The Official Wagon/Avant Discussion Thread
06-15-2017, 06:56 AM
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That is awesome. Needs more power though. Will be intersted to see how much actual useable cargo space there will be in it. Will it be more like the CTS-V Wagon or more along the lines of the E Class Wagon space?
06-15-2017, 07:38 AM
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Ok so here are the cargo numbers.
CTS-V 25.4ft / 58ft with seats down
E63 AMG 35ft / 57.4ft with seats down (volume with seats down might be wrong. I couldn't find it except in review articles.)
Jaguar Sportbrake 31.7ft / 69.7ft with seats down
So the Jaguar appears to fall right in the middle which is kind of what I figured. Maybe that extra 6ft it has on the Cadi would allow a set of golf clubs to lay straight back towards the seats instead of at an angle right now.
CTS-V 25.4ft / 58ft with seats down
E63 AMG 35ft / 57.4ft with seats down (volume with seats down might be wrong. I couldn't find it except in review articles.)
Jaguar Sportbrake 31.7ft / 69.7ft with seats down
So the Jaguar appears to fall right in the middle which is kind of what I figured. Maybe that extra 6ft it has on the Cadi would allow a set of golf clubs to lay straight back towards the seats instead of at an angle right now.
06-17-2017, 04:10 PM
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Seriously? 380 supercharged AWD isn't enough? My 530 only has 255 and with proper gearing it never feels slow (until I get in my Gran Coupe then it does).
06-19-2017, 07:09 AM
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Here is to hoping they make an XFR-S of the new Sportbrake like the old one with the 542hp V8
06-20-2017, 05:54 PM
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Not to quibble but your "last car" was a wagon for the figures you're quoting?
06-20-2017, 06:35 PM
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at $81k, i would expect more than 380hp. Maybe i am trippin, but at $81k, i would expect it to be around BMW 550i territory
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06-20-2017, 08:52 PM
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06-21-2017, 07:21 AM
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06-21-2017, 07:22 AM
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This is definitely a bit more of my point. I would want more power for my money. Doesn't the hybrid Volvo even have at least 400 something hp?
06-21-2017, 06:04 PM
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Yes please
06-22-2017, 08:58 AM
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Now that is just a super classy looking wagon.
06-22-2017, 11:35 AM
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I read it has 600hp... i mean who needs an M5...
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06-22-2017, 02:36 PM
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608hp/590ftlbs tq and 0-62 in 4 seconds........................never coming to the US
06-22-2017, 03:45 PM
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yah well this is nothing new that we never get the good stuff...
I am very very interested actually more interested in the M550d than M5... i would seriously consider it if it ever makes it to the US.
Wagon or not.
I am very very interested actually more interested in the M550d than M5... i would seriously consider it if it ever makes it to the US.
Wagon or not.
06-22-2017, 05:41 PM
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06-22-2017, 06:26 PM
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I think C Wagon looks so much better than C sedan.... mainly because it does not have that flat narrow ass anymore.
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06-22-2017, 08:30 PM
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06-22-2017, 09:36 PM
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06-22-2017, 10:01 PM
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Ooo...just checked, it's coming to Canada of all places!
I have more choices now when it's time to retire the Sea Cucumber!
I have more choices now when it's time to retire the Sea Cucumber!
06-22-2017, 11:07 PM
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make sure you get white....i am serious. that is how "we" roll.
06-22-2017, 11:11 PM
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06-22-2017, 11:12 PM
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But, my wagon choices are:
- Audi A4 allroad
- Volvo V90
- Mercedes-Benz C-Class Wagon
Good to have choices. And no, no BMW...the dealerships here are idiotic in service.
- Audi A4 allroad
- Volvo V90
- Mercedes-Benz C-Class Wagon
Good to have choices. And no, no BMW...the dealerships here are idiotic in service.
06-23-2017, 10:24 AM
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The only thing I noticed from the interior haha Love how they are doing some fancy stuff!
You are smoking some good stuff! It's half blue half green!
You are smoking some good stuff! It's half blue half green!
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06-23-2017, 11:23 AM
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.. get the white C wagon... If your wife drives it, put some pink Hello Kitty pillow in there too... 
06-23-2017, 12:59 PM
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God, is this for realz? Top is blue and bottom is green.
Is this the stupid blue or white dress thing all over again?
Is this the stupid blue or white dress thing all over again?
06-23-2017, 02:19 PM
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did I mention I'm color blind?
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06-23-2017, 02:48 PM
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06-23-2017, 03:41 PM
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I'll settle it for all of you: It's yerrow.
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06-24-2017, 03:33 PM
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06-24-2017, 05:45 PM
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06-26-2017, 06:59 AM
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I mean if the color really bothers anyone when they get one I would be glad to take it of their hands for them
06-26-2017, 07:43 AM
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06-28-2017, 10:25 AM
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06-28-2017, 12:53 PM
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Give us a damn model without all the clading on the sides and don't lift it.The Opel wagon had so much potential but that thing is terrible.
06-28-2017, 12:55 PM
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Sorry as I keep telling Matt since he thinks he is eventually buying the Vagon now that he has my IS-F is that I think the Vagon is a permanent car. I will save up after it is paid off and the next car will probably be an addition. Your welcome to take it for a spin though.
07-10-2017, 02:25 PM
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