because of poor reliability in first year or two.

So, that kind of validates those of us who looked seriously at the M6 and opted for the TSX instead.

 

So they reccommended it at first but have since resinded the reccomendation?

 

Yup. CR does their survey every year and they revise their reliablity recommendations evey year based on their newest wave of data.

I might not have a TSX today if not for that practice. I started to look right after the BMW 325 got removed from the list.

 

my sister bought one of those. it was a total piece of trash. she had to take it to the dealer three times for a problem(i can't remember what it was) that was unsolvable. the dealer had to buy it back under the lemon law. But that took a long legal battle.

 

german cars fall apart ...same with vw/audi

 

I wonder what happened to the Mazda 6? It's usually a fairly dependable car.

 

Maybe the rust issue caught up with it??

I was hoping that car would do well. I really like it, especially the wagon.

 

that wasnt a rust issue, it was a adhesive used for door and trunk sealent that would discolor. That was fixed on 2004 models.

 

Oh yeah, the rust.

 

You sure about that?

 

It wasn't rust. It was iron that would oxidize after exposure to water

edit: I should give the disclaimer that I actually have no idea what it was, but it looked like rust.

 

i have a co-worker who had to bring his 6 in to the dealer 2x because it would just die on him. turned out to be a bad throttle body design and the only way mazda realized this was when they flew an engineer from japan to the states. he only had 4k miles on the car.

 

i was interested in getting one before, i drove the tsx. I learned about the "rust" on www.mazda6club.com, www.msprotege.com

 

M6 is made in Mexico, M3 in Jpn
Anyone else wonders who'd pick M6 over M3 ?

 

IMO the only reason to get a 6 over a 3 is it you want a v6 (or maybe more room).

I think the 3's are surely eating into 6 sales to some extent .

 

Same go for BMW & MB! but VW/audi is the worst

BTW, I used to own a 93 626ES and its reliabilty already scare me away to buy ne car that made in North America. I will pick Mazda3 over Mazda6 in ne day

 

I'm pretty sure the Mz6 is made in Ohio.

 

I would get a 6. I wouldn't get a 3.

 

I wouldn't touch a Mazda if my own money were involved. They're okay cars to drive as long as someone else is footing the bill.

 

Where did you find this info? I looked all over the (admitted hard to navigate) CR site and found nothing

I would love to read whatever it is you're reading on this.

Keith.

 

I browsed at the dealer the other day.
M6 sticker says : engine, final assembly : Mexico
tranny: Japan
Nothing about USA

M3 stickers say it's from Hiroshima

 

here's a surprise-not: moving this thread to Car & Bike Talk.

 

Discussion board for subscribers. The auto editor mentioned it. This information has been posted elsewhere at there site, but will be in the Auto Preview issue to be on the stands next month. They will probably update their site within a week or two.

 

Yup, here it is:

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2

http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=37788

Sorry, it's assembled in Michigan. Those midwestern states are all the same to me

 

As are the elitist east cost snobs to us Ohio/Michigan/inconsequential flyover state residents

 

Yeah - I think this is Mazda's worst nightmare. I know my only fear is that the Mazda would not be unreliable and I had to go with my gut to stay with the better Honda/Acura product. I know we have all complained about this issue and that. But CR just recently praised (again) the top notch combo of pluses (especially reliability) of the TSX

Here's to hoping that the TSX continues to do well and receive high marks for 2-3 more years. This can certainly impact resale value ... especially on the private retail market.

 

Ah, there you are. I was wondering about your opinion about this past weekend's football contest

 

Yeah ... it was a big loss for UNC to Utah ... but we were really outgunned from the start...

OOOOHHH - THHHHHAAAAT game? Panthers are falling apart at the seams ... no mojo so far this year.

 

Wow, the Mazda bashers are just : :gheyfight:

Lots of B.S. in this thread. But what to expect from a biased group?

I was very serious in purchasing the TSX, but after driving it (auto), I realized this car doesn't compare at all to my brother's loaded 6s with sport package.

Why? The engine. The v6 is just far ahead of the 4 cyl. in the TSX. I didn't expect much of a difference in the TSX, but it was just slow. It felt like a friends Camry CE.

I liked the TSX's layout of the dash and center console, but the 6 is just as good when loaded fully loaded. Way more room, : more power, and more car for the money.

 

hehe... and those VWs come from Mexico...

Junkster, whose Scoobie's from Indiana

 

The 6 is definently a quicker car with the V6, no doubt, but there is alot more to a car than acceleration. And in every other respect, the TSX OWNZ the 6, sorry. In my opinion anyway.

But lets keep this on topic. The 6 was removed from CR's recc list, lets hear why.

 

As this has been discussed numerous times ... I think the concern being noted here is that the M6 owners might have to worry a bit more about resale/reliability than they originally planned for. I guess in 3 years we'll see

Both are great cars, and the M6 is a good buy ... at least up front.

 

this guy must be or somethin.. or wants to be next sickLex, bashing tsx on tsx forum.

 

I wonder if it was taken off the list because of the Ford V6 engine?

 

Wow, thanks for that valuable contribution. And you stole my avatar!

 

Umm, where's the Mazda bashing? If you actually look around here MANY of the people here considered or are considering a Mazda (3 or 6). But for whatever reason chose a TSX instead.

Personally I had concerns about realiability from Mazda. I think they've made a remarkable turn around, but I don't think they're quite there yet.

By the way like Domn mentioned, the topic is that Consumer Reports dropped the Mazda off of their Recommended list due to reliability issues. . . so I really don't get what you're saying .

 

 

Shhheeess, I almost bought one of those. I came away feeling like overall it's an OK car in most respects but not really good in any respect. I could see my mom driving one of these.........

 

Not way more room, sorry; you make it sound like the 6 is a Lincoln Navigator and the TSX is a Civic.