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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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G35 gets upgraded!

http://www.autospies.com/article/ind...9&categoryId=8
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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The G35 forums have been pretty busy with this news. A slight change for the better but as admited by owners on G35 forums the interior is still not as nice as a TL.
The HP bump to 277 from 260 in the sedan seems to be a reaffirmation of the true power of the previous engine not necessarily an actual increase.
Infiniti made their good entry level sedan/coupe even better - standard stuff for a midlife upgrade.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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295HP on the Coupe??

That would mean the 350Z would have to be bumped to 300HP, as its the flagship.

Then again this is Autospies so

277HP and 270 lbs-ft in the Sedan trump the TL.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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nice, 19" forged wheels for the G35C
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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dang, i'm all over that!

still dissapointed there is no AWD on the G35 coupe. but, man, i'm excited!

the G35c is still on my wish list!
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Once again, I have to say it...

STOP quoting Autospies!!!

I don't report everything the National Inquirer says, do I?

Junkster, who can't emphasize this enough
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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It's OK junkster - autospies is republishing the info directly from a public Nissan announcement.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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haha, junkster is a little upset by this news! lol
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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THey had this over at ACL also...THe guage cluster looks exactly like the TSXs...exept their colors are orange..
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
The G35 forums have been pretty busy with this news. A slight change for the better but as admited by owners on G35 forums the interior is still not as nice as a TL.
The HP bump to 277 from 260 in the sedan seems to be a reaffirmation of the true power of the previous engine not necessarily an actual increase.
Infiniti made their good entry level sedan/coupe even better - standard stuff for a midlife upgrade.
Sounds more like current owners trying to rationalize their purchase over a newer model.

My only complaint with the current interior was the materials, not the design and it sounds like they've been taken care of, mainly by getting rid of that chunk of silver plastic along the center console.

As far as the hp, I think its very unlikely that they only upped the number and not the power, but we shall see soon enough.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Looks like Infiniti's intent on not letting anyone else beat it in the HP game. I have to give credit to them for listening to the complaints about the interior material. At least now they're using real aluminum trim, although I still don't like the design. But now Infiniti has to keep upping the HP on other models if the G35 is to be its cheapest offering.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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But now Infiniti has to keep upping the HP on other models if the G35 is to be its cheapest offering.
I was wondering about that. A lot of models use the same VQ engine and I assume there's little difference between them so they'll all get the same upgrade as the G35 got.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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You can't expect the max and Altima to now get 277HP, but you bet the upcoming V6 M35 will have equal if not more HP than the G.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by domn
You can't expect the max and Altima to now get 277HP, but you bet the upcoming V6 M35 will have equal if not more HP than the G.
Makes me wonder just how much more headroom there is for increased power with the VQ before their reliability goes all to shit.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Probably not much more. The upcoming Acura RL is supposedly getting 300hp but only for the US market, in Japan it'll be rated at 280hp. I don't know if that's to conform with the so-called gentleman's agreement or not, though. But Infiniti is probably going to top the VQ at somewhere around 300 also.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
dang, i'm all over that!

still dissapointed there is no AWD on the G35 coupe. but, man, i'm excited!

the G35c is still on my wish list!
I still like the G35 and this '05 is an improvement!
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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here is another link if you don't trust autospies
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...ewID=news_view
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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looks like Infiniti is getting ready for the new 3 series and IS comming in a year or so... hope acura gives the TL the SHAWD or its going to get left further behind in the performance category.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gilboman
hope acura gives the TL the SHAWD
No you don't.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Just when you thought gilboman was coming around.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
You can't expect the max and Altima to now get 277HP, but you bet the upcoming V6 M35 will have equal if not more HP than the G.
No, the Alti and Max will probably not change HP (250hp/246lb-ft and 265hp/255lb-ft, respectively). Although the limited edition SE-R may challenge the 6MT TL when it comes to overpowering the front wheels with gobs of torque, I'd bet the SE-R will have the same power as the Maxima.

The M35 is currently rated at 270+ hp so it'll probably be on par with the G35S (powerwise). The M45 will still have a 340hp VK45DE motor; thus, a solid HP/TQ advantage over the M35/G35. Question is: how will it be geared and how much will it (M45) weigh?
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Nissan has quite a few newly designed vehicles for 2005: Altima, Pathfinder, Xterra. On the nissan news site, the interiors of these look really alike. I'm sorry to say that I don't really like the way they look.

The top models of these new vehicles all have 250hp. I guess the mpg will suffer at the same time.

Of course, all things can look alright (definitely not the xterra), wait until the test drive.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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self correction

Originally Posted by F23A4
No, the Alti and Max will probably not change HP (250hp/246lb-ft and 265hp/255lb-ft, respectively). Although the limited edition SE-R may challenge the 6MT TL when it comes to overpowering the front wheels with gobs of torque, I'd bet the SE-R will have the same power as the Maxima.

The M35 is currently rated at 270+ hp so it'll probably be on par with the G35S (powerwise). The M45 will still have a 340hp VK45DE motor; thus, a solid HP/TQ advantage over the M35/G35. Question is: how will it be geared and how much will it (M45) weigh?
The Alti has 250hp/249lb-ft.

The Xterra is unique in that it displaces 4L versus the Nissan-typical 3.5L. That said, it's an eyesore.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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I like the new xterra, one of the last rugged looking suvs. Everything else cept the 4runner has gone to the soccer moms.
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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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The new interior of the G35 is nicer than before, but still not as nice as either the TSX or TL.

One of the things that turned me away from the G35 when I was shopping for a car was its poor gas mileage. I wonder if this new one would be even worse than before? This is even more of a concern these days with our current gas prices.
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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ostrich
The new interior of the G35 is nicer than before, but still not as nice as either the TSX or TL.

One of the things that turned me away from the G35 when I was shopping for a car was its poor gas mileage. I wonder if this new one would be even worse than before? This is even more of a concern these days with our current gas prices.
you gotta pay to play...it does nearly have a 100lb/ft torque and 60hp advantage compared to you, so it obviously will take more gas as well. And a general comment about all these interior comments, its not as nice as a TSX or TL but its improved with this edition and the performance is heads and shoulders above before already. and the TSX and TL interior is not as nice as a Lexus ES as well, but the purpose of the cars are different so you guys dont complain, same should be applied to the G35. the G35 is a real sportsedan in its mission which is different than TSX and TL which are sporty entry lux sedans. until they release SH-AWD on TL anyways.
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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ostrich
The new interior of the G35 is nicer than before, but still not as nice as either the TSX or TL.

One of the things that turned me away from the G35 when I was shopping for a car was its poor gas mileage. I wonder if this new one would be even worse than before? This is even more of a concern these days with our current gas prices.
Hondas/Acuras are known for fuel economy and a strong reason for purchase. I think even if the G35 made 40mpg, in driving it hard (like it should be) it would get lower gas mileage. People don't buy sports sedans for gas mileage.
Well until the Lexus GT model high-performance hybrids start coming in a couple years.
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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Well until the Lexus GT model high-performance hybrids start coming in a couple years.


I can't wait to see those..
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Hondas/Acuras are known for fuel economy and a strong reason for purchase. I think even if the G35 made 40mpg, in driving it hard (like it should be) it would get lower gas mileage. People don't buy sports sedans for gas mileage.
Well until the Lexus GT model high-performance hybrids start coming in a couple years.
There's no free lunch. It's very difficult to make a car go 0-60 in 6s and have 40MPG.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Gilbo, 1sicklex and biker, you are all absolutely correct - there is no free lunch and I would not expect the G35 to get even 30 mpg. However, I didn't need all the power and speed of the G35, and so it was not the best choice for me. It probably is for some people, but for me, fuel economy (as well as interior appointment) is more important than having 0-60mph shorter by 1-2 seconds. There needs to be a good balance between performance and fuel economy for me.

I am another one who can't wait to see those hybrid sports sedans coming!
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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It probably is for some people, but for me, fuel economy (as well as interior appointment) is more important than having 0-60mph shorter by 1-2 seconds. There needs to be a good balance between performance and fuel economy for me.
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I think the perfect balance in a drivetrain for something like this is the 3L inline 6 w/ MT from BMW. Many 530 owners report milage of mid 30s on the hgihway and mid 20s around town. And the last time I looked the preformance was pretty damn good too. It's just too bad it's wrapped in some the most expensive and unsightly sheet metal.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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There's no free lunch. It's very difficult to make a car go 0-60 in 6s and have 40MPG.
See this is the attitude that 99% of the people and car companies have against hybrids. Lexus will use the approach of, "yes there is free lunch once you can pay for it".
THe RX 400h coming this Novemeber.
270hp
lower 0-60 (I heard low 7 seconds possibly high 6s) and 0-100 times.
City mileage of 36mpg, highway 34mpg
Looks almost identical to the RX (no silly electric car styling)
The RX 330 offers
230hp
0-60 in 8 seconds
Mileage of about 22-24mpg.

The RX 400h will cost more but is the first example of hybrids being used and marketed for performance improvements as well as fuel economy benefits. It may cost 10% more, maybe $4,000 more, which you will save over time with paying less for gas.
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Does anyone have pics of new G35?

Does anyone have pics of new G35?
I have seen some on nissannews.com but they have only two images there. I wanted to see the new back.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pantji
Does anyone have pics of new G35?
I have seen some on nissannews.com but they have only two images there. I wanted to see the new back.




Looks like the rear end of the sedan has undergone some drastic changes and thank god because it was looking dated IMO.

I can't see much difference in the Coupe but I think the back may be changed as well. Hope they tread lightly with the coupe's restyling because it looked fine as it was.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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Gilbo, 1sicklex and biker, you are all absolutely correct - there is no free lunch and I would not expect the G35 to get even 30 mpg. However, I didn't need all the power and speed of the G35, and so it was not the best choice for me. It probably is for some people, but for me, fuel economy (as well as interior appointment) is more important than having 0-60mph shorter by 1-2 seconds. There needs to be a good balance between performance and fuel economy for me.

I am another one who can't wait to see those hybrid sports sedans coming!

Waiting to see what the AV6 Hybrid will look like...
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Waiting to see what the AV6 Hybrid will look like...
Yeah - I think this is getting underplayed ... this will be HUGE. Dumb question though ... they are just doing the AV6 sedan with hybrid/VCM right?
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