I gotta admit ..he's got a point. The IS2/350 and the Camry do look similar enough that I have to look twice before I know for sure which car I'm looking at.

Also, size wise I know someone who got rid of her civic and got an IS350 because the cars were nearly the same size. I think that speaks volumes ...

 

It wasn't really a joke, just seeing which doofus would try to correct me in attempt to look like a smart ass its okay, better luck next time captain obvious...

 

what? the camry and the IS350 look nothing alike. if you have absolutely no perception of detail and maybe some vision issues, possibly. otherwise no way.

 

you're 19. it's not the car.

 

If you're not paying, are you budgeted? If so, why not get a car that your parents won't have to put a ton of maintenance money into? If you're not budgeted, just get an 08.

 

I am going to be paying for the car and maint., which is why i'm looking for the best deal out there. I'm trying to avoid the early year M3's (01 to 03) and find a decent 04-05 with a manual tranny, black on black, and nav. We'll see though, most of the ones for sale are the converts with SMG

 

...says the guy who posted "You fail at jokes".

 

Hey man, your answer is completely correct.

Though, I think BraveDemon was talking about the AZ member "Manual Transmission". haha

If you don't know him, he's like the msl82 of IS350.

 

 

Was that supposed to be a comeback? Please leave this thread, thanks.

 

This thread is like a car wreck...it's a complete mess...but one can't stop looking.

 

damn people E-thuging hahahhaaa

 

There has been no e-thugging in this thread.

 

Thats usually what happens when you come into a thread trying to be a smart ass and end up getting fried Its okay dude, move on.

 

Seriously....quit while you are ahead.
You claimed a joke, then said it wasn't really a joke.

One thing for certain: Claiming comparisons of an IS to a Camry is a joke.

 

Are you still hung up on the "joke" thing? It really doesn't matter what I call it at this point, you took the bait, now you're trying to find ANY possible excuse to make yourself look like less of an idiot. You should take your own advice...quit while you're ahead

 

Worthless.

YET?

 

Ok kid...if it makes you happy.
Now go tell your mommy.

It's time to this thing up.

 

For the record (and back on topic) I really enjoyed my test drive of the IS350. It wasn't quite as fast as I was expecting for some reason, but the interior was fantastic and I personally love the exterior styling. THe gauges are cool looking and the nav graphics are awesome. I thought it handled fairly well and the steering feel wasn't nearly as bad as most of the mags say. All and all, it was a close runner up to the G and the 335i when I finally went with the Infiniti.....

 

^ I agree with the handling characteristics. My mom owns the IS250, and I don't know if there's a big difference between 250 and 350 in terms of handling capabilities, but I can tell you that it's pretty entertaining to drive fast in the twisties. It's quite stable. I think it feels totally different from my TL (RSB is the only sus mod on my TL) but in a good way (RWD i guess).

I initially had a expectation that IS250 was going to be boring as hell to drive, but I have to say my expectation was truly wrong. And the leather is ridiculously SOFT. How do they do that???

 

to the last two posters who steered this back on track....'cause I came here with the keys in hand.

 

i can see how people may confuse the rearlights of the IS and camry.

however, with that said, the cars don't look anything alike. the difference in size between the two should be telling enough.

i like the IS a lot...i think it's a great car. it's not perfect by any means and the back seats are way too cramped. but i think it's a great looking car, inside and out, and i had fun test driving it.

 

I don't know why but the IS feels much lighter than my TL. How much do they weight? Anyone know?

I've never taken the IS to the limit since it's my mom's car (I'd never do that), so I don't know how they will handle without traction control. However, the IS never made any noise going through those twisties, it was very smooth.

On the other hand, my TL feels heavier and makes a lot of noise whenever I push the car a little through the twisties. Nonetheless, without any major suspension mods, the TL is surprisingly a great handling capabilities. It has a plenty of grip, and the RSB really cuts the body roll in half.

RWD vs. FWD I guess.

 

3527 lbs, a little lighter than a 3G TL. I was expecting it to weigh something like 3600-3800 pounds . I have only been in an older IS300 and an IS F (man does that thing haul ass) so I can't say how an IS350 compares to my brothers 05 TL since the F is a different monster.

 

^ almost 100 lbs lighter....

IS F really is a monster in terms of power..

 

I guess driving an m3 before somewhat ruined the experience its a great car but its too closely priced to the 335, which IMO, is a much better car.

 

depends on what youre looking for. For an enthusiast. its true.

For someone who wants more luxury with a little performance, its great, especially since you get the best dealer/service treatment.

And I have driven the IS350...I like it a lot, but I have always HATED Lexus auto-stick transmissions. The amount of lag when "manually" shifting is horrendous.

I did drive a IS-F on a dyno for 1/4 mile. great exhaust note, much better tranny.

 

Better? It's a very subjective term......

335 and IS350 are great direct competitors in my opinion. It's really hard to tell which one is MUCH BETTER.

Preferences.

 

Agree 100% with Sarlacc.

 

Drive one and its not really hard to tell which is the better car The driving dynamics, road stability, steering feedback, and its extremely linear power deff make it a better car to drive. I took both to about 90-100 and the BMW was without question the better car. At those speeds, it felt as if I was going 40mph and I could handle any turn that would come my way...With the IS, I felt the complete opposite. Too floaty, too soft, and almost zero steering feedback. The steering wheel might as well be a fully electric joystick...And I agree with Sarlacc, the shift times are slow.

The only thing I didn't like about the 335 was the interior design, which is probably where the Lex takes the cake. It is far too bland and uninspired for a 40k+ car. However, I did feel more secure and supported in the 335's seats (sport) vs. the IS. I also liked the steering wheel of the 335 much more, and the buttons didn't feel as cheap/flimsy in the 335. If you press around the radio on the IS you can hear the plastics behind it making wierd noises...the 335 was pretty much solid. That being said, the IS wins everything else as far as interior goes. The gauges on the IS are downright sick

 

lol at least i got a good laugh from them fighting.

is =/= camry but i can see why you would say is is ugly because the two have some characteristics in common

but to me its still not ugly

 

JJaber, maybe the IS350 that you test drove has the luxury package. The sport package improved a little bit over the lux and not as floaty.

 

You know what my car needs? Tints.
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Oh, and the IS is really nice but too pricey

 

Its tint.

 

I'm not sure if there is a sport package, but you can upgrade to Bilsteins which should significantly improve handling. I've only driven an IS350 that was on coilovers, so handling seemed fine to me.

Its not so much the RWD vs FWD, although it has something to do in part with that assumption. Its basically the weight distribution between FWD and RWD vehicles that make the biggest difference in "the heaviness/lightness" of handling, especially in turns.

And I agree, the 3g TL handles very well in the twisties for being a FWD vehicle.