to provide the same big driving fun as the Integra did without costing a lot more money. While some have argued that the RSX was too grown up to be taken seriously as the Integra's successor, the RSX has won the hearts of many people who felt the Integra didn't hide it's Honda Civic-based roots well enough.
A new 2002 RSX did cost more than the outgoing Integra - by about six per cent on average - but what you got for the money made it worthwhile. The RSX was a more mature car - still quick, still sporting athletic lines, but a little more refined.
The RSX was available only with a two-door hatchback body style with a decent-sized, if shallow, cargo area. There was no RSX sedan, as there had been with the Integra. The TSX sedan, launched in 2004, was loosely regarded as a sedan companion to the RSX, though it is a much different car underneath.
When it was introduced, some criticized the RSX for being heavier than the Integra. Depending on how the car was optioned, it did indeed weigh between 50 and 100 kg more than the Integra, but for good reasons: improved sound deadening, a stiffer structure and excellent crash protection. The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration crash test results gave the RSX a five-star rating for the driver and front passenger in that organization's frontal crash test, and a four-star rating in side impact testing, results that put the RSX at the top of its class for crashworthiness. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety didn't test the RSX.
Like the Integra, the RSX was still based on the Civic (the seventh-generation model introduced in 2001) but it's tough to tell by looking at it, much less driving it. The Civic-based suspension set-up was tuned to give it a sportier feel, especially in the top-of-the-line Type-S model.
The 2002-2006 RSX was available in three flavours: base, premium and Type-S. All were very well equipped, featuring standard air conditioning, cruise control, and a CD stereo. As well driver, passenger and side airbags were standard on all models. ABS was available only on the Premium and Type-S models, as was a sunroof. Base models rode on 195/65R15 tires while the Premium and Type-S were fitted with 205/55R16s.
The Type-S featured a firmer suspension tuning than the lesser models, and also had thicker anti-roll bars to reduce body lean in turns. The Type-S is noticeably sportier and that firmer suspension also tends to make for a slightly noisier drive.
Base and premium models featured a 2.0 litre four cylinder engine equipped with i-VTEC (the "i" stands for intelligent), a more advanced version of Honda's well-known variable valve timing system. That engine produced 160 hp at 6,500 rpm and 141 lb-ft of torque at 4,000 rpm. The Type-S was powered by the same engine, but with stronger internal components and a more aggressive version of the i-VTEC system that boosted output to 200 hp at 7,400 rpm. Torque increased incrementally to 142 lb-ft at 6000 rpm.
The Type-S was only available with one transmission option - a six-speed manual. Base and Premium cars had a 5-speed manual as standard equipment, and a five-speed automatic with a manual-shift feature was optional.
In 2005, Type-S models got a 10-horsepower boost to 210, but new horsepower calculation standards introduced after that meant that 2006 models were rated at 201 horsepower, and non Type-S cars now had 155 horsepower instead of 160.
Both cars behave similarly in normal driving situations with good throttle response and mid-range torque, but the big difference between the base/Premium and the Type-S models came at higher engine speeds, when the more aggressive i-VTEC tuning came on line and the extra 40 hp really made itself apparent. The Type-S' close ratio six-speed gearbox was a good match for that model's high-revving engine, though its overall gearing is shorter, which means higher engine speeds in highway driving.
Depending on the model year, fuel consumption ranges from about 8.5 L/100 km (city) and 6.5 to 7 L/100 km (highway) for base models. Numbers for Type-S versions are more like 10 to 10.5 L/100 km (city) and 7 to 7.5 L/100 km (highway).
Side airbags were standard in all RSXs, but ABS was not available in base model cars until 2005, when it too became standard across the board. Traction/stability control was never on the menu at all.
The RSX's reliability history is generally solid, and most problems that do crop up, if posts on RSX-related web forums are any indication, have more to do with driver skill or hard driving than the robustness of the car. One common problem centres around the manual transmissions, and specifically, a grind when shifting from first to second gear. There are also reports of noisy front ends, and the electronic engine control units are apparently thief-bait in San Francisco, though there's little doubt this is common in other major cities, too. The common belief is that these units are stolen and sold to or used by Honda Civic drivers who have swapped an RSX-S motor into their car.
Consumer Reports lists the RSX as a recommended used car buy, but advises staying away from 2005 and 2006 models, which seem prone to suspension problems, though they don't go into detail.
The RSX commands fairly high prices in the used car marketplace thanks to Acura's (and parent company Honda's) reputation for building durable cars. According to the Canadian Red Book, a three-year-old 2002 RSX is worth $12,975, while a 2006 Type-S carries a value of $29,425. Despite Honda/Acura's reputation for commanding premium prices on the used market, it is possible to find examples selling for close to their Red Book values, but you have to look for them. For a price close to the magic $20,000 mark, look for a 2004 RSX Premium (which looked much like a Type-S but without the high-strung motor and six-speed tranny) or a 2003 Type-S.
Despite their relatively high resale values, the RSX represents an excellent choice as a used car for the buyer looking for a sporty ride. Perhaps the only caveat is that the RSX appeals to aggressive younger drivers, so it would be wise to have the car checked by a trusted mechanic before you buy to make sure it hasn't been abused.
A new 2002 RSX did cost more than the outgoing Integra - by about six per cent on average - but what you got for the money made it worthwhile. The RSX was a more mature car - still quick, still sporting athletic lines, but a little more refined.
The RSX was available only with a two-door hatchback body style with a decent-sized, if shallow, cargo area. There was no RSX sedan, as there had been with the Integra. The TSX sedan, launched in 2004, was loosely regarded as a sedan companion to the RSX, though it is a much different car underneath.
When it was introduced, some criticized the RSX for being heavier than the Integra. Depending on how the car was optioned, it did indeed weigh between 50 and 100 kg more than the Integra, but for good reasons: improved sound deadening, a stiffer structure and excellent crash protection. The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration crash test results gave the RSX a five-star rating for the driver and front passenger in that organization's frontal crash test, and a four-star rating in side impact testing, results that put the RSX at the top of its class for crashworthiness. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety didn't test the RSX.
Like the Integra, the RSX was still based on the Civic (the seventh-generation model introduced in 2001) but it's tough to tell by looking at it, much less driving it. The Civic-based suspension set-up was tuned to give it a sportier feel, especially in the top-of-the-line Type-S model.
The 2002-2006 RSX was available in three flavours: base, premium and Type-S. All were very well equipped, featuring standard air conditioning, cruise control, and a CD stereo. As well driver, passenger and side airbags were standard on all models. ABS was available only on the Premium and Type-S models, as was a sunroof. Base models rode on 195/65R15 tires while the Premium and Type-S were fitted with 205/55R16s.
The Type-S featured a firmer suspension tuning than the lesser models, and also had thicker anti-roll bars to reduce body lean in turns. The Type-S is noticeably sportier and that firmer suspension also tends to make for a slightly noisier drive.
Base and premium models featured a 2.0 litre four cylinder engine equipped with i-VTEC (the "i" stands for intelligent), a more advanced version of Honda's well-known variable valve timing system. That engine produced 160 hp at 6,500 rpm and 141 lb-ft of torque at 4,000 rpm. The Type-S was powered by the same engine, but with stronger internal components and a more aggressive version of the i-VTEC system that boosted output to 200 hp at 7,400 rpm. Torque increased incrementally to 142 lb-ft at 6000 rpm.
The Type-S was only available with one transmission option - a six-speed manual. Base and Premium cars had a 5-speed manual as standard equipment, and a five-speed automatic with a manual-shift feature was optional.
In 2005, Type-S models got a 10-horsepower boost to 210, but new horsepower calculation standards introduced after that meant that 2006 models were rated at 201 horsepower, and non Type-S cars now had 155 horsepower instead of 160.
Both cars behave similarly in normal driving situations with good throttle response and mid-range torque, but the big difference between the base/Premium and the Type-S models came at higher engine speeds, when the more aggressive i-VTEC tuning came on line and the extra 40 hp really made itself apparent. The Type-S' close ratio six-speed gearbox was a good match for that model's high-revving engine, though its overall gearing is shorter, which means higher engine speeds in highway driving.
Depending on the model year, fuel consumption ranges from about 8.5 L/100 km (city) and 6.5 to 7 L/100 km (highway) for base models. Numbers for Type-S versions are more like 10 to 10.5 L/100 km (city) and 7 to 7.5 L/100 km (highway).
Side airbags were standard in all RSXs, but ABS was not available in base model cars until 2005, when it too became standard across the board. Traction/stability control was never on the menu at all.
The RSX's reliability history is generally solid, and most problems that do crop up, if posts on RSX-related web forums are any indication, have more to do with driver skill or hard driving than the robustness of the car. One common problem centres around the manual transmissions, and specifically, a grind when shifting from first to second gear. There are also reports of noisy front ends, and the electronic engine control units are apparently thief-bait in San Francisco, though there's little doubt this is common in other major cities, too. The common belief is that these units are stolen and sold to or used by Honda Civic drivers who have swapped an RSX-S motor into their car.
Consumer Reports lists the RSX as a recommended used car buy, but advises staying away from 2005 and 2006 models, which seem prone to suspension problems, though they don't go into detail.
The RSX commands fairly high prices in the used car marketplace thanks to Acura's (and parent company Honda's) reputation for building durable cars. According to the Canadian Red Book, a three-year-old 2002 RSX is worth $12,975, while a 2006 Type-S carries a value of $29,425. Despite Honda/Acura's reputation for commanding premium prices on the used market, it is possible to find examples selling for close to their Red Book values, but you have to look for them. For a price close to the magic $20,000 mark, look for a 2004 RSX Premium (which looked much like a Type-S but without the high-strung motor and six-speed tranny) or a 2003 Type-S.
Despite their relatively high resale values, the RSX represents an excellent choice as a used car for the buyer looking for a sporty ride. Perhaps the only caveat is that the RSX appeals to aggressive younger drivers, so it would be wise to have the car checked by a trusted mechanic before you buy to make sure it hasn't been abused.
Thanks for posting the review - very helpful.
My wife will be driving the TSX - we really only have one car (we also have an SUV that I need to tow a boat - wouldn't want to drive it every day - too much gas).
I would just get a used Civic or equivalent, but since I am going to spending so much time in it I wanted to get something nicer (i.e. Acura). I figure I can always sell it after the year if I want to get something else.
My wife will be driving the TSX - we really only have one car (we also have an SUV that I need to tow a boat - wouldn't want to drive it every day - too much gas).
I would just get a used Civic or equivalent, but since I am going to spending so much time in it I wanted to get something nicer (i.e. Acura). I figure I can always sell it after the year if I want to get something else.
I went from an RSX to a TSX, and while I like the TSX, I loved the RSX. There was just something about that car that I adored. Handled great, was perfectly zippy for me as a new driver, and great on gas. I was sad to see Acura discontinue it. The car, with me at 5'8, was plenty generous in size, and I could fit almost all my dorm room into it with some careful packing. I never had a single issue with the car in the year I had it (40,000 miles), and it ran like a champ in any weather. I had tiptronic, or whatever Acura calls it, and it was fun to play around with, but I still had the auto when I got stuck in traffic.
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Originally Posted by synth19
imo, a nicer and more comfortable car is worth it for a long commute. Keep the TSX.
I drove a base auto rsx as a loaner when my CLS was getting worked on, and I thought it was a shitty little tinbox 
Of course I'm driving a CLS 6spd so there's a big difference between a MT car with 260hp and a car with a slushbox tranny with 160 hp...

Of course I'm driving a CLS 6spd so there's a big difference between a MT car with 260hp and a car with a slushbox tranny with 160 hp...
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
I drove a base auto rsx as a loaner when my CLS was getting worked on, and I thought it was a shitty little tinbox 
Of course I'm driving a CLS 6spd so there's a big difference between a MT car with 260hp and a car with a slushbox tranny with 160 hp...

Of course I'm driving a CLS 6spd so there's a big difference between a MT car with 260hp and a car with a slushbox tranny with 160 hp...
what a downgrade. The dealer here lent me a RSX-S MT for a loaner car for a week.
I couldn't wait to have my CL back. They're not bad cars, just small if you're 6 ft or over, and the seats felt like sitting on cartons. The type-S engine is pretty peppy though, I was kinda shocked. But I would never want to long haul it in that car, much less an auto base model
Originally Posted by afici0nad0
^
my thoughts exactly.
nevertheless, a nice used car review here:
Used Vehicle Review:
Acura RSX, 2002-2006
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/cc/02-06rsx.htm
my thoughts exactly.
nevertheless, a nice used car review here:
Used Vehicle Review:
Acura RSX, 2002-2006
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/cc/02-06rsx.htm
Like the Integra, the RSX was still based on the Civic (the seventh-generation model introduced in 2001) but it's tough to tell by looking at it,
The RSX is a fun car, but its NOISY as hell inside. The TSX is much quieter, still fun to drive and only slightly less fuel efficient. Most important of all, its cheaper to insure! The RSX is expensive in that regard. Keep your current car
Good feedback - thanks. We are keeping the TSX regardless - and I am looking for a commuter. The SUV is a 2002 4Runner - talk about a rough ride!! Rides like a truck - I really don't like to drive it because it seems so unstable compared to the TSX. I'm looking for something cheap - going to put a lot of miles on it (I found the RSX that I considered getting was in a collision). Ironically, I also have a Miata (90), but wouldn't want to commute in that - way too loud. So what is a good long distance commuter - cheap but with a good ride and decent handling??
Originally Posted by wiltok
So what is a good long distance commuter - cheap but with a good ride and decent handling??
Toyota Camry and Corolla are lower on the list since they are less responsive and have "softer" suspensions than the comparable Hondas. Possibly also Nissan Sentras, Altimas and Mazda 6s (which should be pretty inexpensive as a used car), but I don't have any experience with them.
^ Agree on the Accord 4-cylinder. It does get a little noisy (I have a 98) if you rev to pass. What I mean is that it's not the same guttural sound and visceral thrill that you get from powerful engine; it's just noisy. but nowhere near as bad as a Civic.
Originally Posted by wiltok
Good feedback - thanks. We are keeping the TSX regardless - and I am looking for a commuter. The SUV is a 2002 4Runner - talk about a rough ride!! Rides like a truck - I really don't like to drive it because it seems so unstable compared to the TSX. I'm looking for something cheap - going to put a lot of miles on it (I found the RSX that I considered getting was in a collision). Ironically, I also have a Miata (90), but wouldn't want to commute in that - way too loud. So what is a good long distance commuter - cheap but with a good ride and decent handling??
I've owned a RSX-S for about 3 years (traded in this week for a TL)
Its up to you what you do, but ive come to the following conclusions...
TSX to RSX doesnt seem like the greatest idea....
RSX is a GREAT car... but compared to the TSX:
TSX is quieter and has a more comfortable ride... I get a sore ass/back after 1 hour in the RSX... Also, i felt bumps on the RSX way more then the TSX
TSX is a new car, value 'should' hold stronger then a RSX which was discontinued
Both are very similar on gas mileage (fueleconomy.gov)
I test drove the TSX for about 3 hours... and after all that, it felt like a 4 door version of the RSX with more room.... And i couldnt justify spending a bunch of money for 2 more doors and some 'better' refinement (nothing against the TSX, its a great car.. but it was to similar to my RSX)
Its up to you what you do, but ive come to the following conclusions...
TSX to RSX doesnt seem like the greatest idea....
RSX is a GREAT car... but compared to the TSX:
TSX is quieter and has a more comfortable ride... I get a sore ass/back after 1 hour in the RSX... Also, i felt bumps on the RSX way more then the TSX
TSX is a new car, value 'should' hold stronger then a RSX which was discontinued
Both are very similar on gas mileage (fueleconomy.gov)
I test drove the TSX for about 3 hours... and after all that, it felt like a 4 door version of the RSX with more room.... And i couldnt justify spending a bunch of money for 2 more doors and some 'better' refinement (nothing against the TSX, its a great car.. but it was to similar to my RSX)
Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
How's the resale value of the RSX since it's been discontinued?
price hasnt droppped yet...
my friend had a base 05 rsx (wrecked) and got a 06 tsx...
he enjoyed the rsx
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