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Old 04-13-2019, 09:23 AM
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NSX might be getting a lil brother...

Soooo, I haven't posted in a while. Have been busy, plus my daily driver has been a '17 Golf R 6MT which I still thoroughly enjoy. But one of the knocks on it for me has always been the sub-par shift quality/rubbery feel of VW manual. Anywhoo, I noticed Civic Type R's are finally being sold at MSRP instead of ridiculous mark up so after a recent test drive it reconfirmed how glorious Honda manual's are and how I miss them dearly.

BUT, the wing. That wing. So bad. I can sort of live with the messiness of the design overall, but can't get past the lame wing. And second knock, I've had pothole induced bubbles in my 19' 35 series tires in the R so WTF was Honda thinking with 30 series rubber on 20's!!!???!!!

Thoughts? Anyone here with a Type R, please commence...
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I don't have one, but no way could I ever be seen in one.

Yuck.
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There are literally dozens of Type Ra for sale at CarMax.
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Could be worse.

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Fibonacci One of only a handful of AZiners that actually has the new gen NSX!

The CTR styling certainly is wild and out there. But from 2nd hand accounts, it appears to be a great driver's car and a great hot hatch. If you're the type of person who is purely DGAF and love the driving experience, then go for it!!! But it is also true that many need to be ok with the outward styling as well....I myself wouldn't completely rule out a CTR purely for styling if I were in a position to make such financial decision...
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We got one in at work, 10,000 or so miles. It's alright, spins in 1st and 2nd kind of surprisingly. It feels like a couple mods could open it up and make it a really fun weekend track car.
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I think the Si sedan is the best bang for the buck... But it has 100 less HP...
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Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery View Post
I think the Si sedan is the best bang for the buck... But it has 100 less HP...
Pretty sure with a Hondata Reflash you can get the SI much closer than 100hp away from the TypeR. Just a thought.
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Wasn't there mention of a CTR with a more subdued wing?

https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post16265678



Maybe hold out for when/if these debut?
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Could be worse.


Deeelish!


Got the itch for some new wheels and my Golf R is now out of warranty.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey View Post
Pretty sure with a Hondata Reflash you can get the SI much closer than 100hp away from the TypeR. Just a thought.
Other than the atrocious styling, the complete package of goodies is better IMHO. Plus I want my LED headlights back, don't think the Si has them. From what I've read, the rev hang issue doesn't exist in the CTR. I will miss having AWD though.
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Pretty sure with a Hondata Reflash you can get the SI much closer than 100hp away from the TypeR. Just a thought.
I was just suprised by how much car you could get for the money when the Si debuted a couple of years ago... With Hondata, that would make for a fun, cheap get-around car!
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Hey man, coming from a NSX and wanna add a CTR, just ask me about it haha!

Here's my NSX and CTR:


You probably can't see it from the picture, but I actually got a bigger wing blade for my CTR:


As for the wheels, you can get a set of 4 front NC1 NSX rims. They are 19x8.5" ET 55 and are forged. The stock CTR 20" rims are also 8.5" with the offset being ET58, so they are very close and shouldn't affect the suspension geometry much. The 20" rims are heavy though at 29lb each. IIRC, the 19" NSX rims are about 20lb each. They are also quite reasonably priced at like $550 each considering that they are forged rims in OEM quality.

I wanted to fit 275 wide tires on mine and wanted to spend less money on tires, so I opted for a set of 18x9.5" forged rims instead.
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Other than the atrocious styling, the complete package of goodies is better IMHO. Plus I want my LED headlights back, don't think the Si has them. From what I've read, the rev hang issue doesn't exist in the CTR. I will miss having AWD though.
Haha, yes! If you are serious about performance, the Si would not satisfy you for sure. You will end up spending a lot of money modding it and still not quite at the CTR level. The 1.5T is still an engine designed for fuel economy rather than performance. Then add in the trick front suspension, LED headlights, the brembo brakes, more features, etc, it's worth the "ugliness" IMO. :P

The CTR's transmission is fantastic and there's very little rev hang. It's there, but nowhere near the amount found in the Si. The shifting feel isn't as good as a S2000, but then again, I don't think there are many cars out there that can compete with the S2000 when it comes to shift quality and feel.

In daily driving, you don't see the rear wing. Honda designed it such that you won't really see it in your mirrors. So don't worry about seeing the big @$$ wing while driving...lol.

As for coming from the outside, then yes, the CTR would stand out for sure. But It's something that you will get used to in a month or two.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
Other than the atrocious styling, the complete package of goodies is better IMHO. Plus I want my LED headlights back, don't think the Si has them. From what I've read, the rev hang issue doesn't exist in the CTR. I will miss having AWD though.
Absolutely agree the performance would be much better and I would want the overall CTR package as well. It would just be a much better drive I think. Yeah it would have been nice if the CTR was AWD.
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That is a nice pair of cars you have there iforyou
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Hey man, coming from a NSX and wanna add a CTR, just ask me about it haha!
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You probably can't see it from the picture, but I actually got a bigger wing blade for my CTR:
I opted for wing delete, will post pics after my black CTR gets carbon paint protection this weekend.


As for the wheels, you can get a set of 4 front NC1 NSX rims. They are 19x8.5" ET 55 and are forged. The stock CTR 20" rims are also 8.5" with the offset being ET58, so they are very close and shouldn't affect the suspension geometry much. The 20" rims are heavy though at 29lb each. IIRC, the 19" NSX rims are about 20lb each. They are also quite reasonably priced at like $550 each considering that they are forged rims in OEM quality.
Interesting, hadn't thought of the NSX OEM front's as replacements. I'm shocked that they are that cheap as HMC charges more than a grand for the heavy 20's. I'm looking to sell mine anyone can PM me if they wish to pick up the full set with less than 12 miles. I bought OZ 18's on 245/45 series Pirelli P zero's out of the gate which weigh only 18 lbs. Wanted more sidewall for pothole protection but they are a touch too squishy, may keep them for winter wheels.

Overall, this car feels more substantial than the Golf R. I loved my time in the golf but as it was approaching almost 40k miles felt it was the right time to release. 17's were the last year before VW went to the 6yr/72k bumper to bumper warranty and would probably still have my R if it was still covered. I wish the CTR had more traction from a dig, but that is to be expected. Also the R had more useable torque, it takes longer for the CTR to build grunt but has better top end at the red line. Am still getting used to the proportions as the R had a smaller foot print and the belt line is higher so need to get more comfortable with the added dimension. It's weird, the R is heavier but the CTR feels more planted. No comparison in the shift quality, better brakes and more dialed in suspension overall. The CTR is a better car, i just wish it had SH-AWD too.

More to come, but pleased so far.
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