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Old 02-07-2014, 01:43 PM
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I've updated the URL, BTW. Anyhow, sorry for the OT.
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what is the difference between allroad and A4 quattro wagon?

So if you lower the Allroad and the A4 Wagon, then are they the same car?
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I wish. I needed some wheels stat for my Bridgestone winters...so, the Lorenzos were the cheapest I could find in a hurry.

Still set me back $1400 I think?
Oh, yours. I thought you meant the 2004 Allroad.
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Man, some nice set of 19inch wheels/tires + H&R or Eibach springs + APR Tune can be around $2,000.

Hmmmm.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Oh, yours. I thought you meant the 2004 Allroad.
Oh. Pay attention, dammit!
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Man, some nice set of 19inch wheels/tires + H&R or Eibach springs + APR Tune can be around $2,000.

Hmmmm.
Those would look awful on your BRZ.



























I know you own an Avant.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
what is the difference between allroad and A4 quattro wagon?

So if you lower the Allroad and the A4 Wagon, then are they the same car?
I don't know the definitive answer. CLtotheTL said the A4 Allroad was built on the Q5 chassis with an A4 Avant body. I hadn't heard that before. I thought it was just a lifted and facelifted A4 Avant.

My guess is it's a lot of marketing to try to sell wagons. Meanwhile in Great Britain you can get an A4 Avant, a S4 Avant, a RS4 Avant, an A6 Avant, a S6 Avant, a RS6 Avant, an A4 Allroad, and an A6 Allroad.

In a country that has 1/5 the population of the United States.
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Eight different kinds of Audi wagons and we get one.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I don't know the definitive answer. CLtotheTL said the A4 Allroad was built on the Q5 chassis with an A4 Avant body. I hadn't heard that before. I thought it was just a lifted and facelifted A4 Avant.

My guess is it's a lot of marketing to try to sell wagons. Meanwhile in Great Britain you can get an A4 Avant, a S4 Avant, a RS4 Avant, an A6 Avant, a S6 Avant, a RS6 Avant, an A4 Allroad, and an A6 Allroad.

In a country that has 1/5 the population of the United States.
Mmm...don't think it is based on the Q5. It's a modded A4 from what I know.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/audi/a4-allroad
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Wikipedia has a nice write-up on the A4 model range: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_A4#A4_allroad_quattro
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Modded A4? other than being lifted and unpainted body panels, i really can't tell the differences.

That is why i asked if you lowered the allroad = A4?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Eight different kinds of Audi wagons and we get one.
We live in a continent where it's all about pick-up trucks and giant@$$ SUVs...duh.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:01 PM
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Also, Audi hates you.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Modded A4? other than being lifted and unpainted body panels, i really can't tell the differences.

That is why i asked if you lowered the allroad = A4?
Yup, it would be essentially that.

But, kinda defeats the point to lower an allroad. But, that's just me. Kinda like me buying a CUV and deciding to lower it. Completely defeats the practicalness of it being a bit elevated in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Yup, it would be essentially that.

But, kinda defeats the point to lower an allroad. But, that's just me. Kinda like me buying a CUV and deciding to lower it. Completely defeats the practicalness of it being a bit elevated in the first place.
As a mild-off road wagon, lowering does defeat the purpose.

As someone that wants an Audi wagon, that's all there is. And you can see that the car looks pretty aggressive when it's lowered like a normal A4.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
As a mild-off road wagon, lowering does defeat the purpose.

As someone that wants an Audi wagon, that's all there is. And you can see that the car looks pretty aggressive when it's lowered like a normal A4.
Then, the owner of the allroad who wanted to lower it is more or less an idiot.

Cuz, he/she could've just bought an A4.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Then, the owner of the allroad who wanted to lower it is more or less an idiot.

Cuz, he/she could've just bought an A4.
Uhh, dingdong they ONLY sell the A4 Allroad here now. There is no A4 Avant.

Please do try to keep up

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Originally Posted by charliemike
Uhh, dingdong they ONLY sell the A4 Allroad here now. There is no A4 Avant.

Please do try to keep up



I was talking in GENERAL terms...I know that Audi hates you and won't sell the Avant here.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha


I was talking in GENERAL terms...I know that Audi hates you and won't sell the Avant here.
But they want an A4 Avant and the only one they can get is the Allroad. Since it's just suspension, lowering it isn't a big deal is it?!

Audi does hate us.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
But they want an A4 Avant and the only one they can get is the Allroad. Since it's just suspension, lowering it isn't a big deal is it?!

Audi does hate us.
OKAY FINE!

I GUESS YOUR ARGUMENT FLOATS THEN. HAPPY??!??






And yes, Audi hates us.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
OKAY FINE!

I GUESS YOUR ARGUMENT FLOATS THEN. HAPPY??!??
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So, to CIRCUMVENT Audi's dumb@$$ decision to NOT give us Avants, North American owners do the weirdo thing and LOWER allroads and eliminate the extra height functionality to "downgrade" it to an Avant.


GOOD ONE, AUDI.
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I thought this was pretty cool looking and probably belongs in this thread. Not sure if this is a repost... I really wish they release the wagon version of the 6 in the States

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I don't think that's a repost and if it is, who cares. Beautiful car. Retarded navigation screen though

But if they brought that over as a manual diesel it'd go on my list.
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I love it. But, @ Mazdas after the nightmares we had with the Mazda3.
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Wow, that 6 wagon looks amazing
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Originally Posted by Mongolian
I thought this was pretty cool looking and probably belongs in this thread. Not sure if this is a repost... I really wish they release the wagon version of the 6 in the States

WOAH. This is .

I wouldn't mind a Mazdaspeed6 Wagon as a DD at all.

Mazda don't even have to change the engine. It's freaking beasty. Just keep the same engine and make it look like this and sell it at $30k. I'm sold.

I love Mazda. I had zero problem for over 4 years of owning it even though I modded it and drove like a crazy monkey everyday. The dealership experience was very good as well.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
I love it. But, @ Mazdas after the nightmares we had with the Mazda3.
I have a 07 with 131k miles that I use as a commuter. It doesn't age well but it is good enough to rack up mileage.

We traded in our FX35 and picked up the new 6. It's a very nice car for an economy class car.
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Originally Posted by Mongolian
I have a 07 with 131k miles that I use as a commuter. It doesn't age well but it is good enough to rack up mileage.

We traded in our FX35 and picked up the new 6. It's a very nice car for an economy class car.
Well, the rusting problem in the quarterpanel that would NOT go away after multiple fixes/warranties was our problem.

However, maybe Mazdas are just not made for the climate I'm in.



I hear good things about the Mazda6...it definitely looks nice.
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I love Mazda. I had zero problem for over 4 years of owning it even though I modded it and drove like a crazy monkey everyday. The dealership experience was very good as well.
Confidence inspiring. Really wish the 6Wagon was available here . I'm seriously leaning toward a 3s 6MT Hatchback when they start popping up.
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The 2.5 6MT Mazda3 should be a fun car with 185hp.
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Found a nice image of everyone's favorite wagon...

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In my color too
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Audi wagons....
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This is another clean on over at Audizine.

The Allroad just needs a set of proper wheels and springs to be a stunning looking car on the road.
That and deleting the black trim ("full paint finish" for $1000)
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Never taken a huge interest in them other than the 2.7T back in the day, but the Allroad has fender flares which aren't present on Avants as far as I can tell. Didn't even know there was an option to get the flares painted to match.

Lowering it makes it look nice, because the flares give it a bit of extra... flair. I'd considered getting a Legacy GT Outback for a while and doing the same thing because it looks awesome
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10,000 billion times better than whatever Subaru is building right now.

They should just take that car, put a better interior in it with a 6MT and the latest WRX engine, and put it back on the market.
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If only the new Subaru's looked that amazing
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
If only the new Subaru's looked that amazing
Instead we get these things with CVTs



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