MotorTrend.com has pics of the TL-S and the RL from the LA Auto Show...

Here are clips:



The Acura TL sedan has been treated to over 500 improvements for the 2002 model year, including an edgier front-end appearance. Less obvious are the myriad refinements, such as aerodynamic side mirrors, improved brake feel, reduced road noise, and enhanced radio reception. Standard creature comforts have expanded to include six-disc in-dash CD changer, seat memory, auto-up driverŐs window, tilt headrests, and 0.8-g-capable cupholder. Best news is the addition of a Type-S model with 260-horsepower, sporty suspension, and minor styling differentiation.

Note the aerodynamic mirrors! Hope we can swap em. Wonder if theyll make the TL in red?

The RL looks almost unchanged... heres the link...

http://www.motortrend.com/autoshows/la01/

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

I guess the 270 hp stuff wasn't so...

 

SIGH.....time to win the Lotto!!

Man I really can't wait to see those cars up in person.

Tw1112

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My CL

 

The wheels look a lil different then ours. Dont stick out as much it seems.

The rest of the car just looks like a CL, heh.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

i have heard from my acura dealership saying that the next acura rl will be very expensive than the current one..will be something like $50000~$70000 .. cause honda is going to release a rear wheel drive and V8 engine for the new acura RL...cool..but too expensive to be expected...will compete the lexus LS 430.....cool

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Red CL Type S.
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hate to say it but i am not impressed

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2001 acura cl type-s
comming soon
2000 accord v6 sedan
1997 4runner
1992 camaro
1993 volvo 850

 

Heres more from Edmunds...







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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

This is a CL Type-S + 2 Extra doors for those fatty azzes who are begging you for a ride in the back!

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Bare Bone Stock Type-S. Plenty of accessories.

 

I honestly like the CL Type S better, the new TL doesn't really look updated at all, just looks the same... *yawn*



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Astroboy out...
2001 Acura Cl Type S: Comptech: Headers, filter, sways, springs, koni shocks, goodridge braided brake lines, full kicker system
1996 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo: H&R Springs and sways, Bilstein shocks

 

Does it get the perf leather??? Doesn't look like it. I've grown to HATE the perforated leather. Leather lotion gets crusted up in the holes if you're not careful when applying. Total PITA!!!

 

any of you guys going to the show this year?

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pays to be young

-99 acura 3.0 CL
-58 Caddy Eldorado Biarritz
-55 chevy suburban (chopped dropped tubbed)

 

My opinion? I like it.

Its just a CL with 2 more doors.

I still prefer a coupe... dont need a people mover.

When I had my TL... I always felt like there was a cavern behind me. So I'm in a coupe phase now... maybe ill need a 4-door again soon... if I do... the new TL is sweet.

I think it is the perfect update to the TL... they kept the current TL's hood creases... while giving it the updated front end of a CL.

And the little improvements are what count... aerodynamic side mirrors, improved brake feel, reduced road noise, and enhanced radio reception... that can make the car 100% better.

Good job Acura... now get back to work.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

Any offical performance number for the TL-S?

I am going to the show to check it out this weekend...

 

is it just me, or are those pics from edmunds showing INSPIRE tail lights on the tl-s?

like the color a lot though...

 

First, I am from a different generation. I've NEVER heard of a 4 door sporty car ! 4 door sedan ???? YESSSSSSSS................TL is now just a copy of the CL.....Oh, did I mention, I HATE 4 DOOR CARS !!!!!

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2001 CL Type S Black/Ebony w/NAVI
1998 Accord Coupe EX-V6
Black Currant Pearl

 

didnt they say just a minor reskin for this year and 03 gets a complete update?

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'01 3.2 CL typeR
Sundance Platinum
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'98 ACCORD V-6 sedan
16" coupe wheels
215/55/16 nitto's

 

isn't the maxima a 4 door sports car?


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pays to be young

-99 acura 3.0 CL
-58 Caddy Eldorado Biarritz
-55 chevy suburban (chopped dropped tubbed)

 

Yeah! 4DSC baby!! And it's getting a 260 hp 3.5 V6!!

I think it would give the TL-S a good run, especially with stick...

 

According to the numbers, the current Maximas with the 222-hp engines and 5-speed manuals are giving the CL-S a run.

As for the new TL, it looks great! I kind of wish I had waited. I really like the lines much better than on the CL.


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2001 Acura CL-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
Wheel Locks
Tint
Splash Guards
PIAA Bulbs
Still trying to find a K&N filter!

 

Unless Maxima puts in a 5-speed auto, it will be slow off the line (with auto). Hope they beef up their clutch. Still, had many good years with mine. Acura service etc is much, much, better (Nissan -- been there, done that).

Hmmmm -- I wonder if Acura's 3.5 is a bored-out 3.2 block?


[This message has been edited by EricL (edited 01-05-2001).]

 

I like the new TL, kind of wish they'd add a 5-speed to their TL/CL lineup.

Not that I'm complaining but the CL-S with a manual would be AWESOME!

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Sundance Gold CL-S
Spoiler, Navi, mud flaps,
35% tint, air horns,
remote starter
Comptech springs & sways are next!

 

I used to have a 95 MAx, and a 2000 Maxima SE auto before I traded it in for the CL-S, and honestly the auto does not compare in acceleration against the CL-S. Actually, I thought my 95 was faster than the 2000 off the line, but once you get up to the higher speeds the 2000 is definitely faster. But I do think the 2000 5spd Max would definitely give the CL-S is pretty good run.

 

My Maxima SE automatic would fly on the freeway, but it just didn't move well off the line. I was getting killed all the time by junk boxes on city streets. Once that thing was on cam, and on the freeway, it was quick. (I don't doubt you)

 

(I know that this isn't a Max forum), but I once beat a GS300 in a race with my 2000 Max, it was pretty close from the start, but at about 70mph, the max really started to pull away...it really does do well at higher speeds.

 

The Detroit auto show is happening here in a few(?) weeks and is supposed to be on display... I'll see if I can get some picts of the 'new' TL with my new digicam.

It will only hold 245 shots at the best resolution so I'll need to be judicious in choosing what I shoot (like 230 of the 'car' babes and the rest for the 'type S'... especially of the rear doors.

Are you guys ready for LIFE-SIZE pictures?

 

what happened to real fog lights?

they get the same front end as the cl, i wish they just gave us the japanese front end rather than ours.

and what happened to the integra unveiling? i thought it was the same time.

[This message has been edited by mrdeeno (edited 01-05-2001).]

 

is it just me or is the grille look like a mazda 626, or a 02 millenia

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2001 acura cl type-s
comming soon
2000 accord v6 sedan
1997 4runner
1992 camaro
1993 volvo 850

 

What is the difference? huh? I think all these facelift stuff are bullshit, including the stupid RL, which gains 15hp to 225hp after five years, Acura is somehow too slow in making new cars now. Too many disappointments for me, no wonder Toyota and Lexus sell way more cars than Honda and Acura do.

 

The Integra replacement, will debut at the Detroit auto show in a week or two. It is the RS-X which will supposedly be a prototype of the production model.

Hopefully the RS will be radically different that the current generation. That will be the real test for Acura since the Integra/RS is their bread & butter.

 

wonder why they chose to display indy BLUE and Monterey BLUE...



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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Blue Sub 6
*Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
*Polarg BlHybrid M-14 Turning Signal/M-4 Side Markers next
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...725&a=10358832

 

Here is a video of the Acura Press Conference...

The TL Type-S portion of the video starts at about 7 minutes in and ends at about 12 minutes in.

http://www.theautochannel.com/cyberc...aias/acura.asx

After seeing the video... Im not too excited. It has a big RL like grill... Mazda Millenia headlights... and some weird fogs.

Has the CL-S wheels... and some shitty looking 16" five spokes in the Premium version.

They say the mirrors are more aerodynamic... but they look just as big, bulky, and flat faced up close.

They didnt mention plusher carpet... the logo on the steering wheel is ugly... might be nicer on a black interior though.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

Is the real spoiler on the TL different than the current add-on for CL/TL?

 

The new Acura corporate color is "Acura Blue." I guess that they're trying to start that campaign with the new models at the shows. The new corporate color will go along with their redesigned logo. See the Motortrend article:

http://www.motortrend.com/news/stories/000229acura.html

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2001 Satin Silver 3.2CL Type-S
Non-Nav, No Mods

 

EricL: The RL engine is a completely different block, a C35. (NSX engine's are C32's and C30's)

Though the MDX engine is related. The head is much like the TL's and CL's, but the bottom end is STROKED and not bored. Stroking the engine increases displacement by quite a bit, but you have more inertia to overcome when the piston has to reverse direction, hence the inherently lower redline, but torqier powerband; perfect for an SUV. Go figure.

Soopa, why so Negative? Also point out that it gets all the nice features of the S, and a few more. 6 disc in dash, memory seats, backup assist mirror, at least Acura has addressed the loud outside mirrors issue as opposed to ignoring it... can't complain there. If the results are lower wind noise at speed, who's to complain? M3 mirrors have about half the real-estate that our mirrors do in reflective area. Yikes. I sat in a friends accord with M3 mirrors, wow, I am thankful for the 27something degrees visibility I have in the TL.

Also many ppl fail to mention that the very much coveted Inspire Tail lights are now standard on the Type S. Ppl have paid up to $600 for those tail lights, and now their standard. And on the TL board, you know they get nothing but hands down praise. You witnessed that firsthand. If the history went back that far, I'd quote you drooling over them like the rest of us have.

I may not speak for everyone, but the TL's tail with inspire's destroy's the CL's tail. Til now, that 260 hp engine was the appeal that made me overlook the somewhat controversial rounded end of the coupe, but now I put all debate to a rest: TL Type S.

Simply my opinion, but I thought some ppl share the same thoughts.

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Kenny
Slow TL

 

Didnt mean to sound negative... just un-excited.

I thought they would add more to it like they did witht he CL over the TL.

All it is, is a CL with 2 more doors.

Even has all the same features. The only thing more the TL has is, an Acura logo on the steering wheel, auto-up window, better mirrors.

Either way... its nice... just less then what I expected.

I dont like the headlights... they look like a direct copy of the new Millenias. But apart from that... I like it all... Im glad they kept the back end of the current TL... I always thought that was its best side.

And I am glad they addressed the mirror issue... but I am skeptical... they barely look different.

But... overall... good improvement... its a nearly perfect car. Just dont know why they would copy Mazda design in the headlights?!?!

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

ahhh yeaaa!
I knew blue was sumthin special

{muhaha}

Soop's pic of the TL-S initially reminded me
just for a *split second* of the Mercedes S500 series..just a tad I mean cuz the pic looks like its a wide phat corporate sedan

Dunno but the eyez aren't as impressive as the ones on the CL...which are incredibly sexy to me


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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Blue Sub 6
*Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
*Polarg BlHybrid M-14 Turning Signal/M-4 Side Markers next
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...725&a=10358832


[This message has been edited by KavexTrax (edited 01-06-2001).]

 

I found the perfect solution to this problem. When you are using the lotion, just make sure you have a toothpick handy. When it gets stuck in the leather, just use teh toothpick and pick it out. Works fine for me!

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~Phil~!
2K1 CL-S since 6/13/00 named Laetitia! Quantum tint, hyper-white road lamps, and I just got a spoiler on baby!!

Former post count : 460

 

r cl's going to get the auto up feature

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2001 acura cl type-s
comming soon
2000 accord v6 sedan
1997 4runner
1992 camaro
1993 volvo 850

 

Excerpt from F=ma
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Though the MDX engine is related. The head is much like the TL's and CL's, but the bottom end is STROKED and not bored. Stroking the engine increases displacement by quite a bit, but you have more inertia to overcome when the piston has to reverse direction, hence the inherently lower redline, but torqier powerband; perfect for an SUV. Go figure.
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Thanks for the info. I know about piston speeds and stroking. Good for torque, but makes for high piston speeds. I was curious about the possibility of the 3.5 liter being a bored-out 3.2, but you've answered that question.

Hmmmm, the BMW M3 is now running with F1 piston speeds (hope it lasts), so I wonder if the 3.5 could actually be reworked for good top end *or* is it too undersquare at this point..

Oh, well... I'll be dreaming/inventing/etc.

 

Actually to be more thorough EricL the J30A1 (Accord V6) engine is the oldest form of the engine we see, if you bore that out you'll get a J32, or a CL/TL engine. Stroke that and you'll get a J35, an MDX engine.

Of course its quite a bit more complicated than that, but the displacement will be right.

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Kenny
Slow TL