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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Si i'm new to this community and I have been browsing copart for a little while and found a decent looking 2003 acura cl with 138,000 miles. the website is http://www.copart.com/c2/onSaleResults.html?_eventId=getLot&execution=e24s2 &lotId=20331499

My question is, how much money would you give to bid on this car if you were the one that wanted to buy it. Please and thank you.
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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errr. the car is broken. 100 bucks
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Damn that shit is fucked up

Get an estimate on how much it will cost to be repaired IF you purchase it. Then go on KBB and get an estimate on how much it would be worth if it hadn't had been wrecked. Compare the numbers and find a nice medium. Remember to shoot lower because it has a salvage title now.
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Damn that shit is fucked up

Get an estimate on how much it will cost to be repaired IF you purchase it. Then go on KBB and get an estimate on how much it would be worth if it hadn't had been wrecked. Compare the numbers and find a nice medium. Remember to shoot lower because it has a salvage title now.
No, it's a clean title. Just a bit messed up. so it's worth like 10 grand on kbb. If i fix it myself, it will cost around $2000 or less.
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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it looks like you really needto do your homework on that site. I saw this for the 1st time on speed network today
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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$4-5K?
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sports265
No, it's a clean title. Just a bit messed up. so it's worth like 10 grand on kbb. If i fix it myself, it will cost around $2000 or less.
Ah gotcha. I would offer $6000
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Ah gotcha. I would offer $6000
you serious lol? 138,000 miles damaged. I was thinking around 2-3k. btw i'm looking for my first car
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Shit I forgot about the milage hahaha. Yea $3000 sounds very reasonable.
Old Nov 14, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Shit I forgot about the milage hahaha. Yea $3000 sounds very reasonable.
haha thx lol. What the fuss with the auto trannies? and how much will a manual last me?
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 05:55 AM
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I would pay $2500 tops! Airbags are very expensive and in some states you need to buy them new - stealership

Mileage isn't that great either.
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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I wouldn't buy it at all. I would put all of the money I would reasonably bid, plus the money I would have to use on repairs and combine it into the purchase of a working, reliable car.
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
I wouldn't buy it at all. I would put all of the money I would reasonably bid, plus the money I would have to use on repairs and combine it into the purchase of a working, reliable car.
I guess someone with a little money to spare can make a few bucks on this car. Fix it up real nice and sell it for profit. Clean title with a salvage history means someone could get a killer deal on a CL. It takes time to sell a salvage vehicle but the money can be great.
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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^ Sure, if you have the time, money, patience, and knowledge. IMO, there's usually unforeseen costs with repairing a car, despite how much research you put into what you think needs to be done and the cost of parts. You just never really know until you take it apart and get working. Airbags alone are pretty expensive.

I guess it all depends on what the OP's plans are. Personally, if I needed a car for myself (not a project car to sell), I would purchase something drive-ready and with less miles.
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
^ Sure, if you have the time, money, patience, and knowledge. IMO, there's usually unforeseen costs with repairing a car, despite how much research you put into what you think needs to be done and the cost of parts. You just never really know until you take it apart and get working. Airbags alone are pretty expensive.
....Referring to cars that have been in an accident, not an old beater that just needs some parts replaced and TLC.
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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With that kind of mileage and in good shape, forget KBB. They inflate the numbers to unrealistic levels. If I had one of those to sell and it was in good shape with that kind of mileage, it's probably worth $6k-$7k MAX. I would offer $2k-$3k the most in that condition. Offer $1k and see if they bite...What's the worst thing they can do? Say No?

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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
^ Sure, if you have the time, money, patience, and knowledge. IMO, there's usually unforeseen costs with repairing a car, despite how much research you put into what you think needs to be done and the cost of parts. You just never really know until you take it apart and get working. Airbags alone are pretty expensive.

I guess it all depends on what the OP's plans are. Personally, if I needed a car for myself (not a project car to sell), I would purchase something drive-ready and with less miles.
Yeah sitting behind a computer and guessing what's wrong with the car is like finding a needle in a haystack. If the OP was to see the car in person that could answer a lot of questions.

Speaking of unforeseen costs, I had a 1999 Eclipse Spyder that I bought wrecked from Cicero Auction. I knew it had minor body damage but then found out the engine needs to be replaced. Originally I calculated all repairs to be about $1200, after the new engine I was almost $2200 in debt
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
With that kind of mileage and in good shape, forget KBB. They inflate the numbers to unrealistic levels. If I had one of those to sell and it was in good shape with that kind of mileage, it's probably worth $6k-$7k MAX. I would offer $2k-$3k the most in that condition. Offer $1k and see if they bite...What's the worst thing they can do? Say No?

Can't you run it through the auction with the clean title? Or you have to let them know it has a salvage history?

I know it's not going to bring much there, probably better to sell it on ebay or craigslist (once it's fixed of course).
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by alexSU
Can't you run it through the auction with the clean title? Or you have to let them know it has a salvage history?

I know it's not going to bring much there, probably better to sell it on ebay or craigslist (once it's fixed of course).
No, the auctions know EVERYTHING. There are ways to go around the salvage thing though, just not sure how it works. Considering everything that is wrong with this car (especially the title condition), the OP should be able to rob this car for a grand at the most, IMO...
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alexSU
I would pay $2500 tops! Airbags are very expensive and in some states you need to buy them new - stealership

Mileage isn't that great either.
http://www.fivestarairbags.com :wink:

These guys saved me a ton of money years ago when I fixed my Thunderbird after my idiot friend crashed into a sign. Both airbags deployed and I was considering junking the car when I ran across this site. Great service and killer price in my case. Both airbags and airbag module came out to $300 shipped! I installed them myself and it was good as new! No airbag/SRS lights or anything.
Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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I'd be far more worried about the front subframe and other hidden damage than I would about the airbags.

Unless you are buying it to strip it, RUN AWAY.
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 02:13 AM
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that looks to be a lot of work to fix.....................that car
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
that looks to be a lot of work to fix.....................that car
And I'm never sold on repairs to that area of a car will not lead to recurring problems down the road.
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
And I'm never sold on repairs to that area of a car will not lead to recurring problems down the road.
If I buy a salvage car, I look for the damage to be on the sides or rear. Anything to the front could have some serious problems, like you said.
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
No, the auctions know EVERYTHING. There are ways to go around the salvage thing though, just not sure how it works. Considering everything that is wrong with this car (especially the title condition), the OP should be able to rob this car for a grand at the most, IMO...
I've seen dealers buy cars that have slight damage but with a clean title. They fix it up and sell it without ever telling anyone. I don't know how cars like that don't get arbitrated??

$1000 would be an awesome price for the CL!
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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that car will never drive straight
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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i would never buy it. previously modified, it was wrecked, has supension damage which will cause it to pull. frame damage by how the engine is sitting crooked and its missing an intake.

not to mention the shitty paint.
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Run.... then spend your money on a car that works and will be reliable...
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Run.... then spend your money on a car that works and will be reliable...
dude I have 5 months, me and my dad have bought about 5 cars from this auction. So anyways what would be your better choice, 2002-2003 fully loaded nissan maxima, 2000-2001 honda prelude, 2002-2003 acura tl, or 2002-2003 acura cl.
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
And I'm never sold on repairs to that area of a car will not lead to recurring problems down the road.


Front end damage like that on a front wheel drive car = Will never drive like new again.. Trust me on this.
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Originally Posted by sports265
dude I have 5 months, me and my dad have bought about 5 cars from this auction. So anyways what would be your better choice, 2002-2003 fully loaded nissan maxima, 2000-2001 honda prelude, 2002-2003 acura tl, or 2002-2003 acura cl.
All of those cars are great. Just depends what you like. You got 2 coupes in there and 2 sedans, do you need the extra room? Obviously pick the one with the least miles. All depends what your looking for.

Personally I would go with the TL I loved my 2G TL.
Old Nov 17, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
With that kind of mileage and in good shape, forget KBB. They inflate the numbers to unrealistic levels. If I had one of those to sell and it was in good shape with that kind of mileage, it's probably worth $6k-$7k MAX. I would offer $2k-$3k the most in that condition. Offer $1k and see if they bite...What's the worst thing they can do? Say No?

the market value on a salvage is a few thousand less than kbb. But it really comes down to what someone would pay for a salvage. They are hard to sell.
If it was a theft recovery with only cosmetic things like stolen seats or just some parts, those aren't too bad.
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