SuperTrooper169

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^ Haha thanks for the offer, but they're a little too aggressive for the MS6. The widest I'd go is 8" and +45 offset.

civicdrivr

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JS + XES

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Ordered an Oil Catch Can

I was going to order it after I do the engine cleaning around 20k miles, but I got a sweet deal on a almost brand new one...

http://www.saikoumichi.com/Stage2OCC.htm

hANDYcaptd

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Whoa! Is that how much they normally got for??

I was going to look into those for my car and thought I could get a cheaper one but use quality hoses and fittings. Although that one does look pretty well made!

JS + XES

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It's $160 brand new, I got it for $130 shipped. This is for everything. You have an option of getting a OCC itself.

I don't know which is popular on GTI, you should do some research on it. But, definitely get one for your engine.

There's a long thread on Mazdaspeed forum that did a comparison of various OCC. I forgot the detailed parts on it, but the verdict was "don't cheap out on OCC".

civicdrivr

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Nothing wrong with the $40 Greddy knock-off catch cans on eBay (the square one, not the cylinders). Just make sure you open it and put some steel wool in there to catch the oil (it helps against the vacuum sucking some of the oil back through). Definitely replace the hoses though.

That catch can you got looks pretty nice though.

PS - why does the site say its $110?

JS + XES

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Yeah, there are some members who have gone with those methods. I just didn't like that fact that I have modify a can and get different sets of hoses and whatnot. I'm pretty damn lazy. Hope I don't get too lazy when I get this... LOL

Our local MSF members are having an install meet at the end of August, so I think that's when I'm going to probably install this.

JS + XES

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and who cares about OCC... your AVATAR IS HAWT

who's that?

civicdrivr

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I have no idea who it is. I need to find out.

And I hear you on the laziness part. Ive had my new catch can for nearly a year but Im too lazy to build the bracket, so I just bought a new one that comes with it

JS + XES

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^ come on man.. find out who she is..

And see? That's why I bought a full kit!

JS + XES

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Update on tuning:

Increased timing by 4* from 2500-6k RPM
Set the cooling fan to come on at 194* instead of 215*
Raised the idle speed from 700-750RPM to 900-950RPM which will help the PCV system to run cleaner, i.e. keep more sludge out of your intake manifold

The car is running pretty damn well with this revision! It's the first time adjusting the timing. I've spent about 5 months to dial in the fueling and boosting.

Please don't say increasing timing like that will trash my stock block or something. I'm still on a pretty conservative threshold. ALso, I have about 60 datalogs of WOT runs for the past 5 months to monitor how the car is actually responding to the adjustments that are being made on the tune.

And I don't really drive during the day at all due to work, so the high temp in Socal is not really an issue for my car.

SuperTrooper169

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^ That kind of talk makes me want to get an AP.

vwong

You guys don't know who that is??? Roselyn Sanchez, this was a scene in the movie Boat Trip.

phee

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thats kind of interesting... usually you retard timing and up the boost...

civicdrivr

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We were actually talking about my old avatar. This one:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...6975663324.gif

JS + XES

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It's really fun. I promise. Not just because you get to make more power. It's the learning experience that makes you love your car more.

There are a lot of things you can read in this sub-section called MSF University. There are a lot of tuning experts on MSF actually. If you haven't noticed already, a lot of members' signature has that PERM TUNE emoticon. Those people are the one who had been E-TUNED by this member called DJ. Almost everyone is getting about 30-40whp/wtq just by getting tuned by him without any problems.

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f532/

Can I thank you 200 times?

I'll let my friend wikipedia answer this

Dyno tuning

Setting the ignition timing while monitoring engine power output with a dynamometer is one way to correctly set the ignition timing. After advancing or retarding the timing, a corresponding change in power output will usually occur. A load type dynamometer is the best way to accomplish this as the engine can be held at a steady speed and load while the timing is adjusted for maximum output.

Using a knock sensor to find the correct timing is one method used to tune an engine. In this method, the timing is advanced until knock occurs. The timing is then retarded one or two degrees and set there. After achieving the desired power characteristics for a given engine load/rpm, the spark plugs should be inspected for signs of engine detonation. If there are any such signs, the ignition timing should be retarded until there are none.

Another method for setting up the ignition timing on a load type dynamometer is to slowly advance the timing until the power measured by the dynamometer does not increase anymore, then subtract 1-2 degrees for the final advance value.

JS + XES

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Just to add on the wiki, I'm sure each car reacts differently on adjustment, but I think it's more boost, more timing equals more power, no?

Anyway, at least for MS3 with a stock K04 turbo, 18.5psi - 19psi is the maximum as far as turning up the boost in Cali (shitty gasoline)

Also, the K04 turbos are so small that pushing the boost more than 19psi is just not a good idea. The gain is extremely minimal (diminishing return i guess), but the boost air temp shoots up HIGH.

That's why we dialed in the fueling and boosting part of the tune first. My car is running very safely with those two things dialed in. So, now I'm going to try to advance the timing slowly to see how much can my car can handle. I will slowly up the timing to the point where I get KR. Then, I'll just retard the timing just a little bit on that RPM area where it was giving me KR.

Then, I'll be done till I get any other power mods which will be late next year.

Flipster23

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civic has the best avi's

vwong

No sh1t. Where did he find all those avatars???

civicdrivr

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JS + XES

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Where the eff are you getting those cute gifs???

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CLtotheTL32

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Just stumbled upon this...





Don't worry, I still love your car.

Flipster23

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^ you just found this, this is the best speed3 thread because Bryan is failing at installing an intake, and I even offered to come put it in for him.

JS + XES

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dude you are so 2009.......

There are like series of this.

But I do know that my car looks a little bit funky on the front end!

CLtotheTL32

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Well damn

So since I bumped your thread to post an old ass picture, how's the car?

Flipster23

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I dont see a pic...

JS + XES

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The car's been running really well. It turned out that I couldn't add more than 2-3 degrees anywhere above 5k rpm. I added about 5 degrees from 3k to 5k though. Adding more timing resulted in consistent KR.

I think I'm finally done with my tune with my current performance mods. Fueling, Boosting, and Timing are all dialed in pretty nicely in a safe manner.

I'm going to get a new dogbone style RMM 88D along with a SMM (Side Motor Mount) probably at the end of next month. It's going to cost me only about $100 after I sell my current RMM 75D, so it's not bad at all. This should help me tremendously with minimizing wheel hop.

I don't really launch my car off the line, but when I do I get crazy wheel hop. People have been getting very nice results from swapping out the stock tires with some wider and stickier tires, but that's going to awhile for me. I want to used up all the treads on my stock tires and get a set of rpf1s with some good summer tires next year. When I do get them + Launch Control, it'll help me rocket out off the line.

CLtotheTL32

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RPF1s + sticky tires

JS + XES

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I've seen couple members with that set up..... the car just..... takes off. It chirps a little and goes.

SuperTrooper169

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AWD solves this problem.

JS + XES

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Yep!

But it takes more horses for AWD to match our power!

ttribe

Let's run 'em!

I'll drive over there...you find the place.

JS + XES

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OMG I'll never able to even keep up with you. NEVER. Maybe if I BT and put all the supporting mods, which should cost me about $4k. But I would never do that with my car.

But please visit socal sometimes, I'll treat you some KBBQ, ONLY if you let me drive your M5 once. haha I've driven M3 several times but never driven M5 before.

ttribe

I'll let you know if I'm over that way...test drive is a given.

JS + XES

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Cool man!

phee

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I wanna drive a nice car

CLtotheTL32

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You did for a while...

SuperTrooper169

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Update on the MS3? Done anything new to it lately?

I just ordered some Denso ITV22s for the MS6.

JS + XES

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I've been working and studying (both full-time) for the past 3 months.. and have to continue this for another 9 months..

AND I'm getting married back in Korea next March. I basically have no free time to do anything almost til next summer.

I'm so depressed these days.

When I'm done with all these stuff, I'm going to order a set of lightweight rims with some good meaty tires. Probably going to end up with rpf1s in 17x9. Oh yeah, I'll put in Swift Springs with the combo to drop the car about 1 inch.

Were you getting some KR? The ITV22s should help you out a lot! How's the car running with the Accessport? Made any key adjustments on the tune yet?

jjashaa

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aaron, lmk when you want to get your RPF1... i might be able to get you a better price... hehe