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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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So I just got my race bodywork painted on my bike. I work for an insurance company, and had one of our vendors hook it up. Just paint $100 cash to one of the guys and he did it...however didn't come out with the color I wanted. I wanted fluorescent orange, but I got regualr orange with flake. It definitely looks cool and the quality is great...but I don't like orange!! They hooked it up so I can't go back there and say please do it again.

I was originally going to rattle can it because its a track bike and you crash and it's cheaper/easier to fix that way. Rattle can paint jobs are like a 7/10. This guys paint job was like a 9/10.

Can I lightly sand the clear and rattle can over it...or do I have to sand it all down, re-primer and start from scratch?

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-Can I sand clear and rattle can over it
-Or sand all the way down, re-primer, rattle can from scratch

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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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So I just got my race bodywork painted on my bike. I work for an insurance company, and had one of our vendors hook it up. Just paint $100 cash to one of the guys and he did it...however didn't come out with the color I wanted. I wanted fluorescent orange, but I got regualr orange with flake. It definitely looks cool and the quality is great...but I don't like orange!! They hooked it up so I can't go back there and say please do it again.

I was originally going to rattle can it because its a track bike and you crash and it's cheaper/easier to fix that way. Rattle can paint jobs are like a 7/10. This guys paint job was like a 9/10.

Can I lightly sand the clear and rattle can over it...or do I have to sand it all down, re-primer and start from scratch?

CLIFFS
-Fresh paint
-Can I sand clear and rattle can over it
-Or sand all the way down, re-primer, rattle can from scratch

TIA for any replies!!
yeah im a painter. yo can rattle it but the bike needs to cure for a few days atleast. Otherwise you can end up getting a reaction with the new paint.. But it would be better to sand the old pant down as much as you can. I would say take al the way off and reprimer and paint it. But I also do this for a living so its easy for me.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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btw what skins did you get? I got hotbodies for my 600rr. Superbike tail section. (with foam race seat)
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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I've got Armour Bodies with a spare HB tail that uses the foam seat. That's actually the one I use. I'll post some pics when I get a chance.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Leave it alone... since it'll look better than rattle can, don't mess with it till you crash...
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Leave it alone... since it'll look better than rattle can, don't mess with it till you crash...
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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I'd like to leave it alone...but I really just don't like orange. It basically got painted the wrong color. Any color other then red or orange I probably would have kept, but really it's just a deep orange with a little flake.

I'm going to go the rattle can route. I just painted my spare tail with some of the fluorescent orange, and love how it looks.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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yeah you really need to be there when it is being painted. Sometimes if you look at the color chip you cant get a good feel of how the entire paint job will come out. If you had caught it before it was cleared, then no big deal. Just scuff and reshoot the new color.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Leave it alone... since it'll look better than rattle can, don't mess with it till you crash...
Best advice.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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hey pete I got one question about your skins. Did you get the upper fairing mount stays? I cant decide if I want to get the vortex one or not. Also, If you dont have the Vortex racing gas cap, it is a must on ALL track bikes. No key need to open the tank, just threads in with 2- 2 1/2 full turns. Easy install, takes about 5 min. I dont know how i got along without it! (lol im a vortex whore)
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Leave it alone... since it'll look better than rattle can, don't mess with it till you crash...
Agree.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Let's see some pics of the color.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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hey pete I got one question about your skins. Did you get the upper fairing mount stays? I cant decide if I want to get the vortex one or not. Also, If you dont have the Vortex racing gas cap, it is a must on ALL track bikes. No key need to open the tank, just threads in with 2- 2 1/2 full turns. Easy install, takes about 5 min. I dont know how i got along without it! (lol im a vortex whore)
Yes, I've got the Vortex gas cap. Love it too, though sometime it's tough to unscrew. Saw a tool once that was used to unscrew it in situations where it's over turned and the pressure seals it...very cool. I need to get one of those...though I think it was an AMA mechanic that machined it for their team. I'm not sure what fairing stay I have on there. It was setup for race when I bought it and I never really looked. DZUS fastners are a great convenience item too...if you don't have those...look into em'. Very quick to remove the bodywork.

Here's some pics. Off my cell phone...so quality's not too great.


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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Meh, I dunno. If you're not losing much from the paint job, change it to what you want.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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So my friend that picked up the bodywork returned it to me scratched up. Hence the picture of the tail. I don't know if he did it (he blames the shop), though a very professional shop wouldn't give you something like that.

Anyway, I called the guy, we discussed it and he agreed to repaint it. He's a very nice guy, and I just explained that one part that was black was supposed to be orange, some parts were scratched, and the orange didn't match the theme of all the other gear that is "hot" orange.

I gave him a spray paint can of the orange I liked and practiced on my spare tail with, and he said he could paint it nicely with that stuff and clear it. So that's what thier doing. I think a professional shop should be able to rattle can pretty well!!
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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So my friend that picked up the bodywork returned it to me scratched up. Hence the picture of the tail. I don't know if he did it (he blames the shop), though a very professional shop wouldn't give you something like that.

Anyway, I called the guy, we discussed it and he agreed to repaint it. He's a very nice guy, and I just explained that one part that was black was supposed to be orange, some parts were scratched, and the orange didn't match the theme of all the other gear that is "hot" orange.

I gave him a spray paint can of the orange I liked and practiced on my spare tail with, and he said he could paint it nicely with that stuff and clear it. So that's what thier doing. I think a professional shop should be able to rattle can pretty well!!
uhh i wouldnt trust them to rattle well. When you spray a car or bike you use a hvlp gun. (high volume low pressure). And even that takes a while to get used to. The are prob going to try to color match the paint you gave them. Well thats what i would do. With spray paint, its very easy to run. where as automotive paint is damn hard to run. oh yeah i have all DZUS fasteners.. DZUS FTMFW!
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Here's the look I'm going for btw...just "hotter" orange.

We'll see how it turns out. Their a national car repair chain, and we send them a lot of business, so I think he'll make sure it looks good. It sounded to me like they would have no problem rattle canning it and making it look perfect. I'll post pics when I get it back. Plus, its a track paint job. Doesn't need to be perfect...especially for $100.

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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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600rr?
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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shit looks good! CBR FTW! I know my bike is a god damn money pit lol. I have a can of house of colors marblizer for the skins. I have to have someone else paint it, cause i have never done that kind of paint job before. The paint is so expensive i dont want to fuck it up lol.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Wow. That looks hot.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Thanks. Hopefully it turns out as good or better.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Hey pete I have a few questions for ya. 1.) what did you use for the rim stripe? 2.) which circut(s) are you racing in? W.E.R.A, N.E.S.B.A, A.M.A or something else, or are you just doing track days?
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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I ran did track days my last two years. This year will be my first year doing CCS. I plan on doing 1, maybe 2 race weekends, but mostly sticking with NESBA. I'm also going to do some Sportbike Track Time track days this year because they have some dates I'd like to go to.

What about you?
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Oh ya, rim tape. Ebay. You can use regular pin stripe tape from Autozone, but its a lot harder to apply. Search on the 600rr.net forum. There's guys that made a hand made tool (really easily) that helps apply the pin stripe stuff.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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I ran did track days my last two years. This year will be my first year doing CCS. I plan on doing 1, maybe 2 race weekends, but mostly sticking with NESBA. I'm also going to do some Sportbike Track Time track days this year because they have some dates I'd like to go to.

What about you?
Right now, I havent been able to do any track days. I need to save up and buy a beater pick up turck to tow my bike. I have all the skins and everything need to convert it toa track only bike. But I don't have another bike for the street yet. Once I get a truck and new "street" bike my RR with become my track whore. I was planning on running in WERA and NESBA up in VA, at summit point, beaver creek, and VIR. I moved down here to FL so I don't know any local track riders, events, or local circuts Up north I had alot of friends who raced and did track days, but down here I dont really know anyone. Here they are all about bling and drag bikes. (which I cant stand) I have my bike set up for kneedragging. not ghetto shit. Oh yeah I also have the vortex rear sets set up for GP shifting. Its reverse shifting. So its 1 up and 5 down. Its set up for racing, becuase its easier to shift the gear shifter down mid corner (to grab a higher gear) than to pull up. I jumped on my firends 08 gxxer 1000 and it fucked me all up lol. Im so used to gp shifting now, it's hard to shift in the normal pattern.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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custom powder coated vortex rearsets!

had half the rear sets powdercoated to match the bike

the reverse shift linkage. you can set it up for normal or gp shifting. (i went with gp)
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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some over all shots of the bike with stock skins


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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Nice.

Ya, my first track bike came with the GP shift pattern. I switched it to normal after one ride around the block. I've got a 600rr street bike and didn't want the trouble of remembering which bike I'm on, and getting used to one way then switching to the other. Too much trouble could have come from making a mistake.

I don't think most club racer guys are at the skill level where GP shift is a must. It's really for changing gears mid turn...but really you can setup in the gear you need while breaking, carry the speed through the corner that you have, then accelerate in the gear you already needed and already in out of the corner.

Some of the GP guys don't even use...though it's a racer's convenience non-the-less.

Nice bike.
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