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This is beyond just copying. This is a gross and shameless lack of concern in blatantly copying.
The A7, has a similar body shape, but I don't see ALL THE SAME cues everywhere - they continue to maintain a design language that's molded around the basic shape. This one, is going further and also copying design language and that's where it really bugs me.
I really disliked the Audi _7 when they came out, but the design has grown on me a lot.
Saw one of the new ones recently, and not sold on it at first glance, IMO the late years 4G8 look better.
RE: Above Stinger/8GC. $50k for the Stinger or >$100k for the 8GC....
This is beyond just copying. This is a gross and shameless lack of concern in blatantly copying.
The A7, has a similar body shape, but I don't see ALL THE SAME cues everywhere - they continue to maintain a design language that's molded around the basic shape. This one, is going further and also copying design language and that's where it really bugs me.
While I realize the Stinger hit the market well before the 8GC, to be fair, BMW has been using most of these elements on its cars for quite a while longer than Kia. That being said, I completely understand where you are coming from on this. It certainly makes BMW look like a follower rather than an industry and design leader.
While I realize the Stinger hit the market well before the 8GC, to be fair, BMW has been using most of these elements on its cars for quite a while longer than Kia. That being said, I completely understand where you are coming from on this. It certainly makes BMW look like a follower rather than an industry and design leader.
Yup.. 6GC and 4GC were out long before Stinger... if we want to blame someone.. i think the actual trend all started with Mercedes CLS
i hate it when people say it like that.. annoying AF
But i love the fastback look if the trunk is a hatch... to me you get the best of both world, the practicability of wagon + the sleek look of coupe....
Now if the trunk opens like a regular Sedan, then all it does is reduce the rear head room.
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But i love the fastback look if the trunk is a hatch... to me you get the best of both world, the practicability of wagon + the sleek look of coupe....
Now if the trunk opens like a regular Sedan, then all it does is reduce the rear head room.
I remember when there were rumors about a liftback Accord - I was ecstatic. Then we get a dumpy ass with a normal trunk
I love the Arteon, but the price is ridiculous for a glorified Passat. You're better off pulling a @Yumcha and getting a Hyundai.
Yup.. 6GC and 4GC were out long before Stinger... if we want to blame someone.. i think the actual trend all started with Mercedes CLS
look at the Accord, Malibu too...
But - that is how it's always been - the lesser brands copy the higher ones. Corvette copies Ferrari. The Korean companies copy Rolls, Mercedes, BMW, etc. etc. Lexus LS was originally modeled to compete with the Mercedes S Class. And on and on.
When Kia has the Stinger out, it's BMW's job to be cognizant of this and NOT do what they did with the 8GC. This is where they need to branch away and do their own thing. If they had a guy like Bangle still on board I guarantee he would not have gone this route.
8GC is a replacement for 6GC... so i dont really see anything wrong with it. the shape, targeted audience and pricing are pretty much the same as the previous 6GC.
I think you are saying that 8GC is trying to copy Stinger in some ways. No it is not, it is a direct replacement for 6GC, which existed years before Stinger. While the Stinger does look nice in person, most of the people will not mistaken the 8GC with Stinger.
The next 4GC will be very similar to Stinger too... but we can't say it is copying Stinger since 4GC has had that design since 2013/2014.
The G90 looks like Hyundai tried to do a science experiment with a Genesis and the frame off of a totaled Rolls they bought off CL and created that unholy cursed abomination.
4GC, A5 sportback CLS, Even Accord, Malibu, all have pretty much the same shape. If it does not have that shape, then it is a 4 door coupay <--- @ coupay
If anything i think Stinger is more similar to A7's shape than 8GC, since 8GC's trunkline looks more like a traditional trunk (because it is).
Yup, i agree the shape look similar. But dont they all look like that or all have the similar shapes (all fastback, 4 door coupe, gran coupe looking sedans?)
Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I'm referring specifically to these design elements:
06-19-2019, 11:03 PM
$50k for the Stinger or >$100k for the 8GC....
i hate it when people say it like that.. annoying AF
I remember when there were rumors about a liftback Accord - I was ecstatic. Then we get a dumpy ass with a normal trunk 
Not a looker for sure.
