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Old 05-19-2008, 09:47 PM
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Motortrend Comparo: GS460 vs XF vs 550i vs E550

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Wow it won in Edmunds comparo too. Just right about the time when Ford decides to sell Jaguar.
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Ford really is the Ziggy of automakers. If Jag could add a respectable entry level sedan in the $35-45k range they will officially be back in the game.

I wonder how the Infiniti M50 would fare in this contest....though I suspect it would bump the XF to 2nd place.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Ford really is the Ziggy of automakers. If Jag could add a respectable entry level sedan in the $35-45k range they will officially be back in the game.

I wonder how the Infiniti M50 would fare in this contest....though I suspect it would bump the XF to 2nd place.
i doubt it...infiniti doesn'tgo that extra mile on interiors. they do a good job but not class leading
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I think it looks like meh.
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I think it looks like meh.
Agreed...I don't get all the hype surrounding the styling of the Jag, its the worst looking one out of the bunch. Interior looks pretty hot though..
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Ive always been a huge fan of Jaguar... (yes, even the X and Stypes...)

But this car is just incredible. This thing is placed below the XJ correct? Im interested in seeing if the XJ's next redesign follows the same lines of this new XF.

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Originally Posted by Loseit
i doubt it...infiniti doesn'tgo that extra mile on interiors. they do a good job but not class leading
Originally Posted by Automobile Magazine
Matte rosewood trim or aluminum swoop and sweep across the M's instrument panel in a design purportedly inspired by a piano keyboard. Nissan's cost cutters did not show up for this particular recital, so the cabin materials, if not best in class (Audi), are on par with Mercedes and superior to Cadillac.
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• Décor. Rosewood trim on some models is real. Aluminum on others is, too. No faux. That's a statement of integrity.
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The M's interior is one of the nicest, most well-thought-out cabins we've seen from Infiniti. The front seats are separated by a wide console the joins to a wave-like dash. Though comfortable, the space between the console and the front door feels a bit confining and the passenger side power seat does not include a tilt up feature. Rear seat passengers, on the other hand, enjoy ample room in all directions. Soft wood treatments and rich interior colors really help the M stand apart from the competition.
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Anywhooo in comparo test with most mainstream publishers, the Infiniti M seems to come in first place more often than not:

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styling is so subjective.

but i think it's becoming clearer that jaguar did themselves well with the XF.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
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Anywhooo in comparo test with most mainstream publishers, the Infiniti M seems to come in first place more often than not:

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Some people assume that just because it's a Nissan product that it must have an interior from a 2002 Altima.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Some people assume that just because it's a Nissan product that it must have an interior from a 2002 Altima.
I actually work at an Infiniti dealership, and I get to be in these cars all day long. Although the M's interior is nice, there are a lot of cheap little bits and pieces IMO. The seats are class-leading however. I still think the Acura RL has the nicest interior in the price range. Its too bad the rest of the car falls short...
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
I actually work at an Infiniti dealership, and I get to be in these cars all day long. Although the M's interior is nice, there are a lot of cheap little bits and pieces IMO. The seats are class-leading however. I still think the Acura RL has the nicest interior in the price range. Its too bad the rest of the car falls short...
i can see that, and i'll definitely respect your opinion since you work for infinti and sit in their cars a lot more than any of us. (well, any of us that don't own one.)

however, i do agree with F23A4 that there is a bias against nissan/infiniti interiors because they are nissans/infinitis.

i think they've come a long way over the past few years.
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people like to tout how great acura interiors are, but just 5 years ago, Acura interiors were looking like this:



Anyone have an urge to go bowling?

And I like the current RL's interior design and layout better than the Infiniti M's interior, from the cool blue ambient lighting to the rear window and rear door sunshades, but after test driving both extensively and owning an M, there are more cheap interior bits in the current RL than there are in the M.
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
people like to tout how great acura interiors are, but just 5 years ago, Acura interiors were looking like this:



Anyone have an urge to go bowling?

And I like the current RL's interior design and layout better than the Infiniti M's interior, from the cool blue ambient lighting to the rear window and rear door sunshades, but after test driving both extensively and owning an M, there are more cheap interior bits in the current RL than there are in the M.
I actually really liked that 2G TL interior design. It was very ergonomic, and the design was decent for the time.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
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Anywhooo in comparo test with most mainstream publishers, the Infiniti M seems to come in first place more often than not:

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Consumer Reports
i love the M45. Drove one today. But, trust me ... go see the jag. The interior is light years better than the M.
And the M rides a little rough. Granted it had the 19's....
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I actually really liked that 2G TL interior design. It was very ergonomic, and the design was decent for the time.
I agree, ergonomic and decent design for the time, yes. But quality materials compared to its rivals at the time, hells no! It was embarassring with that "black wood"...I told people it was "marble" trim just so they wouldn't laugh if I said it was supposed to be wood.

The rl interior at that time was just as bad, if not even more dated.
At least the plood was normal color on that rl.
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i love the M45. Drove one today. But, trust me ... go see the jag. The interior is light years better than the M.
And the M rides a little rough. Granted it had the 19's....
I haven't seen the new jags interior in person, but n pictures, it does look hotter thab anything on the market cirrently.
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
I agree, ergonomic and decent design for the time, yes. But quality materials compared to its rivals at the time, hells no! It was embarassring with that "black wood"...I told people it was "marble" trim just so they wouldn't laugh if I said it was supposed to be wood.

The rl interior at that time was just as bad, if not even more dated.
At least the plood was normal color on that rl.
Uh, the interior of the 3 series, IS, C-class, and I35, or even the G35 weren't any better at the time. The C-class and the G were probably the worst off
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^ I'm going to have to agree... the 03-04 G35 interior was fucking disgusting...
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I disagree with the I35 though. IMHO and though not top flight, it had an interior that I wish my 02 Maxima possessed.

That said, all of the cars mentioned by Jaber are entry level. The subject cars in this thread are premium level, whose predecessors should have better quality than the entry level models.
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