Here is a surprise: Mazda6 booted off CR's recommended list
10-21-2004, 01:01 PM
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Here is a surprise: Mazda6 booted off CR's recommended list
because of poor reliability in first year or two.
So, that kind of validates those of us who looked seriously at the M6 and opted for the TSX instead.
So, that kind of validates those of us who looked seriously at the M6 and opted for the TSX instead.
10-21-2004, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
So they reccommended it at first but have since resinded the reccomendation?
Yup. CR does their survey every year and they revise their reliablity recommendations evey year based on their newest wave of data.
I might not have a TSX today if not for that practice. I started to look right after the BMW 325 got removed from the list.
10-21-2004, 01:31 PM
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my sister bought one of those. it was a total piece of trash. she had to take it to the dealer three times for a problem(i can't remember what it was) that was unsolvable. the dealer had to buy it back under the lemon law. But that took a long legal battle.
10-21-2004, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
I wonder what happened to the Mazda 6? It's usually a fairly dependable car.
I was hoping that car would do well. I really like it, especially the wagon.
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10-21-2004, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jcg878
Maybe the rust issue caught up with it??
I was hoping that car would do well. I really like it, especially the wagon.
I was hoping that car would do well. I really like it, especially the wagon.
that wasnt a rust issue, it was a adhesive used for door and trunk sealent that would discolor. That was fixed on 2004 models.
10-21-2004, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pandimus
that wasnt a rust issue, it was a adhesive used for door and trunk sealent that would discolor. That was fixed on 2004 models.
10-21-2004, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pandimus
that wasnt a rust issue, it was a adhesive used for door and trunk sealent that would discolor. That was fixed on 2004 models.
You sure about that?
10-21-2004, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
You sure about that?
edit: I should give the disclaimer that I actually have no idea what it was, but it looked like rust.
10-21-2004, 02:25 PM
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i have a co-worker who had to bring his 6 in to the dealer 2x because it would just die on him. turned out to be a bad throttle body design and the only way mazda realized this was when they flew an engineer from japan to the states. he only had 4k miles on the car.
10-21-2004, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
You sure about that?
i was interested in getting one before, i drove the tsx. I learned about the "rust" on www.mazda6club.com, www.msprotege.com
10-21-2004, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by blackjackman
M6 is made in Mexico, M3 in Jpn
Anyone else wonders who'd pick M6 over M3 ?
Anyone else wonders who'd pick M6 over M3 ?
I think the 3's are surely eating into 6 sales to some extent .
10-21-2004, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsxconvert
german cars fall apart ...same with vw/audi
BTW, I used to own a 93 626ES and its reliabilty already scare me away to buy ne car that made in North America. I will pick Mazda3 over Mazda6 in ne day
10-21-2004, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blackjackman
M6 is made in Mexico, M3 in Jpn
Anyone else wonders who'd pick M6 over M3 ?
Anyone else wonders who'd pick M6 over M3 ?
10-21-2004, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
IMO the only reason to get a 6 over a 3 is it you want a v6 (or maybe more room).
I think the 3's are surely eating into 6 sales to some extent .
I think the 3's are surely eating into 6 sales to some extent .
10-21-2004, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by darth62
because of poor reliability in first year or two.
So, that kind of validates those of us who looked seriously at the M6 and opted for the TSX instead.
So, that kind of validates those of us who looked seriously at the M6 and opted for the TSX instead.
I would love to read whatever it is you're reading on this.
Keith.
10-21-2004, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jcg878
I'm pretty sure the Mz6 is made in Ohio.
M6 sticker says : engine, final assembly : Mexico
tranny: Japan
Nothing about USA
M3 stickers say it's from Hiroshima
10-21-2004, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by roadie
Where did you find this info? I looked all over the (admitted hard to navigate) CR site and found nothing
I would love to read whatever it is you're reading on this.
Keith.
I would love to read whatever it is you're reading on this.
Keith.
Discussion board for subscribers. The auto editor mentioned it. This information has been posted elsewhere at there site, but will be in the Auto Preview issue to be on the stands next month. They will probably update their site within a week or two.
10-21-2004, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by darth62
Discussion board for subscribers. The auto editor mentioned it. This information has been posted elsewhere at there site, but will be in the Auto Preview issue to be on the stands next month. They will probably update their site within a week or two.
10-21-2004, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blackjackman
I browsed at the dealer the other day.
M6 sticker says : engine, final assembly : Mexico
tranny: Japan
Nothing about USA
M3 stickers say it's from Hiroshima
M6 sticker says : engine, final assembly : Mexico
tranny: Japan
Nothing about USA
M3 stickers say it's from Hiroshima
http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=37788
Sorry, it's assembled in Michigan. Those midwestern states are all the same to me
10-21-2004, 08:40 PM
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Yeah - I think this is Mazda's worst nightmare. I know my only fear is that the Mazda would not be unreliable and I had to go with my gut to stay with the better Honda/Acura product. I know we have all complained about this issue and that. But CR just recently praised (again) the top notch combo of pluses (especially reliability) of the TSX 
Here's to hoping that the TSX continues to do well and receive high marks for 2-3 more years. This can certainly impact resale value ... especially on the private retail market.
Here's to hoping that the TSX continues to do well and receive high marks for 2-3 more years. This can certainly impact resale value ... especially on the private retail market.
10-21-2004, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by provench
Yeah - I think this is Mazda's worst nightmare. I know my only fear is that the Mazda would not be unreliable and I had to go with my gut to stay with the better Honda/Acura product. I know we have all complained about this issue and that. But CR just recently praised (again) the top notch combo of pluses (especially reliability) of the TSX
Here's to hoping that the TSX continues to do well and receive high marks for 2-3 more years. This can certainly impact resale value ... especially on the private retail market.
Here's to hoping that the TSX continues to do well and receive high marks for 2-3 more years. This can certainly impact resale value ... especially on the private retail market.
10-21-2004, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jcg878
Ah, there you are. I was wondering about your opinion about this past weekend's football contest
OOOOHHH - THHHHHAAAAT game? Panthers are falling apart at the seams ... no mojo so far this year.
10-21-2004, 09:45 PM
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Wow, the Mazda bashers are just : :gheyfight:
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
10-21-2004, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy Legend
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
The 6 is definently a quicker car with the V6, no doubt, but there is alot more to a car than acceleration. And in every other respect, the TSX OWNZ the 6, sorry. In my opinion anyway.
But lets keep this on topic. The 6 was removed from CR's recc list, lets hear why.
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As this has been discussed numerous times ... I think the concern being noted here is that the M6 owners might have to worry a bit more about resale/reliability than they originally planned for. I guess in 3 years we'll see
Both are great cars, and the M6 is a good buy ... at least up front.
Both are great cars, and the M6 is a good buy ... at least up front.
10-21-2004, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy Legend
Wow, the Mazda bashers are just : :gheyfight:
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
this guy must be
or somethin.. or wants to be next sickLex, bashing tsx on tsx forum.
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I wonder if it was taken off the list because of the Ford V6 engine?
10-22-2004, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Guy Legend
Wow, the Mazda bashers are just : :gheyfight:
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
10-22-2004, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Guy Legend
Wow, the Mazda bashers are just : :gheyfight:
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?
I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.
Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.
I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
Personally I had concerns about realiability from Mazda. I think they've made a remarkable turn around, but I don't think they're quite there yet.
By the way like Domn mentioned, the topic is that Consumer Reports dropped the Mazda off of their Recommended list due to reliability issues. . . so I really don't get what you're saying
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Originally Posted by darth62
because of poor reliability in first year or two.
So, that kind of validates those of us who looked seriously at the M6 and opted for the TSX instead.
So, that kind of validates those of us who looked seriously at the M6 and opted for the TSX instead.
10-24-2004, 03:43 PM
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I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.
Not way more room, sorry; you make it sound like the 6 is a Lincoln Navigator and the TSX is a Civic.