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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:50 AM
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We are currently in market for GS350/450 to replace our old 2003 Lexus RX300, was wondering if they are planning on coming out with 5th gen any time soon?

I know the 4th gen came out like 2-3 years ago, so thought maybe they might do a little face lift or something?

Do you guys think this is the best to buy that car right now, or just wait a little until the end of the year?


I know my dad is pretty much set going with GS, but is there any other car that we should try looking into? I can only think of M35/45, A6, and 528i, not that my dad will ever go with european car.

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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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The GS hybrid would be awesome. Love how they look, love how they drive. smooth.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:53 AM
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The GS hybrid would be awesome. Love how they look, love how they drive. smooth.
holy hell, that was fast respond.

I honest don't think my dad is into hybrid yet... I would love to get a hybrid, but not sure.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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i normally would expect some kind of a facelift. but i have no idea.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
I know my dad is pretty much set going with GS, but is there any other car that we should try looking into? I can only think of M35/45, A6, and 528i, not that my dad will ever go with european car.
Jaguar XF, Acura RL, Cadillac CTS/DTS.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:31 AM
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Jaguar XF, Acura RL, Cadillac CTS/DTS.
possible reliability issues, butt ugly refresh, hotness...but CTS is a different (smaller) class...DTS is meh.

The GS is plush, has an awesome interior design, very comfy, lexus service.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
Jaguar XF, Acura RL, Cadillac CTS/DTS.
Jaguar XF is a sick car, but bit aggressive and sporty for my dad. He wants more of family seden then sporty seden. I think he wants to look into Porsche down the road so..

Hell no to Acura RL, ugly as hell.

Cadillac CTS is a very nice car, but we never owned an american car before, so we are not sure if we can trust their liability

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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
possible reliability issues, butt ugly refresh, hotness...but CTS is a different (smaller) class...DTS is meh.

The GS is plush, has an awesome interior design, very comfy, lexus service.
bingo. This is why I recommend GS over any other rides within that price range.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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GS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else in it's class
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:42 AM
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go Lexus GS!

you KNEW i was gonna say Lexus for sure!
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Lexus GS!!

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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Since I'm the resident car-guy at my office, a co-worker recently came to me asking for advice in this segment.

I told him to look at the GS, M45, E500 and BMW 535 and told him I personally would go with the GS.

He test drove all of them and ended up with a 2008 GS460. And unless I'm mistake, they aren't due for any kind of re-model or re-fresh until 2010.

to the GS.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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The GS460 is an amazing car but the GS350 is every bit as nice (just a tad slower).

I have very high esteem for the GS.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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the GS is an amazing car. perhaps my favorite car in lexus' lineup.

i've always preferred the looks and drive of the infiniti M, but looks are subjective and there are many that prefer the luxury and plushness of the lexus over the sportier M.

how about the genesis?
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Can't go wrong with the GS. Like someone before said, the GS 350 is just as good as the GS 460. You would be better to wait til the end of the year when Lexus has its 'December to Remember' sales event. We bought a RX330 around that time and they bent over backwards to get rid of it the week after Christmas.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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He should definitely test drive the new Hyundai Genesis. It would fit his criteria nicely (provided he's not into badges)...
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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GS350....not slower then the 460, maybe just a little bit, plus better mileage. my dad has an 350awd, very plush, fast, very smooth ride and hauls ass. the navi though is not as good as you would want but he needs the update disc and not being able to play with the navi while in motion is annoying as hell.

GS is solid, thats my vote.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sclass88
GS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else in it's class

Originally Posted by Revolutions
go Lexus GS!

you KNEW i was gonna say Lexus for sure!
hahaha. How's your F treating you?
Originally Posted by jmkiang
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My dad is leannind towards 350 more than 460. One of the reason why we are replacing RX300 because of poor gas mileage.

Originally Posted by bgsm1th
Since I'm the resident car-guy at my office, a co-worker recently came to me asking for advice in this segment.

I told him to look at the GS, M45, E500 and BMW 535 and told him I personally would go with the GS.

He test drove all of them and ended up with a 2008 GS460. And unless I'm mistake, they aren't due for any kind of re-model or re-fresh until 2010.
to the GS.
Nice. thanks, boss. We are going to test drive both and see if there is any huge differences between 350 and 460.

Originally Posted by charliemike
The GS460 is an amazing car but the GS350 is every bit as nice (just a tad slower).

I have very high esteem for the GS.
My dad doesn't care about the speed, more for the luxury side.

thank you.

Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
the GS is an amazing car. perhaps my favorite car in lexus' lineup.

i've always preferred the looks and drive of the infiniti M, but looks are subjective and there are many that prefer the luxury and plushness of the lexus over the sportier M.

how about the genesis?
I will let him know about the genesis...

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I'm not even going to bother to tell about the RL.

Originally Posted by roushracin
Can't go wrong with the GS. Like someone before said, the GS 350 is just as good as the GS 460. You would be better to wait til the end of the year when Lexus has its 'December to Remember' sales event. We bought a RX330 around that time and they bent over backwards to get rid of it the week after Christmas.
End of year? hmm.. Okay, I should be down in Cali by then. I'm gonna try my best to bring down much as possible.
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He should definitely test drive the new Hyundai Genesis. It would fit his criteria nicely (provided he's not into badges)...
He doesn't care about the badges...

Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
GS350....not slower then the 460, maybe just a little bit, plus better mileage. my dad has an 350awd, very plush, fast, very smooth ride and hauls ass. the navi though is not as good as you would want but he needs the update disc and not being able to play with the navi while in motion is annoying as hell.

GS is solid, thats my vote.
Good to know that 350 isn't too far behind from 460. Like I mention, we are going to test drive both then go from there.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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the 350 will probably be alot smoother engine wise then the 460, partly due to the unique port and direct injection. the motor in the GS350 is the same in the IS350. the GS hauls to 140 with out an issue, this i know....
the only difference between the two is motors and then also the transmissions. the 460 is a 8 speed while the 350 is a 6 speed. better buy with the 350 considering it's 7K less then the 460. between that and the better gas mileage and very similar performance my father bought the 350.

i believe they did a minor face lift on the car last year for 08, since my fathers ins an 07 and looks slightly different but nothing major.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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I'd get the GS over E500 and 528/535 just because of reliability...but if he's planning on getting rid of it once warranty runs out, the BMW Maintenance plan is a nice thing to have.
The M35/M45 is worth checking out as well; I've read many reviews and ppl like them. Although Infinity's depreciation is slightly higher than Lexus. Let us know what you end up getting!
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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lets see, the previous GS was out for 6-7 yrs? so there probably wont be an all new GS until 2012. and the 08 model was the facelift believe it or not (from what ive read on CL)

i would go for the 2009 A6. new 3.0T 300hp engine, facelifted front and rear, awd standard, roomier than a GS
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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I thought there were some quality issues with the GS? I seem to remember hearing about fit & finish issues in the '06, and that Consumer Reports had dropped the "recommended" tag... anybody know anything about this? Was it just minor stuff? Lexus is usually bulletproof, although I know the '07 ES has tranny problems.

One thing that bugged me when I test-drove the GS was the bulge down by my right foot on the AWD model, which is the only one I would get since I'm of RWD cars on the winter roads here in PA. Other than that I liked it. If your dad is up in Seattle, I would think he would get the AWD model, right? If so, make sure he takes it on an extended test drive to see if he's really comfortable in it.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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dont need AWD in seattle, only snows a few days a yr here. just some good tires will work fine.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
the 350 will probably be alot smoother engine wise then the 460, partly due to the unique port and direct injection. the motor in the GS350 is the same in the IS350. the GS hauls to 140 with out an issue, this i know....
the only difference between the two is motors and then also the transmissions. the 460 is a 8 speed while the 350 is a 6 speed. better buy with the 350 considering it's 7K less then the 460. between that and the better gas mileage and very similar performance my father bought the 350.

i believe they did a minor face lift on the car last year for 08, since my fathers ins an 07 and looks slightly different but nothing major.
Good look out.

appreciate it.

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I'd get the GS over E500 and 528/535 just because of reliability...but if he's planning on getting rid of it once warranty runs out, the BMW Maintenance plan is a nice thing to have.
The M35/M45 is worth checking out as well; I've read many reviews and ppl like them. Although Infinity's depreciation is slightly higher than Lexus. Let us know what you end up getting!
We are definitely going to check out M35/45. I think we are pretty much sold to Lexus GS, but who knows.
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lets see, the previous GS was out for 6-7 yrs? so there probably wont be an all new GS until 2012. and the 08 model was the facelift believe it or not (from what ive read on CL)

i would go for the 2009 A6. new 3.0T 300hp engine, facelifted front and rear, awd standard, roomier than a GS
We are concern about the reliability issue down to road with any european cars.
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I thought there were some quality issues with the GS? I seem to remember hearing about fit & finish issues in the '06, and that Consumer Reports had dropped the "recommended" tag... anybody know anything about this? Was it just minor stuff? Lexus is usually bulletproof, although I know the '07 ES has tranny problems.

One thing that bugged me when I test-drove the GS was the bulge down by my right foot on the AWD model, which is the only one I would get since I'm of RWD cars on the winter roads here in PA. Other than that I liked it. If your dad is up in Seattle, I would think he would get the AWD model, right? If so, make sure he takes it on an extended test drive to see if he's really comfortable in it.
My parents are actually from CA, so we are only looking at RWD.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 01:55 AM
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If he doesn't care about badge then definitely try out the Genesis. I drove it and it was very Lexus-like (but at about $10k cheaper)...
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by elessar
I thought there were some quality issues with the GS? I seem to remember hearing about fit & finish issues in the '06, and that Consumer Reports had dropped the "recommended" tag... anybody know anything about this? Was it just minor stuff? Lexus is usually bulletproof, although I know the '07 ES has tranny problems.

One thing that bugged me when I test-drove the GS was the bulge down by my right foot on the AWD model, which is the only one I would get since I'm of RWD cars on the winter roads here in PA. Other than that I liked it. If your dad is up in Seattle, I would think he would get the AWD model, right? If so, make sure he takes it on an extended test drive to see if he's really comfortable in it.
I remember reading that, also. I believe it was the AWD and possibly the hybrid models that had issues.

I've always loved the GS, though. And I love the current model, I'd get one if I had the money.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
holy hell, that was fast respond.

I honest don't think my dad is into hybrid yet... I would love to get a hybrid, but not sure.
word. closed minded about european, i would expect that hybrid is not an option.

go hyundai too. my father was in the market for a decent lease in a luxury SUV, as a "just-in case" hauler. he didnt want to muscle the prices of the euros. long story short, i introduced him to hyundai. he picked up a fully loaded Tuscon. it really rides like a dream and has all the comforts you could ask for. (for the price, that is).

swing by hyundai to check out the genesis. only turn off is most salesman are MORONS. and if your father is closed-minded person, dont mean to judge, it may be difficult to hand $$ over to an incompetent salesman.

korean cars are hard to stomach. until you check out the window sticker and take it for a test drive. plus nothing feels better than finding a father a deal that saves him thousands.

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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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The GS is a great car, however the rear seat is horribly uncomfortable.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by S14 n Tsx
Jaguar XF is a sick car, but bit aggressive and sporty for my dad. He wants more of family seden then sporty seden. I think he wants to look into Porsche down the road so..

Hell no to Acura RL, ugly as hell.

Cadillac CTS is a very nice car, but we never owned an american car before, so we are not sure if we can trust their liability
My mother has an '04 CTS and it has never hiccuped. Runs like a beast. Not a V or anything, but it's definitely nice. The new ones are sex though.

Same with my dads dodge pick-up. He has an '01 2500 and he's never really had many problems at all. He's maybe had 2-3 things that he's had "significant" problems with, which were fixed without a hitch. This is all after he was in a fairly bad accident too. It's still running well with 130K miles.

From what I understand, GM has a pretty good track record of reliability. It's not a Honda, but they aren't old school Audi's either.
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Originally Posted by 2000TaffetaTL
The GS is a great car, however the rear seat is horribly uncomfortable.
really!? its right a midsize competitor to E and 5. i find this hard to believe...
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ThermonMermon
word. closed minded about european, i would expect that hybrid is not an option.

go hyundai too. my father was in the market for a decent lease in a luxury SUV, as a "just-in case" hauler. he didnt want to muscle the prices of the euros. long story short, i introduced him to hyundai. he picked up a fully loaded Tuscon. it really rides like a dream and has all the comforts you could ask for. (for the price, that is).

swing by hyundai to check out the genesis. only turn off is most salesman are MORONS. and if your father is closed-minded person, dont mean to judge, it may be difficult to hand $$ over to an incompetent salesman.

korean cars are hard to stomach. until you check out the window sticker and take it for a test drive. plus nothing feels better than finding a father a deal that saves him thousands.
My dad is pretty open to anything, so we are definitely going to check out genesis. I'm also curious about genesis so yeah..

Originally Posted by 2000TaffetaTL
The GS is a great car, however the rear seat is horribly uncomfortable.
more details? what year, and why that is?
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My mother has an '04 CTS and it has never hiccuped. Runs like a beast. Not a V or anything, but it's definitely nice. The new ones are sex though.

Same with my dads dodge pick-up. He has an '01 2500 and he's never really had many problems at all. He's maybe had 2-3 things that he's had "significant" problems with, which were fixed without a hitch. This is all after he was in a fairly bad accident too. It's still running well with 130K miles.

From what I understand, GM has a pretty good track record of reliability. It's not a Honda, but they aren't old school Audi's either.
Good to hear that you guys didn't had any major problem with yours ride. I will tell him to swing by Caddy dealer sometimes to check out the CTS.
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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I'd get a 550 or E550 without question, but for non-euro I guess the GS is the way to go.
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sitting in the back of a GS i felt claustrophobic
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