The Official Wagon/Avant Discussion Thread
#4921
Senior Moderator
Nice read from Pistonheads on the BMW wagons: https://www.pistonheads.com/features...-touring/43419
#4922
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
I like that Alpina.
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#4923
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![](https://nwvagtech.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/vw-golf-r-wallpaper-26.jpeg)
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#4924
Whats up with RDX owners?
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![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
#4925
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
Arteon Shooting Brake, R Wagon? Sign me up for one. But nearly $70K for a 300 HP, AWD, DSG equipped wagon. Yikes. Looks great though.
Arteon Shooting Brake
Arteon Shooting Brake
Last edited by mrmako; 12-10-2020 at 09:17 PM.
#4926
Whats up with RDX owners?
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That's including VAT though.
#4927
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
Yes. Right now, the German government is giving people a break, a 16% VAT until the end of the year, then it goes back to 19%. Depending on where you live in the US of A, your sales tax will be 6-9%, plus bullshit fees. At least when Germans quote a price, that's it. TuV (inspection) is included for the first three years (new car, it's waived).
#4928
Senior Moderator
So my A4 Avant is totaled. ![RIP](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smitty.gif)
Car is certainly repairable, but the damage is too extensive & expensive. Basically one side of the car is all messed up.
![RIP](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smitty.gif)
Car is certainly repairable, but the damage is too extensive & expensive. Basically one side of the car is all messed up.
#4929
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#4931
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Was the wife who was driving, but she's fine. She ran off the road avoiding wildlife. Every panel on the left side of the car including the hood, roof, and rear spoiler needs to be fixed.
Cost to repair is more than what the car is worth.
It was a beauty.
Cost to repair is more than what the car is worth.
It was a beauty.
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#4932
Senior Moderator
Wifey wants a Mini.
#4933
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This is nice...
![](https://i.redd.it/dakb7g5dw2az.jpg)
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#4935
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So you think you're a baller when it comes to Estate Vehicles?
#4936
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
#4937
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#4938
Senior Moderator
Yikes. Well...she's okay. Sorry about the car.
#4939
Senior Moderator
#4940
Senior Moderator
#4941
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
#4942
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
You can configure a BMW Alpina in Germany. The B5 Wagon starts at ~$125K and goes up quite a bit once you put some features on it.
Alpina Configurator
Must be nice to have that kind of money.
Alpina Configurator
Must be nice to have that kind of money.
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#4943
Senior Moderator
Alpina B5 Touring... ![Cry](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/cry.gif)
![Cry](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/cry.gif)
![](https://bimmerlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/BMW_ALPINA_B5_1920x1200_06-e1592191117178.jpg)
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#4944
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#4945
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It worked out just fine but sometimes, we found the trunk space just a tad too little.
#4946
Senior Moderator
K, wasn't sure about the rear room for you space-wise. FWIW, we bought the Countryman because we were expecting our first (and only) kid and it was my wife's vehicle of choice for her needs as a new Mom and etc.
It worked out just fine but sometimes, we found the trunk space just a tad too little.
It worked out just fine but sometimes, we found the trunk space just a tad too little.
#4947
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Hate to say it, but have you thought about a Civic hatch?
#4948
Senior Moderator
Then, my "disclaimer" on the Countryman's boot is a non-issue whatsoever then. Test drive it. It basically drives like a BMW X1 to me.
#4949
Moderator
I drove a couple Minis before we bought the Merc.
IMO, and because there were no manuals on the lot except JCWs, the Mini Cooper S (I drove a Cooper S 4door & a Clubman) was underpowered. Really didn't have the same zing that the '1G' supercharged & 2G turbo Minis did.
Left feeling a bit disappointed with it, though the sales guys were hyping the Dinan tunes for them.
IMO, and because there were no manuals on the lot except JCWs, the Mini Cooper S (I drove a Cooper S 4door & a Clubman) was underpowered. Really didn't have the same zing that the '1G' supercharged & 2G turbo Minis did.
Left feeling a bit disappointed with it, though the sales guys were hyping the Dinan tunes for them.
#4950
Senior Moderator
I drove a couple Minis before we bought the Merc.
IMO, and because there were no manuals on the lot except JCWs, the Mini Cooper S (I drove a Cooper S 4door & a Clubman) was underpowered. Really didn't have the same zing that the '1G' supercharged & 2G turbo Minis did.
Left feeling a bit disappointed with it, though the sales guys were hyping the Dinan tunes for them.
IMO, and because there were no manuals on the lot except JCWs, the Mini Cooper S (I drove a Cooper S 4door & a Clubman) was underpowered. Really didn't have the same zing that the '1G' supercharged & 2G turbo Minis did.
Left feeling a bit disappointed with it, though the sales guys were hyping the Dinan tunes for them.
![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
It was a nimble "little" thing for us and a nice change-of-pace from the FX50.
#4951
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![Nod](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif)
Nimble, just not quick, IMO.
The last Coopers I drove prior were a '04 SC Cooper S & both a 08-09ish Cooper S & JCW Clubman.
The 2018 Cooper S 4 door just didn't have the same feel, largely due to the lack of a manual, I imagine.
Girl in our HR dept at work has a base 4 door (2019 I think) & she loves it.
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#4952
Safety Car
This is definitely a higher on the list for our next potential replacement vehicle for upgrading the daily....drive-ability and style of a sedan/hatch, with enough cargo space and room on the inside for 90% of our needs.
Wife is looking more into EVs as a next daily car but I'm not sold on them just yet with current battery tech...even the hybrids like Prius....still can be obsolete/outdated in 10 years when you need to redo the hybrid battery. A highly efficienct old school 4-popper with turbos (make sure the turbo/oil dilution issue is all figured out...I assume with these honda turbo motors) that will last 20+ years and get great ICE/old-school efficiency
Wife is looking more into EVs as a next daily car but I'm not sold on them just yet with current battery tech...even the hybrids like Prius....still can be obsolete/outdated in 10 years when you need to redo the hybrid battery. A highly efficienct old school 4-popper with turbos (make sure the turbo/oil dilution issue is all figured out...I assume with these honda turbo motors) that will last 20+ years and get great ICE/old-school efficiency
#4953
Senior Moderator
Maybe should have been clearer on my requirements:
1. AWD - Due to my very very steep driveway. I used to get stuck going up the driveway during the winter in my TSX. A4 Avant performed brilliantly.![RIP](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smitty.gif)
2. Not too big. Already have an MDX. Wifey will probably be the primary driver, she needs something easy to find parking with. Also, in a few years, my first born will be ready for a driver's permit and *gulp* she'll probably use this car for practice.
3. Not too big, but still needs 5 doors.
4. Lease most likely.
Trying to convince my wife on an Alfa Romeo Giulia. But thinking about my first born using a Giulia for practice and I'm![Scared](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/scared.gif)
Mini Countryman and maybe even a BMW 228 Gran Coupe might be the leading contender now.
1. AWD - Due to my very very steep driveway. I used to get stuck going up the driveway during the winter in my TSX. A4 Avant performed brilliantly.
![RIP](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smitty.gif)
2. Not too big. Already have an MDX. Wifey will probably be the primary driver, she needs something easy to find parking with. Also, in a few years, my first born will be ready for a driver's permit and *gulp* she'll probably use this car for practice.
3. Not too big, but still needs 5 doors.
4. Lease most likely.
Trying to convince my wife on an Alfa Romeo Giulia. But thinking about my first born using a Giulia for practice and I'm
![Scared](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/scared.gif)
Mini Countryman and maybe even a BMW 228 Gran Coupe might be the leading contender now.
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#4954
Team Owner
Dont think BMW 228i GC is a 5 door... just FYI.
Give Mazda 3 or CX-30 a try... unless she really wants that BMW badge.
My GF prefers her non turbo CX30 over my 340i. In some aspect, i agree and that is a car that costs less than 50% of what my MSRP is.
Give Mazda 3 or CX-30 a try... unless she really wants that BMW badge.
My GF prefers her non turbo CX30 over my 340i. In some aspect, i agree and that is a car that costs less than 50% of what my MSRP is.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 12-15-2020 at 04:47 PM.
#4955
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Maybe should have been clearer on my requirements:
1. AWD - Due to my very very steep driveway. I used to get stuck going up the driveway during the winter in my TSX. A4 Avant performed brilliantly.![RIP](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smitty.gif)
2. Not too big. Already have an MDX. Wifey will probably be the primary driver, she needs something easy to find parking with. Also, in a few years, my first born will be ready for a driver's permit and *gulp* she'll probably use this car for practice.
3. Not too big, but still needs 5 doors.
4. Lease most likely.
Trying to convince my wife on an Alfa Romeo Giulia. But thinking about my first born using a Giulia for practice and I'm![Scared](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/scared.gif)
Mini Countryman and maybe even a BMW 228 Gran Coupe might be the leading contender now.
1. AWD - Due to my very very steep driveway. I used to get stuck going up the driveway during the winter in my TSX. A4 Avant performed brilliantly.
![RIP](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smitty.gif)
2. Not too big. Already have an MDX. Wifey will probably be the primary driver, she needs something easy to find parking with. Also, in a few years, my first born will be ready for a driver's permit and *gulp* she'll probably use this car for practice.
3. Not too big, but still needs 5 doors.
4. Lease most likely.
Trying to convince my wife on an Alfa Romeo Giulia. But thinking about my first born using a Giulia for practice and I'm
![Scared](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/scared.gif)
Mini Countryman and maybe even a BMW 228 Gran Coupe might be the leading contender now.
Have seen a few on the road here (but not a lot, and 1 was on a flatbed tow :what) but it's a very nice looking little SUV.
#4956
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
Have you looked at the Subaru Crosstrek? May not be very sporty, but it fits the AWD and not too big with 5 doors?
#4957
Senior Moderator
Sorry, 4 or 5 doors.
Just can't get over the Subaru styling. Certainly the practical choice though.
Just can't get over the Subaru styling. Certainly the practical choice though.
#4960
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
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