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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Yeah, but it looks like it was out of the early-'00s
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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G8 GT interior isn't bad at all imo. Not great compared to infotainment options today, but pretty nice when they first came out.



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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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I mean.. it is.. just a pontiac after all.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 12:37 AM
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I think it's about on par with what else GM was making at that time... so yeah Costco, I agree.

Was there ever an aftermarket fix for the skip-shift feature in the manual GXPs?
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 01:09 AM
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I'd own a G8 GT. It was one of the few domestic sedans to ever tempt me.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 01:24 AM
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I'd own a G8 GT. It was one of the few domestic sedans to ever tempt me.
Surely the CTS-V was enticing
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Was there ever an aftermarket fix for the skip-shift feature in the manual GXPs?
Yep.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 11:05 AM
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I was a fan of the Vauxhall Insignia VXR. Turbocharged V6, Haldex AWD. When GM brought it to the states, they gave it FWD and a turbocharged L4 and it's still pricy. Wonder why it doesn't sell...

http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/microsite/vxr/insignia/

Beyond that though, yeah. Domestic sedans mostly suck, other than the aforementioned Charger/G8/CTS-V.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I've never been a Chrysler/Dodge guy but that's a good point.

I don't think I'd pay $45K for a 300C or a SS to be honest. At least not new.

The SRT-8 holds its value pretty well. I'm seeing 2012 SRT-8s still in the $40-42K range.

seems like an odd ball.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
G8 GT interior isn't bad at all imo. Not great compared to infotainment options today, but pretty nice when they first came out.
I'd say that interior is better than any current Chevy interior, design-wise.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
If you like cheap chrome accents I guess.. I mean seriously.. wtf is this?

"Hey enthusiasts, our seats now have cheap plastic chrome accents to make it appear that you have a genuine harness pass through... ehh.. amirite"


here's how the CLA45 does it. and it starts at $48k.

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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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^^ I should say, those are optional sport seats
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of the metal on the CLA45 seats either but it is very, very obvious that the Mercedes seats are much nicer and higher quality seats than the SS.

Given that the Mercedes and SS start around the same price, I can only conclude that GM thinks putting that V8 in the SS justifies about a $10k price bump.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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There's a CLA45?

shit.. just looked it up. A 2.0T that paces the M3.

0-60: 4.2
1/4: 12.7 @ 109
Lats: 0.96g
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I'm not a huge fan of the metal on the CLA45 seats either but it is very, very obvious that the Mercedes seats are much nicer and higher quality seats than the SS.

Given that the Mercedes and SS start around the same price, I can only conclude that GM thinks putting that V8 in the SS justifies about a $10k price bump.
the holes, Luke. the holes.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Love how the CLA45 seats are on piece.. gorgeous.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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today (not my pic)

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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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nice ^^
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Sidenote, had a family member recently get a CLA250. I can indeed confirm the interior would blow away the Chevy SS interior, not that it's any surprise.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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Then the question becomes: SS or CLA?
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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Costco's a redneck, SS.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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I would still get an SS, because V8. And one of the greatest mod-able V8's ever to grace the automotive world. How easy would it be to throw a supercharger on it and make 500 whp with no problems? Try doing that in the Benz, when the turbo already makes 21 psi (IIRC).
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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In my area the CLA45 is $5k more than the SS. Even then the SS is ~$43k, which itself is $5k more than a G8 GXP was... and even that was $8k more than the G8 GT!!

The SS isn't just a reskinned GXP with a new interior, but I'm not sure it's worth the huge jump. If they had the SS starting at $36k I'd be all over it like flies on shit. But in the mid $40s it's tough.

Can I choose neither? I loved that the G8 GT started under $30k, but it made the GXP seem like a waste by comparison.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Performance per dollar isn't the end-all but it explains my bias for domestics. Another thing is having a clutch pedal ups the appeal a lot.

My thing with German cars is that they're like girls with boob jobs and designer handbags. Nice to look at, anyway.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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This is cool...profiles Singer's custom Porsches...

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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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I'd rather a G8 over the SS. What part of this design says "2014, $40,000"? Nothing (aside from the cheestastic LEDs everyone tacks on these days). I'm a design over performance person, and this design is simply poor.

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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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This car had potential, but the lack of advertising/promotion along with the lack of a manual transmission and a high price hasn't helped it increase it's appeal.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 01:58 AM
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More like lack of design.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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It's just as bland in person as in photos, too. Such a shame they messed the SS up by a reused design and over pricing it. They've been killing it lately but this ones going to be a dud I suspect.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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It's just as bland in person as in photos, too. Such a shame they messed the SS up by a reused design and over pricing it. They've been killing it lately but this ones going to be a dud I suspect.
Right. The C7 is sublime, new Impala looks nice, etc. Chevy has it in them to make a good design, but the SS evokes no emotion.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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The C7 is sublime
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
here's how the CLA45 does it. and it starts at $48k.

That's only when you add the "MB-Tex upper dash and door trim with top-stitching". If you don't have that option, and only the AMG Performance front seats, the "chrome" is dark.

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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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On last Saturday night, I spotted this IS-F with an aftermarket exhaust that sounded like thundergod. It sounded SO GOOD. Even my wife said that sounds freaking good.

Didn't know those things can sound very godlike.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Yeah, but did it have the fake exhaust cut-outs?
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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Yep. Still with 4 assholes.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/car-rev...rx-review/#/20

I know it's digitaltrends review... but really... Hate Subaru for messing up this generation...
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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What's wrong with digitaltrends? First time reading one of their reviews.

For the money, the 2015 Subaru WRX is perhaps the best handling, most fun car on the market of any segment.
Sounds good to me

I just don't like the exterior styling. The interior is actually nice for once, relatively speaking ($25k segment). I'd like to think the manual is a more common pick than the CVT compared to other cars.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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What's wrong with digitaltrends? First time reading one of their reviews.
Because they said a WRX with a CVT is "fun to drive"
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