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Old 11-13-2008, 04:12 PM
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question about actual law on db levels... and a little racial profiling

this morning on the way to work, i had to get gas. so at 4:30am im driving down san carlos(for those not of the area, a not so good part of town). and i get pulled over, of course. cop chp tells me my car is screaming to get pulled over. mentions the tint and exhaust.

he checks my record, clean of course, and lets me go ticket free... definitely not the first time this has happened... cause im white? who knows.

anyways, before he walks away i mention the printout i have from tanabe stating that the exhaust has been tested, and is below the legel db limit at all rpms. he says it doesnt matter, any modification to the system that raises it even 1db is illegal. i thought he was full of shit, but since he already let me go i wasnt going to argue.


so, for those that know for certain. what is the specific law on this?
Old 11-13-2008, 04:19 PM
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I dont know the db level law but around here in VA any exhaust modification to the factory exhaust is illegal. My buddy got pulled over in his Prelude with the Apexi WS2 on it which is a pretty quiet system and that's the explanation that was given.
Old 11-13-2008, 05:07 PM
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I don't know, but if those small penis chopper guys can ride around on a Harley ripping it up you should be able to put a fart can on any car.
Old 11-13-2008, 05:26 PM
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i'm pretty sure there is an actualy decibel limit that your car can't go pass
a lot of cars now a days have aftermarket exhaust like all those truck guys who have magnaflows and what not and they'll never get pulled over for it cause their fords were loud from the beginning

if i ever got a ticket for it i'd be sure to fight it.
Old 11-13-2008, 05:36 PM
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yea thats rediculous, one can drive a harley and wake up the whole F'n neighborhood, but raise the volume of your car stereo and see how fast you get pulled over!!! thats wack plain and simple.

oh and dont tint your windows too dark cause you'll be ticketed for that!

but you can drive your f150 all over town with tinted back window as long as its tinted with an american flag or bald eagle or hunting scenery!!!lol

rediculous!!!
Old 11-13-2008, 05:43 PM
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Not to hijack, but anyone know what these laws are like for us up in Ontario?

I was actually thinking about an aftermarket exhaust, but I definately don't want to be pulled over just because of it.


Anything else that usually gets you pulled over or ticketed for if they search your vehicle? I was actually wondering if a supercharger would cause a ticket...
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Originally Posted by sfont012
yea thats rediculous, one can drive a harley and wake up the whole F'n neighborhood, but raise the volume of your car stereo and see how fast you get pulled over!!! thats wack plain and simple.

oh and dont tint your windows too dark cause you'll be ticketed for that!

but you can drive your f150 all over town with tinted back window as long as its tinted with an american flag or bald eagle or hunting scenery!!!lol

rediculous!!!
Well in NY the back window can be tinted as dark as you want. I think its like that for most states. Everything else but the front has to be 35 tho
Old 11-13-2008, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Derk's K24
I dont know the db level law but around here in VA any exhaust modification to the factory exhaust is illegal. My buddy got pulled over in his Prelude with the Apexi WS2 on it which is a pretty quiet system and that's the explanation that was given.
Yup that is true. I'm going back to my Ws2's though LOL.
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Yup that is true. I'm going back to my Ws2's though LOL.
How much louder does the WSII axleback sound with the oem resonator removed?
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... so basically, nobody knows?
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shoulda asked him what decibal is deemed illegal? and if he thinks your exhaust is above that, he needs to have a decibal reader.. which he wont...
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95db, but if you have a intake itll take you pretty close to the limit. They test your car revved at 3k rpm. BTW this is for california. D ont know about other states.
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Originally Posted by Phrosttz0
shoulda asked him what decibal is deemed illegal? and if he thinks your exhaust is above that, he needs to have a decibal reader.. which he wont...
He doesnt need a decibal reader in cali. He just cites you refering you to the state referee where they do a exhuast db test. Its a pain in da ass.
Old 11-14-2008, 08:52 AM
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VTEC >>> Fart Can

Don't know why anyone would want a loud exhaust. When I go WOT the engine sounds pretty loud, perhaps even too loud. It attracts unwanted attention like the last time I was tooling around waiting for my chinese food take out order. Some doofus in a Evo starts riding my ass like a ripe dingleberry and I had to shake it off before I could parallel park on the street to pick up my order.
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In this area the dB levels vary greatly from town to town and what time of day. There is no right answer to this, though I suspect he had just cause to pull you over for it.

Seriously, there was enough traffic at 4:30 AM to justify getting on it? Tinted windows are always a begging to be pulled over feature in this area, which is why I've never had tinted windows.

I completely agree with who ever made the comment about Harley's, when I asked a cop once, in a friendly setting, why they didn't write tickets because a Harley is louder then 99% of all cars. His reply "because I think that sounds good." Welcome to America
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Originally Posted by vivftp
Not to hijack, but anyone know what these laws are like for us up in Ontario?

I was actually thinking about an aftermarket exhaust, but I definately don't want to be pulled over just because of it.


Anything else that usually gets you pulled over or ticketed for if they search your vehicle? I was actually wondering if a supercharger would cause a ticket...
over here, cops don't care about exhaust's. the only area you might have a problem is Peel region. they always look for reasons to pull you over
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Originally Posted by stRodda
... cause im white? who knows.
are you sure you don't have this backwards?
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
In this area the dB levels vary greatly from town to town and what time of day. There is no right answer to this, though I suspect he had just cause to pull you over for it.

Seriously, there was enough traffic at 4:30 AM to justify getting on it? Tinted windows are always a begging to be pulled over feature in this area, which is why I've never had tinted windows.

I completely agree with who ever made the comment about Harley's, when I asked a cop once, in a friendly setting, why they didn't write tickets because a Harley is louder then 99% of all cars. His reply "because I think that sounds good." Welcome to America

You didnt ask a cop on a Harley did? LOL!
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Originally Posted by Derk's K24
You didnt ask a cop on a Harley did? LOL!
no not that bad, just one that I was friendly enough to ask with out running the risk of being pepper sprayed
Old 11-14-2008, 09:37 AM
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no not that bad, just one that I was friendly enough to ask with out running the risk of being pepper sprayed

Yeah I hear ya. Those damn bike cops ride around looking like the guy from Terminator all the time.
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Originally Posted by SG81
are you sure you don't have this backwards?
Maybe this is the change Obama had in mind

I got pulled over for my tint and its legal...he said i had to have it approved by the MVA and have stickers put on each window. He then wrote me up for no front tag and speeding...
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California Exhaust Law for Passenger Cars

http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displ...le=27150-27159

CA Code 27151. (a)No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor
vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted
by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance
with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits
established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with
Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an
exhaust system so modified.
(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor
vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less
than 6,000 pounds
, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or
less
, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers
Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle
exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to,
nonoriginal exhaust equipment.
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
Maybe this is the change Obama had in mind

I got pulled over for my tint and its legal...he said i had to have it approved by the MVA and have stickers put on each window. He then wrote me up for no front tag and speeding...

I dont know if you're supposed to or not but my GF had 35% MVA stickers on her front two windows when we lived in MD. However she got em after she had to go there to show the car was in good standing because she had gotten a repair order for darker ones and got it re-tinted. The question is that are your windows the tint shops 35% or the states 35%. There is a difference because when she had those stickers on there people always used to ask if her car had tint on it because the legit 35% is very very light.
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hmmm good to know
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im in FL and here no one EVER gets pulled over for there exhausts, but one time my friends cobra took off normal next to a cop and he got pulled over for "revving engine at a police officer" LOL
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Originally Posted by RyanWithThe99tl
im in FL and here no one EVER gets pulled over for there exhausts, but one time my friends cobra took off normal next to a cop and he got pulled over for "revving engine at a police officer" LOL
sound similar to a situation I had. I was with my buddy in his Z06 and he took off from a light quickly, didn't peel tires or anything like that. He gets pulled over for exhibition of speed.
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Yet another example of why I don't ever tint my windows or have an aftermarket exhaust
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