General Car Talk Discussion Thread
05-01-2020, 06:17 AM
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05-01-2020, 06:52 AM
I've done it in my grandmother's cleo and my sisters Honda jazz (Fit, manual) and let me tell you that that's
gotta be just as fun as the ring.
Now that's commitment, that's a long as fuck 7 hour drive each way!
Nice dick though. It was nice.
gotta be just as fun as the ring.
Nice dick though. It was nice.
05-01-2020, 07:05 AM
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as much pre-prep as possible would be best.
05-01-2020, 07:11 AM
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05-01-2020, 07:19 AM
Chevy is always the answer.
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05-01-2020, 07:47 AM
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The Chevrolet dealer I worked for in college has a few cars that sadly were relegated to shop displays.
96 Impala SS with about 25k miles on it
84 Camaro Indy Pace Car Edition (didn't run & none of the techs wanted to deal with the x-fire injection)
70 Caprice convertible with <5k miles in Corvette red (special order) & still had the original window sticker
late 30-40s Buick coupe
Owner also had an untitled (still on the dealer's floorplan I guess) 2004 Anniversary Edition Corvette convertible (automatic
). IIRC, it had around 30k miles.
05-01-2020, 07:54 AM
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A few of my friends have done it and they have said it is a MUST DO for any fan of cars. I would say probably most of us are Super Fans. So yeah.
Friend recommended to rent a car and start off with something slow and hopefully be able to move to something like a Cayman by end of experience.
Also he said Ring Taxi trip in something like the M5 or if you are more daring one of the sports cars (I think they have GT3RS but its $$$) is also a must - one lap is enough, your head will be spinning.
I gotta get there at some point. Working on it, maybe next year?
Friend recommended to rent a car and start off with something slow and hopefully be able to move to something like a Cayman by end of experience.
Also he said Ring Taxi trip in something like the M5 or if you are more daring one of the sports cars (I think they have GT3RS but its $$$) is also a must - one lap is enough, your head will be spinning.
I gotta get there at some point. Working on it, maybe next year?
05-01-2020, 07:54 AM
Whats up with RDX owners?
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05-01-2020, 08:34 AM
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05-01-2020, 09:30 AM
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I don't think the ring is considered a road lol.
The Rubicon trail is, however, a legitimate county road.
The Rubicon trail is, however, a legitimate county road.
05-01-2020, 09:38 AM
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I looked it up - it's considered a public toll road.https://www.tflcar.com/2017/05/top-5...urgring-top-5/
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05-01-2020, 09:40 AM
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My understanding was, it is a "road", given the way it sprawls around the landscape and wasn't built to be a racetrack... just checked:
The Nordschleife is a public toll road
During Touristenfahrten, or tourist sessions, the Nürburgring acts effectively as a public German toll road, which means, amazingly, that almost any vehicle is allowed to drive the track. ... Furthermore, new vehicles enter the track the whole time.
The Nordschleife is a public toll road
During Touristenfahrten, or tourist sessions, the Nürburgring acts effectively as a public German toll road, which means, amazingly, that almost any vehicle is allowed to drive the track. ... Furthermore, new vehicles enter the track the whole time.
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05-01-2020, 09:40 AM
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05-01-2020, 09:59 AM
05-01-2020, 10:23 AM
also
What is scary though is driving with other people on the road and the unforgiving runoff for the entire length. If you go off, you're eating guardrail.
A few of my friends have done it and they have said it is a MUST DO for any fan of cars. I would say probably most of us are Super Fans. So yeah.
Friend recommended to rent a car and start off with something slow and hopefully be able to move to something like a Cayman by end of experience.
Also he said Ring Taxi trip in something like the M5 or if you are more daring one of the sports cars (I think they have GT3RS but its $$$) is also a must - one lap is enough, your head will be spinning.
I gotta get there at some point. Working on it, maybe next year?
Friend recommended to rent a car and start off with something slow and hopefully be able to move to something like a Cayman by end of experience.
Also he said Ring Taxi trip in something like the M5 or if you are more daring one of the sports cars (I think they have GT3RS but its $$$) is also a must - one lap is enough, your head will be spinning.
I gotta get there at some point. Working on it, maybe next year?
Can't imagine how it would be with a pro driver on something longer like the Ring, shit.
Friend's plan of multiple cars sounds smart, but also very pricey
Cayman's gotta run at least a couple grand or more. But the thought of driving that on the Ring.... mm
05-01-2020, 10:55 AM
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Can confirm the bolded. I don't get motion sickness easily unless I'm staring at my phone for a while on a car ride - but doing a few laps while somebody else drives will usually give me vertigo.
Can't imagine how it would be with a pro driver on something longer like the Ring, shit.
Friend's plan of multiple cars sounds smart, but also very pricey Cayman's gotta run at least a couple grand or more. But the thought of driving that on the Ring.... mm
Can't imagine how it would be with a pro driver on something longer like the Ring, shit.
Friend's plan of multiple cars sounds smart, but also very pricey
Cayman's gotta run at least a couple grand or more. But the thought of driving that on the Ring.... mm
05-01-2020, 11:22 AM
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I feel like I am somewhat comfortable with the layout given the years of GT and Forza, but definitely would need a refresher for half an hour or so to burn it into memory just before going.
What is scary though is driving with other people on the road and the unforgiving runoff for the entire length. If you go off, you're eating guardrail.
What is scary though is driving with other people on the road and the unforgiving runoff for the entire length. If you go off, you're eating guardrail.
05-01-2020, 12:00 PM
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05-01-2020, 12:03 PM
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05-01-2020, 01:17 PM
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Looks like a Cayman S rental is like 1200 euro including gas and track tickets for 4 laps...that's a lot of money lol.
Civic Type R, Focus RS, and Golf R are around 750 euro
Fiesta ST, GTI, etc are all around 550 euro.
Edit: This DOES NOT include insurance.
Civic Type R, Focus RS, and Golf R are around 750 euro
Fiesta ST, GTI, etc are all around 550 euro.
Edit: This DOES NOT include insurance.
05-01-2020, 01:36 PM
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I think at those prices I'll pay to ride with some pro and let him scare the sh*t out of me.
05-01-2020, 02:22 PM
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^ In those cases, I'd almost prefer an ST or GTI that I'd be able to maybe push a bit & enjoy, over the Cayman which would be tip-toed around.
05-01-2020, 02:46 PM
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^ truth
05-02-2020, 09:23 AM
Anyone watch these recent VinWiki videos about, "What would you buy for such and such"? Some of these guys are plain silly. "What can you get for $25k? I'd buy an older Aston Mar..." Stop. Just, no. 
I think one said they'd buy an E46 M3 for under $10K. Yeeaahhh, because a 100K+ mile, automatic convertible example is really the best sports car for the money.
I think one said they'd buy an E46 M3 for under $10K. Yeeaahhh, because a 100K+ mile, automatic convertible example is really the best sports car for the money.
05-02-2020, 11:48 AM
Yeah, those cars tend to be inexpensive for a reason.
In a similar vein, I saw a video of these dudes who each bought an exotic for less than the price of a C8 Corvette.
They all require thousands in service despite appearing to be in good condition
In a similar vein, I saw a video of these dudes who each bought an exotic for less than the price of a C8 Corvette.
They all require thousands in service despite appearing to be in good condition
05-12-2020, 09:44 PM
Anyone (still) watch Best Motoring/Hot Version videos?
I watched Initial D growing up and have always had twisty backroads where I live. BM videos really shaped my car enthusiasm. I love their racer's perspective of cars.
Kind of followed Larry Chen's work through IG for a while, when I finally discovered he had a YouTube channel, I went down the rabbit hole. Hoonigan Autofocus is a great channel for in-depth looks at some pretty famous project cars and their owners/builders.
I watched Initial D growing up and have always had twisty backroads where I live. BM videos really shaped my car enthusiasm. I love their racer's perspective of cars.
Kind of followed Larry Chen's work through IG for a while, when I finally discovered he had a YouTube channel, I went down the rabbit hole. Hoonigan Autofocus is a great channel for in-depth looks at some pretty famous project cars and their owners/builders.
05-13-2020, 06:56 AM
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I follow Larry Chen also. Just saw a 240z he shot that JDM Legends built. Sex!
05-15-2020, 07:17 AM
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Cannonball record has been broken again, 7 times actually, in the last 2 months.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...y-2020-sub-26/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...y-2020-sub-26/
The New York-to-Los Angeles Cannonball driving record has been broken yet again, according to former coast-to-coast record holder and insider Ed Bolian.
Bolian, claiming to have been in contact with the new record-holders, says the new record is less than 26 hours, but did not disclose an exact time in the above video published Thursday. That means the drivers would've had to average at least 108 mph over 2801 miles. Bolian says that through some states, the record-breaking team averaged over 120 mph. The Cannonball insider didn't say which car was used to set the run, nor did he reveal who the driver or drivers were.
The news comes just five weeks after a team took advantage of empty roads stemming from coronavirus pandemic lockdown orders to set a record time of 26 hours 38 minutes. Those drivers were behind the wheel of an Audi A8 equipped with aftermarket fuel tanks strapped to the interior.
The drivers behind this new record run weren't the only ones who've taken advantage of the dip in road traffic, according to Bolian. A handful of other niche records, including the solo-driver coast-to-coast record, diesel-powered coast-to-cost record, and the coast-to-coast-to-coast record have also fallen in the past few weeks. Another team even managed to set a 26 minute 43 minute time from New York to Los Angeles, coming within five minutes of the aforementioned Audi A8 record time.
The Cannonball record is a non-stop coast-to-coast drive that starts at the Red Ball Garage in Manhattan, New York, and ends at the Portofino Inn in Redondo Beach, California. The goal is to arrive in Los Angeles as quickly as possible by safely maintaining triple-digit speeds across America's highways. With the inherent danger involved, many, including but not limited to law enforcement officers, aren't fans of the competition. These feelings are magnified now, with America and the rest of the world in the middle of a devastating pandemic.
The new record-setting team is preparing to release a documentary to go along with their official announcement, according to Bolian. The former record-holder expects to have them on his YouTube channel, VinWiki, to discuss the run and reveal more details, though there's no word on when that'll happen.
Bolian, claiming to have been in contact with the new record-holders, says the new record is less than 26 hours, but did not disclose an exact time in the above video published Thursday. That means the drivers would've had to average at least 108 mph over 2801 miles. Bolian says that through some states, the record-breaking team averaged over 120 mph. The Cannonball insider didn't say which car was used to set the run, nor did he reveal who the driver or drivers were.
The news comes just five weeks after a team took advantage of empty roads stemming from coronavirus pandemic lockdown orders to set a record time of 26 hours 38 minutes. Those drivers were behind the wheel of an Audi A8 equipped with aftermarket fuel tanks strapped to the interior.
The drivers behind this new record run weren't the only ones who've taken advantage of the dip in road traffic, according to Bolian. A handful of other niche records, including the solo-driver coast-to-coast record, diesel-powered coast-to-cost record, and the coast-to-coast-to-coast record have also fallen in the past few weeks. Another team even managed to set a 26 minute 43 minute time from New York to Los Angeles, coming within five minutes of the aforementioned Audi A8 record time.
The Cannonball record is a non-stop coast-to-coast drive that starts at the Red Ball Garage in Manhattan, New York, and ends at the Portofino Inn in Redondo Beach, California. The goal is to arrive in Los Angeles as quickly as possible by safely maintaining triple-digit speeds across America's highways. With the inherent danger involved, many, including but not limited to law enforcement officers, aren't fans of the competition. These feelings are magnified now, with America and the rest of the world in the middle of a devastating pandemic.
The new record-setting team is preparing to release a documentary to go along with their official announcement, according to Bolian. The former record-holder expects to have them on his YouTube channel, VinWiki, to discuss the run and reveal more details, though there's no word on when that'll happen.
05-18-2020, 08:32 PM
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Who bought the V8 Audi S5 6MT recently? Was curious how its going.
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05-19-2020, 07:07 AM
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Thank you!
05-19-2020, 01:02 PM
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05-19-2020, 01:04 PM
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05-19-2020, 08:27 PM
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So for less money, I would tell any wannabe "fast driver" to go to Europe and rent a vehicle and flog it on the Autobahn. You'll learn a few things:
1. If you don't use signals (like your supposed to), and hang in the left lane when you're not supposed to, you will receive a ticket (and be fined).
2. Going around a track is one thing, but going flat out (where there's no limit) is a good test of skill. Speed, distance judgement, and proper driving etiquette (see #1) will go a long way.
3. Doing 125 and feeling good until an S8 comes up and flies by at 155 is sobering, until the Ferrari or Porsche tailing them passes them.
4. You'll also get to stop at petrol stations and pay $75-100 for a fill up. Oh, but do go inside the Gastatte and grab a cup of kaffem mit kuchen. That will only be about 5 Euro.
And do the above in a GTI, or a simple 3 Series/A4/Merc C class (they can all be had with a 6 speed manual)..... You will be smiling at the end of your trip. Or rent a Lambo for one day (same cost as a week plus with the others including a hotel). And the super cars all have severe mileage limits (normally 75km/day)
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1. If you don't use signals (like your supposed to), and hang in the left lane when you're not supposed to, you will receive a ticket (and be fined).
2. Going around a track is one thing, but going flat out (where there's no limit) is a good test of skill. Speed, distance judgement, and proper driving etiquette (see #1) will go a long way.
3. Doing 125 and feeling good until an S8 comes up and flies by at 155 is sobering, until the Ferrari or Porsche tailing them passes them.
4. You'll also get to stop at petrol stations and pay $75-100 for a fill up. Oh, but do go inside the Gastatte and grab a cup of kaffem mit kuchen. That will only be about 5 Euro.
And do the above in a GTI, or a simple 3 Series/A4/Merc C class (they can all be had with a 6 speed manual)..... You will be smiling at the end of your trip. Or rent a Lambo for one day (same cost as a week plus with the others including a hotel). And the super cars all have severe mileage limits (normally 75km/day)
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05-21-2020, 04:03 PM
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/33607/...s-punches-fire
This place was probably one of the tracks I was hoping to take my car to this year. Not really confidence-inspiring to see this kind of silliness all happen in one day.
This place was probably one of the tracks I was hoping to take my car to this year. Not really confidence-inspiring to see this kind of silliness all happen in one day.
05-21-2020, 08:03 PM
So for less money, I would tell any wannabe "fast driver" to go to Europe and rent a vehicle and flog it on the Autobahn. You'll learn a few things:
1. If you don't use signals (like your supposed to), and hang in the left lane when you're not supposed to, you will receive a ticket (and be fined).
2. Going around a track is one thing, but going flat out (where there's no limit) is a good test of skill. Speed, distance judgement, and proper driving etiquette (see #1) will go a long way.
3. Doing 125 and feeling good until an S8 comes up and flies by at 155 is sobering, until the Ferrari or Porsche tailing them passes them.
4. You'll also get to stop at petrol stations and pay $75-100 for a fill up. Oh, but do go inside the Gastatte and grab a cup of kaffem mit kuchen. That will only be about 5 Euro.
And do the above in a GTI, or a simple 3 Series/A4/Merc C class (they can all be had with a 6 speed manual)..... You will be smiling at the end of your trip. Or rent a Lambo for one day (same cost as a week plus with the others including a hotel). And the super cars all have severe mileage limits (normally 75km/day)
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1. If you don't use signals (like your supposed to), and hang in the left lane when you're not supposed to, you will receive a ticket (and be fined).
2. Going around a track is one thing, but going flat out (where there's no limit) is a good test of skill. Speed, distance judgement, and proper driving etiquette (see #1) will go a long way.
3. Doing 125 and feeling good until an S8 comes up and flies by at 155 is sobering, until the Ferrari or Porsche tailing them passes them.
4. You'll also get to stop at petrol stations and pay $75-100 for a fill up. Oh, but do go inside the Gastatte and grab a cup of kaffem mit kuchen. That will only be about 5 Euro.
And do the above in a GTI, or a simple 3 Series/A4/Merc C class (they can all be had with a 6 speed manual)..... You will be smiling at the end of your trip. Or rent a Lambo for one day (same cost as a week plus with the others including a hotel). And the super cars all have severe mileage limits (normally 75km/day)
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/33607/...s-punches-fire
This place was probably one of the tracks I was hoping to take my car to this year. Not really confidence-inspiring to see this kind of silliness all happen in one day.
This place was probably one of the tracks I was hoping to take my car to this year. Not really confidence-inspiring to see this kind of silliness all happen in one day.
Not sure how it works at that track, but the ones in my area have some open track days, then other days have time slots for the organizers or whoever books it.
You get don't to go on the track until you undergo a safety class to learn etiquette. Everything is structured and you are put in a group corresponding to your level of experience. They take things very seriously and drill into your head what to do in case X happens.
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05-21-2020, 08:32 PM
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I was pleasantly surprised that manual rentals were available in Europe. Really enjoyed putting around in a little A3, better than the overkill Opel Insignia wagon. Gas was super expensive! The TDI helped, but the downside was the thing was gasping for air at 125+, only managed to hit 130 going downhill. Next time we'll get something more powerful.
In Germany, the big cars get little love, so sometimes if you ask for a 3 series they may give you a 5 series or larger. It helps to be humble, tell them you much rather have a manual (they like to hear that) and you can get lucky. Now, if it's a nice young lady, complement her English first, then say "Meine Deutsch ist schlect" (my German is bad). She will giggle, you get a nice car, and "Alles gut" (everything is good).
Now be the ugly American (explanation on another day), and you'll get a VW Up or a shitty Skoda or Seat (See-Aht) that no one rents, except gypsies.
05-21-2020, 08:50 PM
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Sterling 2.7 Acura Engine Question
Hi I am new to this forum. I have a 1989 Sterling 827 SLI I bought new in 1990. I drove it early on then it got parked for basically 20+ years when I renewed my interest 3 years ago and returned it to road. The good news it didn't accrue any mileage or any corrosion at all. A car sitting has brought other issues ie: tire replacement, brake caliper replacement, valve cover gaskets, block plate gaskets, alternator, re-tightened the oil pan bolts carefully, changed all fluids, fuel filter, relays and had the fuel injectors ultrasonically cleaned. I have done most all the repairs myself with exception of sending out injectors.
Those not acquainted with the Sterling its British made powered by Acura 2.7L V6. The early models (prior to 1988) were powered by 2.5L Acura. Each "fix" I've completed has made the car run incrementally better, The one issue I am experiencing with the engine I cannot seem to resolve...after the engine runs, and is restarted later, the engine has an annoying miss. This miss will continue until I press the accelerator and bring the engine up to 2220 - 2500 RPM and then it magically disappears and the engine pulls like 10 men. Sometimes it comes back, but usually it clears. After the restart its never running the same as from a cold morning restart. I have a hunch its affiliated with the throttle body in some, but reading my Sterling repair manuals I've seen distributor dust, spark plugs, fuel filter in tank, and temperature sensor as possible causes. Dale the Sterling Fixer gave me 5 things to look at too. It doesn't burn oil, no oil in coolant, and no coolant loss. Spark plugs are tight.
Has anyone experienced anything like this with an Acura...and maybe an educated place for me to look instead of just changing a bunch of parts? Thank you, Cliff
Those not acquainted with the Sterling its British made powered by Acura 2.7L V6. The early models (prior to 1988) were powered by 2.5L Acura. Each "fix" I've completed has made the car run incrementally better, The one issue I am experiencing with the engine I cannot seem to resolve...after the engine runs, and is restarted later, the engine has an annoying miss. This miss will continue until I press the accelerator and bring the engine up to 2220 - 2500 RPM and then it magically disappears and the engine pulls like 10 men. Sometimes it comes back, but usually it clears. After the restart its never running the same as from a cold morning restart. I have a hunch its affiliated with the throttle body in some, but reading my Sterling repair manuals I've seen distributor dust, spark plugs, fuel filter in tank, and temperature sensor as possible causes. Dale the Sterling Fixer gave me 5 things to look at too. It doesn't burn oil, no oil in coolant, and no coolant loss. Spark plugs are tight.
Has anyone experienced anything like this with an Acura...and maybe an educated place for me to look instead of just changing a bunch of parts? Thank you, Cliff
05-22-2020, 09:42 AM
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/33607/...s-punches-fire
This place was probably one of the tracks I was hoping to take my car to this year. Not really confidence-inspiring to see this kind of silliness all happen in one day.
This place was probably one of the tracks I was hoping to take my car to this year. Not really confidence-inspiring to see this kind of silliness all happen in one day.
I think this is the same track that had a shit-show of an event last year or the year before.Hi I am new to this forum. I have a 1989 Sterling 827 SLI I bought new in 1990. I drove it early on then it got parked for basically 20+ years when I renewed my interest 3 years ago and returned it to road. The good news it didn't accrue any mileage or any corrosion at all. A car sitting has brought other issues ie: tire replacement, brake caliper replacement, valve cover gaskets, block plate gaskets, alternator, re-tightened the oil pan bolts carefully, changed all fluids, fuel filter, relays and had the fuel injectors ultrasonically cleaned. I have done most all the repairs myself with exception of sending out injectors.
Those not acquainted with the Sterling its British made powered by Acura 2.7L V6. The early models (prior to 1988) were powered by 2.5L Acura. Each "fix" I've completed has made the car run incrementally better, The one issue I am experiencing with the engine I cannot seem to resolve...after the engine runs, and is restarted later, the engine has an annoying miss. This miss will continue until I press the accelerator and bring the engine up to 2220 - 2500 RPM and then it magically disappears and the engine pulls like 10 men. Sometimes it comes back, but usually it clears. After the restart its never running the same as from a cold morning restart. I have a hunch its affiliated with the throttle body in some, but reading my Sterling repair manuals I've seen distributor dust, spark plugs, fuel filter in tank, and temperature sensor as possible causes. Dale the Sterling Fixer gave me 5 things to look at too. It doesn't burn oil, no oil in coolant, and no coolant loss. Spark plugs are tight.
Has anyone experienced anything like this with an Acura...and maybe an educated place for me to look instead of just changing a bunch of parts? Thank you, Cliff
Those not acquainted with the Sterling its British made powered by Acura 2.7L V6. The early models (prior to 1988) were powered by 2.5L Acura. Each "fix" I've completed has made the car run incrementally better, The one issue I am experiencing with the engine I cannot seem to resolve...after the engine runs, and is restarted later, the engine has an annoying miss. This miss will continue until I press the accelerator and bring the engine up to 2220 - 2500 RPM and then it magically disappears and the engine pulls like 10 men. Sometimes it comes back, but usually it clears. After the restart its never running the same as from a cold morning restart. I have a hunch its affiliated with the throttle body in some, but reading my Sterling repair manuals I've seen distributor dust, spark plugs, fuel filter in tank, and temperature sensor as possible causes. Dale the Sterling Fixer gave me 5 things to look at too. It doesn't burn oil, no oil in coolant, and no coolant loss. Spark plugs are tight.
Has anyone experienced anything like this with an Acura...and maybe an educated place for me to look instead of just changing a bunch of parts? Thank you, Cliff
05-22-2020, 09:55 AM
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Same engine (C27A) was used in the CD-gen Accord as well, so may be a resource in that direction.