General Car Talk Discussion Thread
11-02-2011, 10:07 PM
#361
SENNA AND DRIVE ARE BOTH AWESOME MOVIES
WATCH THEM
YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME
for the record though, drive has very little driving in it.
WATCH THEM
YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME
for the record though, drive has very little driving in it.
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11-03-2011, 11:44 AM
#362
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50 years of Japanese concept cars. Some are super ugly but some are beautiful.
I like the Mazda RX-500
http://pinktentacle.com/2010/09/phot...-concept-cars/
I like the Mazda RX-500
http://pinktentacle.com/2010/09/phot...-concept-cars/
11-03-2011, 12:58 PM
#363
Whats up with RDX owners?
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The Mitsubishi HSR II and Mitsuoka Orochi is pretty cool looking. Very Pagani like.
11-03-2011, 04:21 PM
#364
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wait, what?
http://jalopnik.com/5855983/the-197-...ew-mazda-miata
Scion FR-S
<cite> By Matt Hardigree </cite>
Nov 3, 2011 2:30 PM
The 197 HP Scion FR-S is the new Mazda Miata
The Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 gets talked about as a Mustang Killer and competition for the Hyundai Genesis and other muscle cars. It really isn't, although maybe the Subaru BRZ will be. But new specs from FT86club make it clear this car will actually compete directly with the Mazda Miata/MX-5, even if it's never marketed that way.
The first FR-S spec drop gave us the weight (2,662 pounds) and power (197 hp/151 lb-ft), as well as the displacement (2.0 liters) and letting us know it'll have an LSD in all but the base automatic model.
A look at the specs shows the FR-S has identical displacement to the MX-5, and, although it weighs approximately 200 pounds more, an extra 30 horsepower in its pancaked boxer engine.
And then came today's pages from the JDM manual. The FR-S/FT-86 has a lower center of gravity than the Porsche Cayman, Nissan GT-R and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. The F/R weight distribution is 53/47 and the cD of 0.27 is better than a Honda CR-Z and almost as good as a Toyota Prius.
The suspension graphics show a Macpherson strut up front and a double-wishbone setup out back. If you're thinking that this sounds like the makings of a great track day car, then guess what — you're not alone.
Buried in the pages from the web's JDM Deep Throat is a graphic showing how you can fold the seats down to fit an extra four tires for "track days."
Buyers may not think to cross-shop a Scion FR-S and a Miata, nor will Toyota necessarily make that the first point of comparison.
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But if you're looking for the best slow-car-fast option Toyota's clearly built a car with slightly more weight, a lot more power, and more room for track-day essentials than the Mazda.
http://jalopnik.com/5855983/the-197-...ew-mazda-miata
Scion FR-S <cite> By Matt Hardigree </cite>
Nov 3, 2011 2:30 PM
The 197 HP Scion FR-S is the new Mazda Miata
The Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 gets talked about as a Mustang Killer and competition for the Hyundai Genesis and other muscle cars. It really isn't, although maybe the Subaru BRZ will be. But new specs from FT86club make it clear this car will actually compete directly with the Mazda Miata/MX-5, even if it's never marketed that way.
The first FR-S spec drop gave us the weight (2,662 pounds) and power (197 hp/151 lb-ft), as well as the displacement (2.0 liters) and letting us know it'll have an LSD in all but the base automatic model.
A look at the specs shows the FR-S has identical displacement to the MX-5, and, although it weighs approximately 200 pounds more, an extra 30 horsepower in its pancaked boxer engine.
And then came today's pages from the JDM manual. The FR-S/FT-86 has a lower center of gravity than the Porsche Cayman, Nissan GT-R and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. The F/R weight distribution is 53/47 and the cD of 0.27 is better than a Honda CR-Z and almost as good as a Toyota Prius.
The suspension graphics show a Macpherson strut up front and a double-wishbone setup out back. If you're thinking that this sounds like the makings of a great track day car, then guess what — you're not alone.Buried in the pages from the web's JDM Deep Throat is a graphic showing how you can fold the seats down to fit an extra four tires for "track days."
Buyers may not think to cross-shop a Scion FR-S and a Miata, nor will Toyota necessarily make that the first point of comparison.
Full size
But if you're looking for the best slow-car-fast option Toyota's clearly built a car with slightly more weight, a lot more power, and more room for track-day essentials than the Mazda.
11-03-2011, 04:52 PM
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Precisely why I want this car. I probably wont get it in the first year or two. Ill wait for the mid-model change and jump on it then. It should be one hell of a fun car.
11-03-2011, 05:08 PM
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I saw that car in person today at SEMA 
11-03-2011, 09:25 PM
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Would love to get one of these out of school...
11-03-2011, 09:39 PM
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11-04-2011, 12:25 AM
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I drive a Subata.
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i would certainly test drive it and read all the reviews!
maybe ill get one if it lives up to its hype!
maybe ill get one if it lives up to its hype!
11-04-2011, 04:10 AM
#371
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damn its gonna rain tomorrow well technically today. Gotta be careful driving on baldish tires 
I really need to put an order in for new ones.
I really need to put an order in for new ones.
11-04-2011, 08:58 AM
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I expect a thread by September at the latest. 
11-04-2011, 11:58 AM
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lol check out this douche.... there is a trend starting in there, have a look... LOL
http://www.jdmchicago.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20332
http://www.jdmchicago.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20332
11-04-2011, 12:10 PM
#374
Fahrvergnügen'd
It's a great time to be a hot hatch fan in Europe:
New Fiat 500 Abarth SS, new Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Astra VXR, 208GTi, Golf R, and possibly Polo R too.
The production Focus ST looks awesome and it's pretty big too. Might be a good substitute for a wagon
New Fiat 500 Abarth SS, new Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Astra VXR, 208GTi, Golf R, and possibly Polo R too.
The production Focus ST looks awesome and it's pretty big too. Might be a good substitute for a wagon
11-04-2011, 04:22 PM
#375
And a not-as-good time to be one in the US.
Sometimes I think our cheap gas relative to other countries is a gift and a curse. It enables us to travel in cars much more practical and gives us some more options. At the same time nobody gives a crap about small, fun hatchbacks as much. You get more tools in huge ass SUVs blocking your line of sight when you try and back out of a driveway or parking spot instead.
and we don't get cars like the CTR, Abarth SS, Scirocco, etc
Sometimes I think our cheap gas relative to other countries is a gift and a curse. It enables us to travel in cars much more practical and gives us some more options. At the same time nobody gives a crap about small, fun hatchbacks as much. You get more tools in huge ass SUVs blocking your line of sight when you try and back out of a driveway or parking spot instead.
and we don't get cars like the CTR, Abarth SS, Scirocco, etc
11-04-2011, 04:55 PM
#376
Fahrvergnügen'd
And a not-as-good time to be one in the US.
Sometimes I think our cheap gas relative to other countries is a gift and a curse. It enables us to travel in cars much more practical and gives us some more options. At the same time nobody gives a crap about small, fun hatchbacks as much. You get more tools in huge ass SUVs blocking your line of sight when you try and back out of a driveway or parking spot instead. and we don't get cars like the CTR, Abarth SS, Scirocco, etc
Sometimes I think our cheap gas relative to other countries is a gift and a curse. It enables us to travel in cars much more practical and gives us some more options. At the same time nobody gives a crap about small, fun hatchbacks as much. You get more tools in huge ass SUVs blocking your line of sight when you try and back out of a driveway or parking spot instead.
and we don't get cars like the CTR, Abarth SS, Scirocco, etc
11-04-2011, 09:33 PM
#377
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oh god...... I just watched some LFA videos............ the sound......... is just............. tantalizingly addictively seductive........... 
11-04-2011, 11:04 PM
#378
So who here has experience with the G37 S models? I know we have a few owners on here (or did?), & I'm really considering it, since it'll basically be the RWD Coupe I wish my TL could be.
11-04-2011, 11:38 PM
#379
I haven't driven any of the 7AT or 6MT variants though. It gets mediocre fuel economy though.... 18-20 mpg average. I suppose that's not awful for a sporty coupe. We got 26 mpg on 4-5 hour trips with the A/C on. You probably don't care but the backseat is awful for said long trips
I'd say its a good amount sportier than a base 3G TL. Not sure about a 3G TL-S.
11-05-2011, 08:30 PM
#380
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Buy a damn usb cable for your camera! Theres a Frys Electronics store on Las Vegas Blvd near 215.Nah. Give me the low power engine in the Toyota for insurance purposes, while still using all the Subaru aftermarket performance parts
You still didn't get tires??lol check out this douche.... there is a trend starting in there, have a look... LOL
http://www.jdmchicago.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20332
http://www.jdmchicago.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20332
Dont think Ive seen a CL with LED taillights on here.
hot hatches.And a not-as-good time to be one in the US.
Sometimes I think our cheap gas relative to other countries is a gift and a curse. It enables us to travel in cars much more practical and gives us some more options. At the same time nobody gives a crap about small, fun hatchbacks as much. You get more tools in huge ass SUVs blocking your line of sight when you try and back out of a driveway or parking spot instead. and we don't get cars like the CTR, Abarth SS, Scirocco, etc
Sometimes I think our cheap gas relative to other countries is a gift and a curse. It enables us to travel in cars much more practical and gives us some more options. At the same time nobody gives a crap about small, fun hatchbacks as much. You get more tools in huge ass SUVs blocking your line of sight when you try and back out of a driveway or parking spot instead.
and we don't get cars like the CTR, Abarth SS, Scirocco, etc
/justdrovefromVAtoNYandbackin24hoursandisabitpissed offatmyfellowdriversrant
11-05-2011, 08:53 PM
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11-05-2011, 09:29 PM
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11-05-2011, 09:31 PM
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11-05-2011, 10:06 PM
#384
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Sharp cheddar please.
11-06-2011, 01:30 PM
#385
I test drove a used sedan version. It was pretty nice, overall. It handled well, felt kind of quick but not as visceral as some other cars (probably between the luxury sound deadening and, I believe, a modulated electronic throttle response). The problems I had were lack of feedback, especially from the steering wheel, some difficulty finding sixth gear (although the other gears went into their gates with solid precision) and an unsettling constant vibration in the stick itself. I probably would have been far more impressed if I hadn't taken a BMW 328i down some back roads a few nights before.
11-12-2011, 11:49 PM
#386
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anyone else driven the 2012 Chevy Cruze? my friend drove me around today in his 6MT and i was very impressed with the space inside, "luxury" features, and the interior quality.
i was shocked when he told me the dealer had 4 6MTs in stock. he took delivery the same day. i have never been able to take delivery on the same day with any of my own/family's vehicles.
by the end of the ride, i found myself really wanting a Chevy Cruze
i was shocked when he told me the dealer had 4 6MTs in stock. he took delivery the same day. i have never been able to take delivery on the same day with any of my own/family's vehicles.
by the end of the ride, i found myself really wanting a Chevy Cruze
11-13-2011, 05:35 PM
#388
Suzuka Master
Even the nurburgring gets traffic!
there were a couple of close calls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYINRvTIBl8
there were a couple of close calls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYINRvTIBl8
11-13-2011, 07:49 PM
#390
My cousin has a G37 S coupe. I like the way it drives.... haven't pushed it but going around some twisty roads (the Santa Cruz mountains are well-known to locals) I like it. The steering is nicely weighted and even stock it has that nice VQ growl. All the amenities you'd really need. Handles nicely for a coupe of its size.
I haven't driven any of the 7AT or 6MT variants though. It gets mediocre fuel economy though.... 18-20 mpg average. I suppose that's not awful for a sporty coupe. We got 26 mpg on 4-5 hour trips with the A/C on. You probably don't care but the backseat is awful for said long trips
I'd say its a good amount sportier than a base 3G TL. Not sure about a 3G TL-S.
I haven't driven any of the 7AT or 6MT variants though. It gets mediocre fuel economy though.... 18-20 mpg average. I suppose that's not awful for a sporty coupe. We got 26 mpg on 4-5 hour trips with the A/C on. You probably don't care but the backseat is awful for said long trips
I'd say its a good amount sportier than a base 3G TL. Not sure about a 3G TL-S.
I test drove a used sedan version. It was pretty nice, overall. It handled well, felt kind of quick but not as visceral as some other cars (probably between the luxury sound deadening and, I believe, a modulated electronic throttle response). The problems I had were lack of feedback, especially from the steering wheel, some difficulty finding sixth gear (although the other gears went into their gates with solid precision) and an unsettling constant vibration in the stick itself. I probably would have been far more impressed if I hadn't taken a BMW 328i down some back roads a few nights before.
I'll be test driving an AT & a MT G37S Coupe tomorrow to make my first official thoughts.
11-14-2011, 03:20 PM
#391
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Going to the LA auto show this saturday!! 
Also going to test drive the CTS-V there! I love cadillac! They're bringing out all the V's for test drives! Getting there early so there's no line and I can tear up LA with no traffic! Excited!
Also going to test drive the CTS-V there! I love cadillac! They're bringing out all the V's for test drives! Getting there early so there's no line and I can tear up LA with no traffic! Excited!
11-14-2011, 05:17 PM
#392
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How do I sign up for test drives???????? I want to go!
11-14-2011, 09:49 PM
#394
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You dont sign up you just go to the auto show. Various automakers will have tents set up by the streets and you go and just sign a wavier and stuff and go drive it.
They were there at the OC autoshow too. Cadillac had the CTS V's there too. Their rule was you had to drive one of their regular cars before you get in the line for the V that way it keeps that line down. I would have done that but i wasnt 21 a couple months ago
Now I am though!!
Here's the list of cars they're bringing. It could change. I hope chrysler brings out some srt vehicles. They did at the OC auto show.
http://laautoshow.com/TestDrives.html
They were there at the OC autoshow too. Cadillac had the CTS V's there too. Their rule was you had to drive one of their regular cars before you get in the line for the V that way it keeps that line down. I would have done that but i wasnt 21 a couple months ago
Now I am though!!
Here's the list of cars they're bringing. It could change. I hope chrysler brings out some srt vehicles. They did at the OC auto show.
http://laautoshow.com/TestDrives.html
11-15-2011, 11:08 AM
#396
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You guys check out the '13 GT500??
650hp!! 200mph car
650hp!! 200mph car
11-15-2011, 11:10 AM
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holy crap, Mustang? that's crazy! FINALLY Ford steps into the ring with a real contender!!!
11-15-2011, 11:11 AM
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11-15-2011, 11:23 AM
#399
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Ohh nice its going to be at the Auto Show! Sweet! I'll be seeing it there!
I hope Ford puts the suspension in this thing to handle all that power haha.
I know Chevy put a good set up in the ZL1.
I hope Ford puts the suspension in this thing to handle all that power haha.
I know Chevy put a good set up in the ZL1.
11-15-2011, 11:36 AM
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Umm, have you been around Staples Center when the auto show is in town??! The area is pretty congested. "No traffic" does occur-- but only after midnight and before 7 a.m.!
Do you know if the test drives are on the street or on the Convention Center property?