If they only came in STICK
#1
If they only came in STICK
Might be cool to see a list of NEW cars...or certain trims of cars that you wished came in stick shift but dont now. Here are a couple off the top of my head:
Dodge Magnum
Dodge Charger
Lexus GS
Lexus SC
Infiniti FX
Infiniti G35X
Infiniti M
I know there are more, but im tired and they arent coming to me. Lets see wha tyou guys come up with.
Dodge Magnum
Dodge Charger
Lexus GS
Lexus SC
Infiniti FX
Infiniti G35X
Infiniti M
I know there are more, but im tired and they arent coming to me. Lets see wha tyou guys come up with.
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#13
Originally Posted by KLepTo
AMG
/thread here.
/thread here.
I believe a lot of them are available in a manual just not here in the US. Like all the other MB models that are only available in a automatic in the US.
#15
Originally Posted by AcuraFan
Why?
no clue... wierd isn't it.
A total guess... might be because of the demographics. Or possibly like the M3 was never brought over with 340hp until recently. And they still dont offer the same launch controls... same wierd reasons... Americans are bad on their cars... I dunno...
I'm also not sure what models come in a manual in europe vs. the US. I just know they do have ones that are not available to us /w a manual.
#16
Originally Posted by SiGGy
I believe a lot of them are available in a manual just not here in the US. Like all the other MB models that are only available in a automatic in the US.
http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cont...ation/amg.html
Not sure about the rest of europe.
#19
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Aston Martin Vanquish and DB9
"Please Aston Martin, if you're listening, put a standard tranny, PLEASE"
he said this after putting the Vanquish up against a Ferrari 575M.
He said that it took AM 3 months to fix the tranny in the car they gave to Top Gear for their show. The computer controlled tranny kept breaking down on them. They had to send it back more than 3 times if i remember right before it could even finish ONE lap around their race track.
#20
Originally Posted by 2003TLSNKC
They used to make the 7 series in a 5 speed, so they do know that drivers of the large sedan enjoy a good manual. They need to bring it back.
And that car is too big now.
#21
Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
Not with the shifter moved to the steering column.
And that car is too big now.
And that car is too big now.
Oh i know they will never bring it back, there isnt enough electronics in a manual to satisfy the people at BMW. What are you talking about, a 5 or 6 speed in the 12 cyl would be so money.
#27
I don't know why some of you guys would want a 5,000-pound car in a stick. Who in their right mind would drive a pig like a 750i, having to shift through the gears all the time? It just doesn't seem like something too enjoyable. That's like the fact that Hummer makes the H3 in a 5-speed... who the hell wants to shift through the gears with a car that does 0-to-60 in 10 seconds? Find me one person who actually bought that option, and I'll be shocked. And don't tell me because of gas mileage.
Anyway, most cars from the SRT division or the AMG division should have a manual transmission option. To have such high-performance vehicles with a following from those who want large bursts of speed at any given time and not have a stick option is ludicrous.
And for the record, I wish Audi would've opened their eyes last year and made the S4 in DSG, instead of the boring-ass A3 and the extremely homosexual TT.
Anyway, most cars from the SRT division or the AMG division should have a manual transmission option. To have such high-performance vehicles with a following from those who want large bursts of speed at any given time and not have a stick option is ludicrous.
And for the record, I wish Audi would've opened their eyes last year and made the S4 in DSG, instead of the boring-ass A3 and the extremely homosexual TT.
#28
Originally Posted by MattT516
I don't know why some of you guys would want a 5,000-pound car in a stick. Who in their right mind would drive a pig like a 750i, having to shift through the gears all the time? It just doesn't seem like something too enjoyable. That's like the fact that Hummer makes the H3 in a 5-speed... who the hell wants to shift through the gears with a car that does 0-to-60 in 10 seconds?
Comparing hummer acceleration to a 7 series
#29
Originally Posted by FastAcura
Ehhh, I'd love to have a 6 speed in the 750i! Considering the automatics run better 1/4 times than the CL-S 6 speeds, why does it matter how much they weigh? And most AMGs are heavy, too. Does that mean they shouldn't come in sticks?
Comparing hummer acceleration to a 7 series
Comparing hummer acceleration to a 7 series
That being said, I made the point about the H3 because it seems completely inappropriate to me. Who the hell needs a 6000-pound SUV in a stick?
#30
Originally Posted by MattT516
That being said, I made the point about the H3 because it seems completely inappropriate to me. Who the hell needs a 6000-pound SUV in a stick?
#31
I may be way off on this, but what about the ability of manual trannies to handle all that power? I thought the case with the RS6 having an auto was because the 6 speed couldn't handle all that power.
No flames on this, i really don't know what i'm talking about, just something i heard
No flames on this, i really don't know what i'm talking about, just something i heard
#32
Originally Posted by MattT516
You completely misinterpreted my statement, unless I was stating it wrong. The bottom line is certain cars are not produced in stick because it would not exactly be appropriate for the demographic for which the car is being sold. The AMGs are different; they are cars particularly geared for performance. Even though there is a certain level of status that comes with buying an AMG Benz, there is one clear reason why someone buys an AMG over a 500 or 600: performance. Most people buy the 750i because it is a comfortable, luxurious sedan. Most people would be happy enough with a CLS500 for the same reason; not too many people need the CLS55.
That being said, I made the point about the H3 because it seems completely inappropriate to me. Who the hell needs a 6000-pound SUV in a stick?
That being said, I made the point about the H3 because it seems completely inappropriate to me. Who the hell needs a 6000-pound SUV in a stick?
So people who like big luxo cars shouldnt have the option to change gears themselves?
#33
Originally Posted by MattT516
I don't know why some of you guys would want a 5,000-pound car in a stick. Who in their right mind would drive a pig like a 750i, having to shift through the gears all the time? It just doesn't seem like something too enjoyable. That's like the fact that Hummer makes the H3 in a 5-speed... who the hell wants to shift through the gears with a car that does 0-to-60 in 10 seconds? Find me one person who actually bought that option, and I'll be shocked. And don't tell me because of gas mileage.
Anyway, most cars from the SRT division or the AMG division should have a manual transmission option. To have such high-performance vehicles with a following from those who want large bursts of speed at any given time and not have a stick option is ludicrous.
And for the record, I wish Audi would've opened their eyes last year and made the S4 in DSG, instead of the boring-ass A3 and the extremely homosexual TT.
Anyway, most cars from the SRT division or the AMG division should have a manual transmission option. To have such high-performance vehicles with a following from those who want large bursts of speed at any given time and not have a stick option is ludicrous.
And for the record, I wish Audi would've opened their eyes last year and made the S4 in DSG, instead of the boring-ass A3 and the extremely homosexual TT.
Well the curb weight of the 760i is 4762. The curb weight of the 645Ci is 4178. They offer the 645 in manual, the 760 doesnt have that much more weight to pull around even though you call it a pig. The 760i does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, almost half of your Hummer you were talking about. (Great comparison by the way!) So in my book, it wouldnt be a bad car to have a manual in.
#34
Originally Posted by 2003TLSNKC
So people who like big luxo cars shouldnt have the option to change gears themselves?
Forget the Hummer comparison if you all want. I was just making a point about cars that are sold in manual and probably won't be big-sellers because of the type of vehicle and the respective people that drive them.
Tough crowd, especially since most of you guys swear upon driving a manual anyday of the week. Personally, there are only certain cars out there that I would buy in stick, mostly sports cars.
#39
Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
I may be way off on this, but what about the ability of manual trannies to handle all that power? I thought the case with the RS6 having an auto was because the 6 speed couldn't handle all that power.
No flames on this, i really don't know what i'm talking about, just something i heard
No flames on this, i really don't know what i'm talking about, just something i heard
But that was then and this is now. There is nothing inherently weak about a manual transmission configuration. Quite the contrary. Manuals are inherently far stronger than automatics. However, if the current manual offerings are on the "weak" side, then that is an entirely different matter. It would be sad indeed if that was the reason why you are not seeing manuals in certain of these cars and I seriously doubt that is the reason.
Market sampling, demographics, demand.. these are the reasons. But wouldn't it be great if Dodge made the new Chargers available with manuals in their stronger Hemi versions?