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Going from a Giulia to the new M4 would have been going from one of the prettiest faces in the car world to one of the ugliest.
You know it’s bad when the dealer says, “it grows on you…” I remember that same conversation when I bought my 2009 TL SH-AWD and immediately had the beak and the trunk lip color matched before I took delivery of it
Edit: In hindsight, I should have done the fogs too…
Last edited by hdcolumbus; May 21, 2021 at 12:02 AM.
I’m so fucking jealous. Our lease is coming up. I love the Alfa and will one day get a used Giulia but I am trying to go EV. I wanted buy out the lease but wife says she doesn’t love the Stelvio like I do.
I’m so fucking jealous. Our lease is coming up. I love the Alfa and will one day get a used Giulia but I am trying to go EV. I wanted buy out the lease but wife says she doesn’t love the Stelvio like I do.
we’ll see…
Ah, I just got caught up in your thread—too bad the Tonale isn’t on lots yet. I believe it will have a full EV version… Could be by September, I was at my dealer today and said nothing surprises him with Alfa anymore. He’s even skeptical that the Giorgio platform is going away.
He’s one of the larger dealers in NA and gets dibs on a lot of newer stuff. He had the last production 4C ever made on his lot for about 30s in January and is getting one of the 33 4C Stradales in this summer. He’s trying to talk me into getting a QV Giulia, staying with a 2.0 Stelvio and grabbing up the 4C Stradale. It’s kind of in a bidding war at the moment and he’ll likely get way over MSRP for it.
Spark plug changes every 30k miles at some super high price, that service runs like $900. Yearly service cost in the $400 range. All the major review outlets have had their cars in for service for a super long time for a wide variety of things. My coworker has one and his is at the dealership at least once every 6 weeks for some issue or another. Great car but can't get over that.
Spark plug changes every 30k miles at some super high price, that service runs like $900. Yearly service cost in the $400 range. All the major review outlets have had their cars in for service for a super long time for a wide variety of things. My coworker has one and his is at the dealership at least once every 6 weeks for some issue or another. Great car but can't get over that.
most of the owners on the pages have very solid experiences.
Spark plug changes every 30k miles at some super high price, that service runs like $900. Yearly service cost in the $400 range. All the major review outlets have had their cars in for service for a super long time for a wide variety of things. My coworker has one and his is at the dealership at least once every 6 weeks for some issue or another. Great car but can't get over that.
Seems like an outlier akin to the C&D test QV--it would suck to have it in the shop every 6 weeks for sure. As for the costs associated with maintenance, these are performance vehicles, and I wouldn't expect anything less (personally) from a sedan or SUV that track Nürburgring at 7:32s and 7:51s
I realize Alfa's are not for everyone--and while they have their quirks, driving either a 2.0 or QV is unparalleled to any vehicle I've driven in their respective classes. There is a misconception about reliability (your anecdote aside), based on what people read. Alfa has now been in the US market long enough to have actual data associated with reliability instead of an author's 'predicted' reliability rating.
I can tell you this much from my own anecdotal perspective, I had a 2019 TLX SH-AWD A-Spec for one year and it was in the shop for a combined total of two months for various issues during that time--compared to a combined total of about 8 hours (scheduled service / warranty battery replacements) for two Alfas over two years
Last edited by hdcolumbus; May 21, 2021 at 03:26 PM.
I'm not doubting your anecdote, just adding my own to the mix.
It's one thing to have a notoriously unreliable car brand make a car that's anecdotally reliable and another to have a notoriously reliable brand make something that anecdotally isn't. Brand perception plays a lot into buying decisions.
I'm not doubting your anecdote, just adding my own to the mix.
It's one thing to have a notoriously unreliable car brand make a car that's anecdotally reliable and another to have a notoriously reliable brand make something that anecdotally isn't. Brand perception plays a lot into buying decisions.
I 100% agree — brand perception is everything, and honestly I don’t mind the masses not buying loads of Alfas. Even two years later I get people walking up and asking about both the Giulia and Stelvio—they’re so curious. I see a few more on the road here and there; but they are still relatively rare and there is something to be said about that feeling of exclusivity (another reason I was looking at a Lotus too, you don’t see them often) and community. It really reminds me of how Acura used to be, honestly—it’s what pulled me in.
Updates—both still going strong, in fact, trading in the Stelvio for a 22 Stelvio Veloce (ordered), keeping the 19 Giulia Ti Sport (it’s appreciating) and just ordered a 22 Giulia Quadrifoglio in Ocra GT Junior spec. I was torn between that and the Verde Montreal; but I kept going back the Ocra—and from what I understand, the pictures simply do not provide a true account of the color. Excited to get both in—end of September and will report back. Same color spec in the Stelvio, they streamlined a lot of the options, removed like 17 colors and are going the mass production route (they claim for reliability; but, I suspect it’s because of cost savings).
I read today alfa wont have a full ev till 2027...ugh
Very nice!
And yep, Alfa scheduled to be fully EV in 2027. I’ll be holding onto my new Stelvio and my current Q4 for some time (and definitely the QV). I’m also in the market for a 4C launch edition, which I was close to pulling the trigger on one last month; but in the process of building a house and trying to stay as liquid as possible.
New Stelvio Veloce should be here within the week… The QV will be here next month (I’m still keeping my Q4, trading in the current Stelvio Ti for the Veloce). I’m not sure if I mentioned the color I went with on the QV; but I chose the Ocra GT Jr. GTAm livery color. The only one in Ohio that has a VIN and on a boat right now.
It finally came in today, just in time for winter! The new Veloce Stelvio arrived as well—I’m keeping the Q4 Giulia Ti Sport, trading in the current Stelvio (same specs, just Veloce trim and the new 21” wheels).
I’ll take delivery of the QV after swapping rubber, PPF and tint. The pictures absolutely do no do it justice—it’s a stunning color—and the anodized black calipers with red script were a nice surprise, it showed it shipping with red; but I was going to have to grow to love that combo as the red would detract from the Ocra GT.
Still on blocks here, dropped another 2.5” or so after removed, dealer has it in his showroom now. Pretty cool that the window sticker has “Custom Built for…my name” on both the QV and Stelvio.
Went ahead and took it home, along with the new Stelvio. Waited too long. I’ll PPF and tint over the winter break. Ended up just buying the QV and leasing the new Stelvio.
Agreed—I fully expected to have it parked for the next three months, but it’s been above freezing since I took delivery. I have to admit, I was a little nervous with RWD and stock P1 Corsas HP track tires; but honestly, with no moisture, above freezing and once they’re warm (and I don’t drive like an idiot), I really like them a lot. They’re going to be great in the summer. And thank you! I’ll shoot some video, try to capture more of the color—also, record a cold start. That Ferrari F154 is music to my ears.
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Gorgeous. And 60 degrees?!?
Pffft. I'm -40 degrees just the other day. Fahrenheit.
I came REALLY close to trading in the Q4 Ti Sport for this beauty last week. My dealer called me the night it came in—I told him I’d be up the next morning to take a look and seriously consider it if no one claimed it. One of his sales guys got someone from NC to trade in an 18 QV Stelvio with $20K in equity on it—going to drive up this week to trade. Dealer said he’d blow up the deal for me, but I couldn’t do that to his sales guy (he said he didn’t care, but c’mon) or the dude in NC. Although, in hindsight, I should have done it. Last year for the Ocra GT and Montreal Verde—and there are like 20 total in these QV colors in the US… Like the Ocra GT, the Montreal Verde is stunning in person. All of the different hues based on lighting—damn.
on that sticker. 
It should be called PolySTEAL!