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The Frontier Needed ... less rattles

Also it needed 90 more hp, 4wd, cruise control, power windows, and power door locks!.



2011 X trim package (which means lol you still don't get map lights).


This is called a 3/4 view, but I'm a poor photographer and only managed 5/8.


I'll still keep the frontier somewhere, They aren't worth much anymore and somebody in the extended family always needs to borrow a truck. Who knows it may retire to become the Desert Runner it always wanted to be.
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Congratulations! I've always liked the Xterra.
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congrats, don't get t-boned or take a turn at more than 5 mph, and be certain every passenger wears a seatbelt at all times!
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Too late, took a turn at 6mph this morning and 3 people died.

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Too late, took a turn at 6mph this morning and 3 people died.



Nice pictures, btw. You're better at photography than you say.
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Congratulations OP. We owned a 2007 Xterra SE (top of the line because it had fog lights, map lights, and I think rockford fosgate stereo ). Let me tell you people
don't buy these for luxury hahah. But they are VERY VERY capable and have so much ground clearance that it feels like you are driving a monster truck. The 4.0l V6 has a healthy 280 lb/ft and makes more torque than it does HP (VERY useful offroad) and is surprisingly punchy. I would love to buy one of these in the future and offroad in it.
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It's capability is mainly what I went for, a few years ago I got to get in a lot of stock rental 4x4's and run them all over Mexico. The Frontier was always the one you knew you could go anywhere in. That is just with the ALBS system and no rear locker too.

It's ride qualities are better than the 1st gen frontier, but still on the metal box part of the spectrum. All things beat the type181 I drove in high school though so I'm happy. I probably will miss the frontier in the sand though, this truck is 7-8 hundred pounds heavier and a lot of that is on the front end with the 4wd. The 2wd manual frontier was a treat to bomb down a dirt road in.

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It's capability is mainly what I went for, a few years ago I got to get in a lot of stock rental 4x4's and run them all over Mexico. The Frontier was always the one you knew you could go anywhere in. That is just with the ALBS system and no rear locker too.

It's ride qualities are better than the 1st gen frontier, but still on the metal box part of the spectrum. All things beat the type181 I drove in high school though so I'm happy. I probably will miss the frontier in the sand though, this truck is 7-8 hundred pounds heavier and a lot of that is on the front end with the 4wd. The 2wd manual frontier was a treat to bomb down a dirt road in.
I remember ours had terrible road manners in terms of riding on bumps, you could probably feel a quarter on the ground if you ran over it and this was despite having a massive and thick sidewall. But you don't buy these for comfort, you buy them for capability.

Agreed on the extra weight making sand driving worse, especially in the front which will make it more prone to plow, but it's pretty powerful and has big tires so you should be ok.
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I love the XTerra and Frontier. I actually have both! Great trucks.

You can check out my Xterra thread here.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.


P.S. if you want to sell your 1st gen Fronty, let me know.
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I'm not gonna sell it yet. Maybe when I get my vw thing running again. I just love the look of that truck.

I test drove a ton of Xterras and about half as many Frontiers before deciding to buy a clean stock one. I had an offer out on one like yours but the seller pulled out in the 11th hour. He had large Goodyear Duratrac tires , Radflow coil overs with heim joints, a Gobi ladder and drop in rack, plus he did all that smod/timing chain tensioner preventative stuff the 05-09 models need. In the end I'm glad I got something with fewer miles I can do my own thing to rather than buy another person's project... for example I don't really want to listen to heim joints every day.

Alright, question.

Am I crazy or are there only like 3 factory wheel options for these. The pervious gen had the nismo 6 spoke 16's and I love the wheels on my truck which are 17's off of the supercharged model. For the 2nd gen they inexplicably changed the bolt pattern and offered a 4 spoke, 5 and 6 spoke.
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Alright, question.

Am I crazy or are there only like 3 factory wheel options for these. The pervious gen had the nismo 6 spoke 16's and I love the wheels on my truck which are 17's off of the supercharged model. For the 2nd gen they inexplicably changed the bolt pattern and offered a 4 spoke, 5 and 6 spoke.
The 4 thick spokes came on 05-08 SE trim Xterras and LE trim Frontiers. These are 17"

The Nismo trim Frontier and Off-Road trim Xterra came with the 6 spoke 16" wheels.

Then they changed up the designs when they came out with the Pro-4X models. Those will have 16" wheels too.

If you want to off-road, you should stick with 16's. You'll get cheaper A/T tires. I'm stuck with 17's so I'm paying about $20 more per tire.
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I had an 02 frontier and that thing was a beast. It was terrible on gas no matter what you did.
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Yes, I think you posted in the thread I made for my frontier in 2012. Your loosing it.
I think yours was 4wd. I found that in my 2wd v6 manual I could skip fist and 3rd and shift into 5th at 33mph. I would get at least 19 mpg in town... and eventually have to replace the clutch wiping out any savings earned.
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I have always liked the compact Nissan trucks and SUVs. I am considering an Xterra as well, for an off-road rig.
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FYI, if you want a dedicated off-road rig, the XTerra would not be the best choice.

Since the XT is my only SUV, I needed some utility as well. I was cross shopping the XT, FJ Cruiser, and 4Runner. Between the XT and FJ, the XT has much better usability day to day. The seats can fold down and it is just a better all-around SUV.

The later model 4Runners have gotten much larger, and more expensive so it is not directly comparable.

If you're wanting to build an off-road rig, there is a shortage of aftermarket support for the XTerra. There are so many things for FJ Cruisers and 4Runners, and then an ungodly amount for Jeeps. I've probably had to spend at least 40% more to get to where I am with my XTerra than if I had gone with one of the others.
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Always like the XT, but if I were in the market for something that size for 4WD, 3G 4Runner.
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FYI, if you want a dedicated off-road rig, the XTerra would not be the best choice.

Since the XT is my only SUV, I needed some utility as well. I was cross shopping the XT, FJ Cruiser, and 4Runner. Between the XT and FJ, the XT has much better usability day to day. The seats can fold down and it is just a better all-around SUV.

The later model 4Runners have gotten much larger, and more expensive so it is not directly comparable.

If you're wanting to build an off-road rig, there is a shortage of aftermarket support for the XTerra. There are so many things for FJ Cruisers and 4Runners, and then an ungodly amount for Jeeps. I've probably had to spend at least 40% more to get to where I am with my XTerra than if I had gone with one of the others.
No doubt, but I just always liked how those '90s-00s Nissan trucks looked, including the Xterra. And I kinda want something different and a little more affordable. Must be manual though

a 2012-newer JK Unlimited is at the top of my list, since utility is not a huge priority. I can use my girlfriend's FJ for the utility

FJs and 4Runners are more DD-friendly.

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Always like the XT, but if I were in the market for something that size for 4WD, 3G 4Runner.
This too. If only the 4-cyls were more common. Manuals are pretty easy to find.
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FYI, if you want a dedicated off-road rig, the XTerra would not be the best choice.


If you're wanting to build an off-road rig, there is a shortage of aftermarket support for the XTerra. There are so many things for FJ Cruisers and 4Runners, and then an ungodly amount for Jeeps. I've probably had to spend at least 40% more to get to where I am with my XTerra than if I had gone with one of the others.
I kind of figured that was the case, like SBC vs anything ford.
A lot of that stuff is too extreme for me though. Like a SAS with no anti roll bars on the street sounds like a pain. That being said, the Titan front suspension swap looks pretty good for the price, and I may be in the market for either a m226 with a locker or a ARB. With that being the maximum amount I would ever plan to modify the suspension/drive train I think the xterra is a pretty good fit.

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I took the steps off, which makes it easier to get into somehow. Kinda makes it look higher, but the steps are exactly the same height as the frame anyway. Rock sliders look like a pretty simple fab project for the far future.


Also I found some alloys with hopes of making up some of the weight I gain adding bigger tires.



Plasti dip is great. You know immediately if it's been recently applied and is thick enough to take off easily, or if it was applied in a thin layer 3 years ago and will be a complete shit show. This is the latter.

Still trying to decide if I want an at like the ko2 or something more aggressive like generals new x3.

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I had a 2011 PRO-4X for a short while, I really liked it....great off road and the road manners weren't horrible. But a drastic change in my work commute ended that party early. Sometimes I miss it, but I feel like Nissan could have done a better job updating it over the years. Maybe it would still be around...

Good luck with it!
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I installed one of those new fangled android auto enabled radios. Works kinda nice, doesn't give email notifications though which is frustrating if you do any business at all. Also it has a god damned knob. What they hell happened to knobs and buttons?


That gave me an excuse to use one of the full set of radio punches I bought at a yard sale like 5 years ago. One of those things you spend an hour on before you find that you can buy a better version on amazon for almost nothing.

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magic, the pioneers are friction fit so I epoxied them into the adapter for good measure. Nissan interiors don't need any help rattling.


Then, some tires that nearly don't fit. Basically 33's. They add a few pounds, but it's not as terrible it could be since I switched to some aluminum wheels.






I think with that I'll be done till I go to Mexico a few times and see if it's lacking in some performance metric.
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I had a 2011 PRO-4X for a short while, I really liked it....great off road and the road manners weren't horrible. But a drastic change in my work commute ended that party early. Sometimes I miss it, but I feel like Nissan could have done a better job updating it over the years. Maybe it would still be around...

Good luck with it!
What do you mean, don't all cars have a 10-12 year cycle?

Seriously, I'm lucky I like old technology because these things, and the now 12 year old Frontier are time machines.
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Those tires are a nice upgrade! Definitely adds some aggressive look to it.
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Too late, took a turn at 6mph this morning and 3 people died.​
some people like to quip about how they don't need to wear a seat belt in their car nor wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle also. well, a few less people than did yesterday anyway...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...-31-suvs_x.htm
NHTSA's rollover ratings derive from a calculation based on the distance between a vehicle's wheels and the height of its center of gravity. NHTSA says the formula, known as the static stability factor, accurately predicts the chances of a rollover in a single-vehicle crash. NHTSA said that of the 93 SUV models it has tested for 2006, 39 earned a four-star grade, with the remainder garnering three stars. The worst performer, the four-wheel-drive version of the Nissan Xterra, was estimated to have a 25% rollover risk.
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What do you mean, don't all cars have a 10-12 year cycle?

Seriously, I'm lucky I like old technology because these things, and the now 12 year old Frontier are time machines.
What I am saying is that maybe if Nissan made an effort, it could still be around competing with the 4runner and Wrangler. It was a great value compared to both of them, I got my PRO-4X in 2011 fully loaded for 28k out the door. A similarly equipped wrangler/4runner was close to 40k...
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some people like to quip about how they don't need to wear a seat belt in their car nor wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle also. well, a few less people than did yesterday anyway...

Test shows SUV rollovers less likely, but some experts question testing - USATODAY.com
You're right I apologies for my benighted remarks I've made about safety. After reading that article I have decided to sell the Xterra and find a Chrysler Pacifica.
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This is almost not a mod, but I added a small pistol safe. The steel cable liberty hd90 I had in my frontier was cut out by a guy with small rusty Chinese wire cutters so I really wanted something I could bolt in. I went with this Titan safe the was entirely too expensive, but is the only one with a door that swings out the way I want. I also didn't want to install a console vault and lose that storage space.

The unit itself has a great lock, but I think I could pry part of the case open. When I go to paint the frame I may add some 1/8 inch steel to the locking tab for reinforcement. It says made in the usa all over it. If you are looking for something similar v-line has a range of them that are cheaper, but the doors swing down instead of to the side.

Basically I have made a couple bars to bolt it to the seat frame, You can't get to all the bolts without taking the seat out. It should take somebody a few minutes with proper tools and they will still to walk down the with either a seat or a bunch of steel frame bits. That's a upgrade from the 10-20 seconds I got out of the last one.

view from the outside, at eye level you can't even see that much. The Seat is all the way back here.


I didn't really modify anything and it can all be returned back to stock. To plug in the Air bag and seat sensor you just have to move the seat forward to access the connectors.
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Nice work, how big of a pistol do you think it would hold? That PPS looks like it takes most of the available width. Would a compact double stack G19/P320 sized pistol fit?
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It just looks that way because of the angle I took it at. My full size CZ75 fits fine. You can also adjust the holster bot in it's size and where it's mounted on the sliding carriage. Probably can't put a glock model 40 in it though.
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Mine are a P320C & a KelTec P11, the P11 would be no problem & is the only one that gets left in the truck with any regularity (business dress + pocket carry).
The P320 is IWB unless I run into a carry-prohibited place. This looks like a good solution, over a console vault (would lose the sliding tray in the console) or just tossing it loose into the console.
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That little frontier truck is great. Good to hear you are not selling it


it reminds of my Nissan Hard Body I had back in the day. Truly tough, no frills, machines
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You should still probably shop around and see what fits your car/gun . I don't mind messing with things to get them right, but I've done a lot of little tweaking to get this thing to stop rattling (with exception to the simplex lock which will always rattle) and make sure the mounting system works as advertised. It mounts with 4 slide in tabs and a locking bar. You should be able to take the bar out with the safe open and remove the whole thing from the car, but all the tabs were bent too tightly and the bar needed to be filed to get that to work correctly. I'm all for stuff made in America, but that crap should all be sorted out in something that is 100 dollars more than the competition. Same with the locking tab. For this price it should be reinforced in some way. The liberty safe I had was great in those respects. It was just too easy to cut loose and mounting it with bolts while being able to open it meant putting in foot well somewhere.

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Mine are a P320C & a KelTec P11, the P11 would be no problem & is the only one that gets left in the truck with any regularity (business dress + pocket carry).
The P320 is IWB unless I run into a carry-prohibited place. This looks like a good solution, over a console vault (would lose the sliding tray in the console) or just tossing it loose into the console.

It is a great truck but now that I've spent some time away from it only driving it once a week I think I'm getting ready to sell it, but I need to fix my 56 f-100 up as a spare car first. Owning German cars has taught me to always have a back up strategy.

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That little frontier truck is great. Good to hear you are not selling it


it reminds of my Nissan Hard Body I had back in the day. Truly tough, no frills, machines

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I decided to do some easy maintinance like replacing the spark plugs and V6's are hateful engineering abortions so this is apparently a good time to add a I.M.S.


This is somehow still easier than replacing the #6 spark plug on the VG33







I don't quite know what to think of the spacer yet. Everybody swears by them, there are dyno numbers are floating around, and it's easy to install for the claimed improvement. Apparently I'm not qualified to talk about it's performance until I let the computer adjust for 200 miles, but I have to wonder why it wasn't part of the intake manifold design in the first place. This is a truck only intake and all of the trucks Nissan sells with the engine have plenty of space for the added length.

Oh and I get to all that again because the starboard side valve cover spark plug seal is leaking. Which calls for a new valve cover.
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The intake manifold spacer really does work. I have a 2007 Xterra and 2007 Frontier, which have identical engines, etc. The Xterra has the IMS and the Frontier does not.

The Xterra tows my boat better from a low-range power standpoint (but the truck is overall better because of its longer wheelbase). I've had the IMS on for about two years with the Xterra. It is just a snappier response all around. I have not installed it in the Frontier yet because I haven't done the truck's spark plugs.
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Thanks for the feed back. It's good to know that in a side by side comparison it does still hold up. The main reason I splurged on it was for what you and others said about towing. This truck is way better than the 1st gen frontier, but you can still tell there is a dead spot when you have some weight attached.
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It now looks beefy.
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Yeah, initially I was like, meh...
but now I'm like wow, this guy gets it...quite the upgrade!

I had a 2002 Frontier crew cab NON SC and man did I regret not getting the extra power. Terrible gas mileage coming from sub 100hp honda manuals prior to that.
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