The Official Wagon/Avant Discussion Thread
2015 Passat Wagon revealed, folks: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...698053&page=20
Man, I am so torn. Wait for the new Golf R to start test driving or go drive the V60 and Allroad now and if I like one, get it.
I have this feeling I will regret not waiting even though going from the ST to an R is kind of silly.
Honestly, I wish I could fit my dogs in a S5
I have this feeling I will regret not waiting even though going from the ST to an R is kind of silly.
Honestly, I wish I could fit my dogs in a S5
Man, I am so torn. Wait for the new Golf R to start test driving or go drive the V60 and Allroad now and if I like one, get it.
I have this feeling I will regret not waiting even though going from the ST to an R is kind of silly.
Honestly, I wish I could fit my dogs in a S5
I have this feeling I will regret not waiting even though going from the ST to an R is kind of silly.
Honestly, I wish I could fit my dogs in a S5


Golf R, well, that's up to you if you can hold out for that long.
The Golf R is five months away. It sounds like it's going to be a heck of a car. That's why I'm torn. The V60 and Allroad are nice cars but I wish the Allroad had more HP and the V60 had AWD with the engine I want. So they're both compromises.
What sucks is that the cars I want exist. I wouldn't have to make a compromise if they would just bring them here
There's nothing that wrong with the Focus, I guess. It's not much better than it was a year ago when it stalled out all the time. At least it doesn't throw a check engine light now.
The Golf R is five months away. It sounds like it's going to be a heck of a car. That's why I'm torn. The V60 and Allroad are nice cars but I wish the Allroad had more HP and the V60 had AWD with the engine I want. So they're both compromises.
What sucks is that the cars I want exist. I wouldn't have to make a compromise if they would just bring them here
The Golf R is five months away. It sounds like it's going to be a heck of a car. That's why I'm torn. The V60 and Allroad are nice cars but I wish the Allroad had more HP and the V60 had AWD with the engine I want. So they're both compromises.
What sucks is that the cars I want exist. I wouldn't have to make a compromise if they would just bring them here

And honestly, it's IMO the best-looking of the candidates. But, that's just me.

The test-drive will reveal all.
$35K but 3 years (almost 4 years) old
with 11K on the odo
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/BMW/...m?geoZip=14075
with 11K on the odo
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/BMW/...m?geoZip=14075
been spending way too much time researching wagons...got married a few months ago, and moving out to surburbia in a year or so and have the car researching itch. trying to figure out how to budget from NYC carless > mortgage + car pmts.
Step 1: Down payment on house + buy CPO wagon for us (to be turned into family hauler when kids arrive)
Step 2: Eventually pick up second car (lease) for me. Which could be swapped out to fit my car frenzy needs.
really, really, want an allroad to eventually turn into the family hauler. the best wagons are germans, but to buy a CPO and have it for 5+ years scares me. while its really tempting, the whole "let it age with no worries" rationale goes out the window, which leaves me with a TSX Wagon?
what to do...what to do...the lack of non-german wagons (for the sake of owning, not leasing) is very limiting.
Step 1: Down payment on house + buy CPO wagon for us (to be turned into family hauler when kids arrive)
Step 2: Eventually pick up second car (lease) for me. Which could be swapped out to fit my car frenzy needs.
really, really, want an allroad to eventually turn into the family hauler. the best wagons are germans, but to buy a CPO and have it for 5+ years scares me. while its really tempting, the whole "let it age with no worries" rationale goes out the window, which leaves me with a TSX Wagon?
what to do...what to do...the lack of non-german wagons (for the sake of owning, not leasing) is very limiting.
Last edited by ThermonMermon; Aug 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM.
I read a rumor online BMW will have a touring edition 5 series next year . . . . OTOH, I bought my '06 530xi T in March, 2007 with 19K on it. It's got 143K now and has been mainly trouble free except for expected maintenance issues. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
been spending way too much time researching wagons...got married a few months ago, and moving out to surburbia in a year or so and have the car researching itch. trying to figure out how to budget from NYC carless > mortgage + car pmts.
Step 1: Down payment on house + buy CPO wagon for us (to be turned into family hauler when kids arrive)
Step 2: Eventually pick up second car (lease) for me. Which could be swapped out to fit my car frenzy needs.
really, really, want an allroad to eventually turn into the family hauler. the best wagons are germans, but to buy a CPO and have it for 5+ years scares me. while its really tempting, the whole "let it age with no worries" rationale goes out the window, which leaves me with a TSX Wagon?
what to do...what to do...the lack of non-german wagons (for the sake of owning, not leasing) is very limiting.
Step 1: Down payment on house + buy CPO wagon for us (to be turned into family hauler when kids arrive)
Step 2: Eventually pick up second car (lease) for me. Which could be swapped out to fit my car frenzy needs.
really, really, want an allroad to eventually turn into the family hauler. the best wagons are germans, but to buy a CPO and have it for 5+ years scares me. while its really tempting, the whole "let it age with no worries" rationale goes out the window, which leaves me with a TSX Wagon?
what to do...what to do...the lack of non-german wagons (for the sake of owning, not leasing) is very limiting.
^ yup. agreed. but in my situation, id be locking into a 3-4 year window of the remaining warranty, and this is before future kids are even born. so i guess i would need it longer. guess you could always go extended.
as Chief stated, it seems like his 8 yr old 5-wagon is still going strong. personally, a 5-series wagon would be ideal, if they are re-introducing them, i could probably pick up a slightly used one in 18 months (maybe). definitely worth thinking about.
youre going allroad?
as Chief stated, it seems like his 8 yr old 5-wagon is still going strong. personally, a 5-series wagon would be ideal, if they are re-introducing them, i could probably pick up a slightly used one in 18 months (maybe). definitely worth thinking about.
youre going allroad?
Last edited by ThermonMermon; Aug 3, 2014 at 11:15 AM.
My BMW warranty parts/labor was for 5/100K: remainder of factory warranty (3) plus 2 years CPO plus 50K. They don't do that any more though. That's a very compelling argument/reason to go with the allroad charliemike
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/21/b...gon-spy-shots/
Looks like another 2 years in the current car before I get to buy a new 530(5?) xiT CPO
Last edited by Chief F1 Fan; Aug 3, 2014 at 11:35 AM.
seriously cross-shopped the 328 wagon and allroad today.
walked away strongly disappointed. both cars were extremely claustrophic - perhaps it was the tunnel like cabin on a narrow chasis. i could see the 5 series wagon being much more acceptable. and to further note, the allroad rear seat was not adult friendly. to have either car function as a road tripper seems like a far stretch.
in the end, i was very quickly drawn to the X3 and Q5 in lieu of the respective wagon.
walked away strongly disappointed. both cars were extremely claustrophic - perhaps it was the tunnel like cabin on a narrow chasis. i could see the 5 series wagon being much more acceptable. and to further note, the allroad rear seat was not adult friendly. to have either car function as a road tripper seems like a far stretch.
in the end, i was very quickly drawn to the X3 and Q5 in lieu of the respective wagon.
Yeah, the 3 is too small and has been for a long time but less so now than in the past. My 5 is the perfect size. At times it looks big but never from the inside, including the cargo area behind the seats. I just don't have it in my DNA to own a sport ute.
seriously cross-shopped the 328 wagon and allroad today.
walked away strongly disappointed. both cars were extremely claustrophic - perhaps it was the tunnel like cabin on a narrow chasis. i could see the 5 series wagon being much more acceptable. and to further note, the allroad rear seat was not adult friendly. to have either car function as a road tripper seems like a far stretch.
in the end, i was very quickly drawn to the X3 and Q5 in lieu of the respective wagon.
walked away strongly disappointed. both cars were extremely claustrophic - perhaps it was the tunnel like cabin on a narrow chasis. i could see the 5 series wagon being much more acceptable. and to further note, the allroad rear seat was not adult friendly. to have either car function as a road tripper seems like a far stretch.
in the end, i was very quickly drawn to the X3 and Q5 in lieu of the respective wagon.
i dont know how big you guys are but i am 6'1 and the backseat is plenty big enough for me.
F30 is probably the biggest 3 series so far. but of course compare to X3 and 5 series it is much smaller.
F30 is probably the biggest 3 series so far. but of course compare to X3 and 5 series it is much smaller.
you're asking the wrong person. i thought even the back of the 5-series was underwhelming. (im 6'0", 185).
i had big hopes in going the euro CPO route, but after doing the math, a 3 year old CPO, with 3-year remaining hold (during warranty) just doesnt seem worth it when you could lease for 36 months. although, this only holds true when leasing with one of those NYC leasing brokers, who could effectively match monthly lease payments, while slashing the 2-4k down payment.
in a ditch effort, ive re-directed focus on the 2015 Genesis and JGC Limited. i think ive found that value and space take top priority for me....and for some reason, the GLK boxy interior is VERY appealing.
i had big hopes in going the euro CPO route, but after doing the math, a 3 year old CPO, with 3-year remaining hold (during warranty) just doesnt seem worth it when you could lease for 36 months. although, this only holds true when leasing with one of those NYC leasing brokers, who could effectively match monthly lease payments, while slashing the 2-4k down payment.
in a ditch effort, ive re-directed focus on the 2015 Genesis and JGC Limited. i think ive found that value and space take top priority for me....and for some reason, the GLK boxy interior is VERY appealing.
Last edited by ThermonMermon; Aug 6, 2014 at 02:43 PM.










