srika

ah so you get it from having had to work on VW's. I get it. similar to what happened to me when I used to work on Macs in the OS9 days.

Costco

Agh.... my ideal car. See, I feel interiors are such a fickle thing.... as long as the ergonomics are in place, other things such as design/materials are moot.

If I could afford it I'd pick up an 08 C6Z and send it to Caravaggio if I really wanted to. You can have a car that shits on Ferraris inside and out AND you can work on it at home.

ttribe

What about those Murcielago SV's we saw in the window?

srika

yeah see I'm not crazy about the Z06 interior - but I'd let it slide just because the rest of the car is so bad ass.

and, Murci SV... uhh... yeah... I'll get right on that.

btw. Caravaggio interior looks nice

ttribe

One can dream....

Costco

And in childhood I was smitten with Ferraris until as I got older I talked to people who were very interested in buying them. Valve adjustments every 10k miles or so, timing belt service every 30k which requires the engine to be dropped, stuff like that.

You'd probably have to or would much prefer going to an actual licensed Ferrari mechanic. $$$$$. Or you might say, but it's a Ferrari, I probably wouldn't drive it much anyway. In that case, what's the point? Letting a glorious car which was meant to be driven sit underneath a cover or just not be driven is stupid

Ferrari is nothing more than a brand, I bet they make more money selling hats, keychains and apparel than they do selling cars. Damned if you do, damned if you don't drive one often. Sometimes it seems like more of a conversation piece than a driving machine.

On the other hand I could probably daily a Z06 and its maintenance would probably be no different than a standard Corvette or even a similarly equipped LS3 Camaro. More oil for the dry sump, sure. But even a shadetree mechanic like me could probably work on a Z06. And you can lower it for free/cheap

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

For $35k I can get a used Elise with money to spare. If I look harder I could find an Exige too. Or a nice NSX. $35k for the Golf R is a bit expensive for me. I understand the Lotus/NSX and the VW are two completely different cars, but still.

srika

now that we are talking about all the other options, $35k does seem like too much for the Golf.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

I don't know why but I don't like the idea of getting an used car. I gotta get over this though, there seems to be a lot of great used cars..

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

seriously

srika

another personal thing, personally for me, I don't think I'll ever buy a new car again.

ttribe

I'm leaning that direction as well. Our previous two cars were both purchased new ('03 Pilot and '06 TL). Don't know if I'll do that again given the deals one can get on a really good used car.

hANDYcaptd

iTrader: (5)

This is my first new car and probably my last. I checked the value on my car a month or 2 after I bought it....and holy crap! I never realized the significance of the depreciation hit that others often talk about. But man, when I see the numbers...

Aman

New cars and used cars have their highs and lows.

Buying a new car is much more expensive, but there's a lot less stress involved. You don't have to worry about how the car was treated, maintenance history, collision damage, or anything that the seller might be hiding.

KillerG

+1

you are paying for a lot of piece of mind with a new car ^

you never know what mixed bag of goodies you might end up with on a used car, or what it went through in its previous life. Some are better than others, and sure new cars have problems too, but yeah. Also the feeling of getting a new car and bringing it home from the dealership is pretty awesome, gotta say, you know you all like it too.

Applies to purchasing a used car too but new is just so freshh

Rick_TL-S

With how many miles though? Curious because C6 Z06's still seem to holding their value pretty well.

speedemon90

I'm with you.

I dont like the idea of someone else driving my car lol.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

I know. For some reason, I can't get over it yet.

JS + XES

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Have you guys checked out this car???

http://www.landrover.com/us/en/rr/range-rover-evoque/

I'm thisclose to force my wife to sell her A4 Avant and get this.

So HAWT The pricing isn't too bad either.

KillerG

i believe it was top gear's car of the year for 2011. High praise

srika

srika

LOVE the Evoque! that is some hot ass sh8t right there.

RR really knows SUV designs, I wonder have they improved on their (dismal) quality record?

speedemon90

I saw it at the auto show, its definitely a looker haha. The design is good in and out. Not the most spacious though and kinda pricey? I haven't looked at features so I cant really justify that.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

I'm so curious on the reliability rating too. Such a shame because they make beautiful cars.

REALLY??? To me, it looks like something that's in the upper $60-70k.

ANNNNND just for the record, this is the car that looks exactly the same as its concept car!

charliemike

Umm, 70 horsepower and AWD for $4k is not a bad deal.

And APR's Stage 1 for the 2.0T in the GTI is 252/303 not 300/250. Kinda a big difference.

But if you don't think it's worth it, that's why it's great to have choices. You can spend the money on something else

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

but but but $4k worth of goodies on GTI = FAST

Both are great cars for their prices. It's just a matter of preference.

charliemike

speedemon90

Yea okk it does look expensive, nvm i do take that comment back the quality of materials inside was really nice. I just thought it had a small engine

and on the concept comment, touche

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

What's the engine size for that car? I don't event know that. hahaha The look of it just got me so excited. Crazy.

srika

I hear you. And I have similar feelings, IF I think about it. And that's the trick, don't think about it. Also if it's a car you are passionate about, get one that is "like new". And by that I mean under or around 10k miles.

ttribe

Evoque? It's got Ford's Ecoboost Turbo 4 in it.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Yeah, for my next car, I'm going to try to find something that's under 10k miles. It's either going to be M3 sedan with less than 10k miles OR a MX-5 as a second car.

Just remembered I read a review couple weeks ago. And yes, the review was great in terms of the engine performance also! And it's a SUV, if it goes, then it's fine.

Rick_TL-S

You've got quite a few in your area! As far as C6 Z06s go, most of the ones here on the used market are '08s & up. I checked last night & only found 1 2006 & 1 2007 model, both for $40K+.

srika

^^ those aren't in my area, look at the cities, they are all over the place.

Rick_TL-S

Oh.

speedemon90

You know whats another good plan! Just be wealthy enough so that you dont even have to think about getting hit with the depreciation
I know I'm gonna face another problem in life, selling cars or getting rid of them.

As much as i want a new car I dont wanna see my tl go and I know eventually its got too

But yea you get my point.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

The second you make enough to pick up whatever shiny new F-car is out, you wouldnt even think twice about getting rid of the TL.

But I hope if you are able to afford a Ferrari, just fuck with the dealer and make them accept the TL as a trade in

Aman

I can see the ad now:

2000 Taffeta White TL: 180,000 miles, one owner! Leather, sunroof. Call Don at Ferrari/Lamborghini/Rolls Royce of Southern California.

srika

interview with the creator of the GT-R

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charliemike

Club-Track edition under 7:00 @ the 'Ring?

For a production car under $110k that's just insane.