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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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Mr. Maker's Collision Thread

As some of you may know, I work for Hendrick Automotive Group. I am the parts manager for 4 independent collision centers Mr. Hendrick has located here in southern Virginia. I've been meaning, for a long time, to create a thread to show the process in which cars are repaired. I Hope to update the thread regularly with jobs from start to finish. I can also answer any questions you all have.


Our newest location. Where my office is located.

1204131153 by The Mr. Maker, on Flickr







Here is an Odyssey we did a while back. Major front end damage. Both frame rail ends bent. Whole front end replacement. Bumper, absorber, reinforcement, radiator support, rails, upper rails etc. This is where I started to document the repair.



Odysseus build by The Mr. Maker, on Flickr

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Upper rail majorly pushed back.

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Frame rails.


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We are replacing the the rails back to the firewall.

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Engine stuff.

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Getting the upper rail and frame rails in place.

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Odysseus build by The Mr. Maker, on Flickr

Here you see the overhead arm on the frame bench. It gives the specifications for whatever vehicle you're working on. Measures down to the mil. General rule of thumb is 3,2,1. Which means; The height must measure within 3 mil of specs, width 2 mil, and depth 1 mil to meet requirements.

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The arm sends the readings to the computer.

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Then, a lot of welding.

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Seam sealer just like when it left the factory.

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Primer all the welds.

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Front end primed.

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Painted.

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Motor going home.

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Bottoms up!

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Fenders on and cut in. Meaning the backside gets painted first.

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Turns out the the engine had a crack in the block after it was all put back in. Fluid begin leaking. So we had to pull it back out and get a used one.

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Used motor in. Off to paint.

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Odysseus build by The Mr. Maker, on Flickr

Brand new again!

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0522141557a by The Mr. Maker, on Flickr



I hope guys enjoy the effort. A lot of car enthusiast don't get to see what happens behind the lines.

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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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Very cool, but is it worth the cost?
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Very cool, but is it worth the cost?
If the insurance company repairs the car, they have determined that yes it is.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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We where close on this one after the motor issue. It's a 2012 though. The thresh hold must be around 70% of the vehicles worth.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
If the insurance company repairs the car, they have determined that yes it is.
But, in the initial estimate, insurance didn't factor in the the motor issue.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:11 PM
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wow that is a intensive rebuild...
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Maker
But, in the initial estimate, insurance didn't factor in the the motor issue.
Hidden damage is what can pop up and bite them in the ass.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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Sub'd. Looking forward to the thread.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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this thread gave me a boner!

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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing and of course sub'd for future updates.

Question - how does it play out if the cracked engine block pushes the repair beyond the 70% threshold. Looks like there was a fair amount of parts and labor already into the Ody.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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Yeah, I'm honestly surprised it wasn't totaled.

Very cool pictures!
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Looks like a pretty nice facility. Definitely nicer than the old body shop we had when I was working at the local Chevrolet dealer while in college.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 04:18 PM
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quick questions.

How do you determine what kind of used motor (same car) to put it on there?

I mean does it have to be the same year/mileage/condition as the original one or it is whatever you guys can get?
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 04:36 PM
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nice insight there mr. maker
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NBP04TL4ME

Question - how does it play out if the cracked engine block pushes the repair beyond the 70% threshold. Looks like there was a fair amount of parts and labor already into the Ody.
I would say it highly depends on how far they are into and how much they have spent on the repair. Sometimes the insurance company has to take it up the wazoo.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Awesome thread. Looking forward to more updates
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:39 PM
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Love this thread already! Thanks for the walk through on the Oddy. Can't wait to see what else you show.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:42 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I can't imagine dealing with all that. It's bad enough working with bodyshops - I can't imagine managing four of them
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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Mr. Makers Boss: Say, why are you surfing the internet at work?
Mr. Maker: Sorry, it's this damn Acurazine. So additive.
Mr. Makers Boss: Acura what? Lemme see...
Mr. Maker: So it's a automotive message board (and blah, ba, blah, blah blah)

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Mr. Makers Boss: I should fire you for surfing the interwebz when you should be working, but I tell you what... If you create a post that promotes the shop then you can keep your job.
Mr. Maker: DEAL!

[Maker creates excellent post and shows boss]

Mr. Makers Boss: Good job! You are useful afterall.
Mr. Maker: Thanks boss!

[Now Mr. Maker can go on Acurazine all he wants when at work. WINNING!]

The End.

P.S. I didn't know that shops still did that kind of work. I thought they all just removed and replaced. Good stuff.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 07:33 PM
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Very cool, wrong color cylinders though.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Pics are overexposed.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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Where does the boner magic happen?
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 08:16 PM
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Cool thread, Mr. Maker. It's nice to see what goes into such an extensive repair.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Cool thread! Looking forward to updates.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Great thread, Maker. Now I get to see what goes on behind the scene.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 10:22 PM
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Glad this thread is about Mr. Maker's work rather than involvement in an accident!
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mattg
Hidden damage is what can pop up and bite them in the ass.


Originally Posted by oonowindoo
quick questions.

How do you determine what kind of used motor (same car) to put it on there?

I mean does it have to be the same year/mileage/condition as the original one or it is whatever you guys can get?
We try to find the lowest mileage out there first. Or try to get as close as possible.

Originally Posted by NBP04TL4ME
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing and of course sub'd for future updates.

Question - how does it play out if the cracked engine block pushes the repair beyond the 70% threshold. Looks like there was a fair amount of parts and labor already into the Ody.
We caught that at the very end of the build. That crack was SO small and hard to see. There was no going back.

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Thanks for sharing. I can't imagine dealing with all that. It's bad enough working with bodyshops - I can't imagine managing four of them
It's only bad when things go wrong. As long as I train my guys the proper procedure and they stick to it it's all good. I do have one cursed location. been through 4 guys in 4 years. Each one fucked billing and had returns stacked up like crazy. But the new guy I got there now is good.

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Where does the boner magic happen?
Why don't you have a seat over here...

0905141520 by The Mr. Maker, on Flickr

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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Small world. I brought my TSX to a Hendrick Collision Center in Concord, NC for hail damage (fixed) and after my accident (totaled).

I like the way Hendrick facilities are run, I bought my TSX from Hendrick Acura and will likely purchase a VW from a Hendrick VW dealership.

Can you hook my up with an employee discount?
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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Glad you enjoyed your experience. Not sure there is much a can help with on your car purchase.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 08:44 AM
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Maker
Glad you enjoyed your experience. Not sure there is much a can help with on your car purchase.
Forgot the red text when I posted that
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 09:16 AM
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Awesome. Its nice to see some behind the scenes pics to show those that all they can say is "it will never be the same" or that "metal that is bent is weaker and i dont trust repairs" to show whats actually involved
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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A little more back ground on me. I've been in my current position for 5-6 years. However, I've been around the car business my whole life. My dad has been in the game for 35 years. He is the manager of the Hendrick Chevrolet dealership here in Norfolk as well as the Hendrick Cadillac dealership. The Chevy store has one of the biggest and well stock parts departments on the east coast. I grew up playing hide and go seek there. My dad has pictures of him chilling with Dale Sr. as well as many other drivers. He has waved checkered flags and driven pace cars for races. I hope I can accomplish half of what he has. I started off delivering parts in my early 20s. Then I began an apprenticeship learning body repair. I worked as a body tech for a few years before given the opportunity to learn the part side of things.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Awesome. Its nice to see some behind the scenes pics to show those that all they can say is "it will never be the same" or that "metal that is bent is weaker and i dont trust repairs" to show whats actually involved
Exactly. There is so much more involved and strict guidelines to a proper repair. You get popped on a re-inspect and you're fucked.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Virginia Vikings?!
Uncle is die hard. Sucked me in.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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I should have started this thread a long time ago. I just talk about cars all damn day. I come here to bullshit and talk about my boner.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 09:43 AM
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Nice!
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Pics are overexposed.
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