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oh damn didn't know about the SS being the same car.
too bad we only get 415 measly hp.
you never know with GM, I mean look at the V-series Caddy's and the Camaro special editions... would be bad ass if they brought the 576hp version in the future.
too bad we only get 415 measly hp.
you never know with GM, I mean look at the V-series Caddy's and the Camaro special editions... would be bad ass if they brought the 576hp version in the future.
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Looks like a modern day version of a 356, but strange name - "Watersnake": http://www.netcarshow.com/pgo/2013-c...s_water_snake/
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I don't understand the styling of a chrome bar that stretches across the rear. I do not like that at all. So many new models have that, too. It doesn't look too bad on the silver 9-5 but any other color it stands out way too much.
Accord
Altima
Maxima
Corolla
Civic
Tesla Model S
Cruze
Sonata
200
Impala
Sentra
I think chrome used like this is very ugly, detracts from the look, and takes away from the car's styling lines.
I am very glad my ST doesn't have any chrome.
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2010 Ford GT listed for $80k OBO. Funny thing is that it is listed as a Mustang...?
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
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2008 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 with Super Snake Limited Edition package (725+ HP) for $90k. 300 miles on the odo.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1
2010 Ford GT listed for $80k OBO. Funny thing is that it is listed as a Mustang...?
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=1746387
For asking that kind of money, odd how there is no description at all.
This one is pretty cool though:
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=1437234
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This 2005 Ford GT is no ordinary Ford GT. This car is an important part of the history of the Ford GT. Originally built as one of five pre-production prototypes, PB1-3 was one of two sold to Steve Saleen at Saleen specialty vehicles for vehicle development. Number three in the production run, this car was driven and tested by Saleen's cheif performance engineers to create the final version of the production car. This car was put through reliability and endurance testing, and once retired from duty, it was purchased by Steve Saleen. In addition to being the only 2005 finished in Gulf Blue, this car has the intosh premium audio option. There is extensive documentation, including the assembly agreement signed by Steve Saleen and John Coletti, SVT director at Ford Motor CO. Deviations from the standard include prototype exhaust with racing headers, a master electronic kill switch, a pre-production transmission, early radiator fan switches and more. This car is guaranteed to be infinitely collectible. The Ford GT market has been steadily appreciating, trading at prices well above original MSRP. The unique history, one of a kind color, and exclusive pedigree makes PB1-3 an excellent addition to any collection.
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I would say though, if there is any car worth buying as an investment right now, it would probably be a Ford GT. I think the majority of them have all added an additional $75K at the least to their original retail price & they're not even a decade old yet.
I would also give an honorary mention to the CGT. They've dipped a little bit in recent years, but they still seem to be worth on average around $400,000; only lost about $40,000 of its value.
I would also give an honorary mention to the CGT. They've dipped a little bit in recent years, but they still seem to be worth on average around $400,000; only lost about $40,000 of its value.
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So C&D tested the GTI over in europe and compared it to an ST over there too. I believe the ST is for the most part the same? But the euro version has 10 extra hp and a fancier adjustable suspension. Anyway they didnt test the performance model so the GTI was putting out 217hp and 256lb-ft if i remember correctly.
They put the GTI 1st over the ST.
The most surprising thing... 0-60 for the ST was 5.7. GTI was 5.6
I know theres a lot of factors, but the GTI is down 20-30hp? ST also has a better hp/weight ratio, both were manual. It just surprised me.
They put the GTI 1st over the ST.
The most surprising thing... 0-60 for the ST was 5.7. GTI was 5.6
I know theres a lot of factors, but the GTI is down 20-30hp? ST also has a better hp/weight ratio, both were manual. It just surprised me.
F40, F50, and Enzo with less than 300 miles each for a package price of $6.1 million 
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=1806178
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=1806178
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F40, F50, and Enzo with less than 300 miles each for a package price of $6.1 million
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=1806178
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=1806178
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I know this is going back a bit in the thread, but RPhil, I think the trunk chrome bars add a bit of drama to the rear end. Bland styling seems to be a killer in today's market. 
just saw this on el FB... holy smokes!!!!!!!
"17:1CR...12,000RPM....~2000hp capability."
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...37934613_o.jpg
"17:1CR...12,000RPM....~2000hp capability."
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...37934613_o.jpg
E85 or race gas?
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Goldrush Rally 5 full car list - damn my camera is gonna get a workout... and at night they are partying at the club I work at... mad party times for sure!
- Bentley Arnage Limousine
- McLaren SLR 722 Edition
- Bugatti Veyron
- Ferrari 599 Fiorano HGTE
- Chevrolet Corvette Z06
- Mercedes SL 63 AMG
- Audi R8 V10
- Alpha Nissan GTR
- Ferrari 430 Scuderia
- Ford Raptor
- Mercedes SL 63 AMG
- Lotus Evora S
- Ferrari 458 Italia
- McLaren MP4-12C
- Ford Velociraptor
- Porsche Panamera Turbo
- Audi R8 Spyder
- McLaren MP4-12C
- Mercedes CLS 63 AMG
- Chevrolet Suburban
- Porsche Panamera Turbo
- Mercedes SLS 63 AMG
- Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe
- Vorsteiner Rolls Royce Ghost
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
- Mercedes SLS 63 AMG
- Audi RS5
- Aston Martin Vantage V12
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Mercedes E 55 AMG
- Rolls Royce Phantom
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Ferrari 458 Italia
- Bugatti Veyron Supersport
- Maserati MC Corsa
- Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe
- Range Rover Strut Edition
- Chrysler 300 C
- Lamborghini Gallardo Performante
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Lotus Elise
- Mclaren MP4-12C
- Tesla Model S
- Porsche Panamera S
- Porsche Panamera 4S
- Sportchassis P4XL
- Nissan GTR
- Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560
- Mercedes S 550
- Chevrolet Camaro
- Ferrari FF
- Mclaren MP4-12C
- Ferrari F 355
- Aston Martin Rapide
- Bentley Continental GT
- Ferrari 599
- RENNtech Mercedes CLS 63 AMG
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640
- Audi R8
- Audi R8 V10
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640
- Rolls Royce Ghost
- Mercedes C Class
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Aston Martin Rapide
- BMW F10 M5
here is a photo from the CALI leg...
- McLaren SLR 722 Edition
- Bugatti Veyron
- Ferrari 599 Fiorano HGTE
- Chevrolet Corvette Z06
- Mercedes SL 63 AMG
- Audi R8 V10
- Alpha Nissan GTR
- Ferrari 430 Scuderia
- Ford Raptor
- Mercedes SL 63 AMG
- Lotus Evora S
- Ferrari 458 Italia
- McLaren MP4-12C
- Ford Velociraptor
- Porsche Panamera Turbo
- Audi R8 Spyder
- McLaren MP4-12C
- Mercedes CLS 63 AMG
- Chevrolet Suburban
- Porsche Panamera Turbo
- Mercedes SLS 63 AMG
- Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe
- Vorsteiner Rolls Royce Ghost
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
- Mercedes SLS 63 AMG
- Audi RS5
- Aston Martin Vantage V12
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Mercedes E 55 AMG
- Rolls Royce Phantom
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Ferrari 458 Italia
- Bugatti Veyron Supersport
- Maserati MC Corsa
- Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe
- Range Rover Strut Edition
- Chrysler 300 C
- Lamborghini Gallardo Performante
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Lotus Elise
- Mclaren MP4-12C
- Tesla Model S
- Porsche Panamera S
- Porsche Panamera 4S
- Sportchassis P4XL
- Nissan GTR
- Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560
- Mercedes S 550
- Chevrolet Camaro
- Ferrari FF
- Mclaren MP4-12C
- Ferrari F 355
- Aston Martin Rapide
- Bentley Continental GT
- Ferrari 599
- RENNtech Mercedes CLS 63 AMG
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640
- Audi R8
- Audi R8 V10
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640
- Rolls Royce Ghost
- Mercedes C Class
- Lamborghini Aventador
- Aston Martin Rapide
- BMW F10 M5
here is a photo from the CALI leg...
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Got both my front wheel bearings replaced, new front brake pads and fixed the warped rotos this passed weekend 
Cars so much smoother now!
edit: I've pretty much had warped rotors for the past 4 years? Although it wasnt much back then.
Cars so much smoother now!
edit: I've pretty much had warped rotors for the past 4 years? Although it wasnt much back then.
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the 12C-spider is fricking gorgeous. I kind of would not compare its look directly to the F1 though - kind of out of respect for both cars and also because I consider that car from a different era and a comparison inapplicable and/or irrelevant. 
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heh, I knew I'd catch flak for that comment. The F1 is still a legend in my eyes, and still in my top 3. The 12C is neither... just quite partial to the roadster look.
speaking of which, what are those things called behind the headrests? They're common on roadsters, first thought was to call them buttresses but those are different.
speaking of which, what are those things called behind the headrests? They're common on roadsters, first thought was to call them buttresses but those are different.
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Seriously, how the fuck can anyone make sense of all those lights and buttons and numbers on that steering wheel? AND drive 150mph?
I'd plow into the first wall the moment a light changed color. Assuming I could actually get the car to start moving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JVY-sHo#t=324s
I'd plow into the first wall the moment a light changed color. Assuming I could actually get the car to start moving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JVY-sHo#t=324s
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Seriously, how the fuck can anyone make sense of all those lights and buttons and numbers on that steering wheel? AND drive 150mph?
I'd plow into the first wall the moment a light changed color. Assuming I could actually get the car to start moving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JVY-sHo#t=324s
I'd plow into the first wall the moment a light changed color. Assuming I could actually get the car to start moving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JVY-sHo#t=324s
at "plow into the first wall..." and Hammond trying to drive an F1 car.