cu2wagon

Why you always lyin'?

kurtatx

Eat a big fat pile of dicks with the special white sauce

cu2wagon

okay, yes... Now that *is* believable.

Yumcha

I would like it more if it had a yoke steering wheel.

Sarlacc

I need to get mine washed. Badly. It’s been about a month.

thoiboi

spoiler alert: it was his wife

SamDoe1

Don't be a yokel, it's as easy as taking a sawzall to the wheel.

Same. It's dirty AF after the road trip. Now that it's cold here I need to find a place to wash it since I can't at home.

Lord Elon blessed the car himself.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

just stumbled into a Karma dealership...
what a good lookin car.

kurtatx

Oh, the Y is a dumpster fire right now. Not to mention it looks like my wife opened the trunk into something. TBH, a little part of the trunk is bent but that's going to cost like $1.4 million because Tesla. We're just going to live with it.

cu2wagon

Be a real shame if one of those batteries were to fail and propagate to all the rest. A real shame.

kurtatx

Let's just agree to wait for Comfy to get one for that to happen

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Ew.

kurtatx

Need your opinion: I'm in the early stages of swapping my Model 3 for something more versatile.

I put on about 8K miles a year (the Model Y is our primary work horse when it comes to driving)

Let's say I theoretically went with the BMW X3 (need a backup dog car)

Option 1: Used (2018 BMW X3 xDrive30i Sports Activity Vehicle)
https://www.bmwofaustin.com/inventor...r9c55jlc80921/
MILEAGE: 42,065
PRICE: $36,271

Option 2: New (2022 BMW X3 sDrive30i)
https://www.bmwofsouthaustin.com/new...vdp-recentCars
PRICE: $47,990

Option 3: Wild Card (2019 BMW X3 M40i SAV)
https://www.bmwofaustin.com/inventor...s3c59k0z06777/
MILEAGE: 28,000
PRICE: 49,496

There's no smart money in this market, but part of me thinks the new model may actually be the best money at this time. The allure of the I6 is pretty strong, but I'm pretty nervous about owning a 4 year old BMW.

Thoughts? Anything else y'all recommend?

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

I wouldn't buy used - that market is a bubble just waiting to pop. If you can get the new one at MSRP, that would be my go to. But in my experience (and the main reason I decided to order a Tesla) is that many dealers have been advertising MSRP but toss on a market adjustment or irremovable accessories once you get to negotiating, so it's going to be a battle.

How often are you taking dogs places in your car?

kurtatx

Every day. Let me give you some background

1. I bought the Model 3 in 2020 as a lease. At the time, you couldn't buy out the lease but you COULD sell it to dealers as needed. In October 2021, Tesla stopped allowing us to sell our cars to a dealer and demand we give them the car back at the end of the lease. Here's the rub: Tesla is quoting me a return value of about $8k less than what the car is worth. At this point, I'm basically paying for depreciation which doesn't exist. While I understood Tesla wouldn't let me buy out the car, I was not aware Tesla wouldn't let me sell it to a dealer (in fact, at the time of purchase, Tesla WAS letting me sell to the dealer. It appears that policy has changed.
2. Our Model Y has been in the shop a number of times for minor body work. In the meantime, I have basically been unable to take my 3 year old German shepherd anywhere. I can put him in the Model 3, but it is not a good or safe experience (He's a big boy - about 80 lbs).
3. I had a horrible experience last time I road tripped my Tesla. The fact is, they are crap for basically anything going wrong on a road trip.

Basically, I want to get equity in my car and I want to be able to have one EV and one gas car.

While I'm literally throwing money away on my Model 3, you bring up a good point. It is possible based on the current market this is still the best option for me but yeah, I'm just kind of over the 2 EV life for the moment.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

I'm not trying to talk you out of selling the 3. IMO if you can get a new car at MSRP and get top dollar for your current car, it's a no-brainer.

We currently have a CR-V and my Golf (while we await the model 3). My Goldendoodle is 100lbs and he goes into the back seat of the Golf without issue if I need to take him somewhere. That's why I was wondering why you needed to get something larger as a backup dog car - but I understand wanting a road trip car that can take him as well.

The latest gen X3 is a great crossover. The M40 would obviously be a bit more fun but you cannot go wrong with the 30i.

kurtatx

If I can sell the 3, I probably do it, but I don't believe I can.

The more I think about it, the more I want to wait. prices are just pretty silly.

Sarlacc

I had a 2017 and while I liked it I would go with the newer body/interior. And coming from a Tesla I’d only want the X3 M40

butnyoull have to drive them and see.

00TL-P3.2

I'm in the go for the new one camp too, as a non-BMW guy (would take a GLC instead ).
Lease again, if the numbers are good?

kurtatx

Stupid question: what's the benefit of leasing anymore?

pttl

None. Especially these days with the way they figure residual value.

Yumcha

You tell me.

The in me has always gone with the rule-of-thumb to never lease...then again, I understand that I keep my cars for 8+ years at least. So, if you're the type that likes to have a new minty car every year or so, yeah, I guess leasing is the way to go?

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

I've leased a vehicle once. It was dumb. Unless you have a business where you can write it off and upgrade every 2-3 years, (and even then, it's probably best to buy) it's pointless.

kurtatx

Oh yeah, by the way on this. I have 3 dogs. 80 lb GSD, 90 lb Great Pyrenees, 50 lb mutt. So yeah, it can be rough. They can't all go in my Model 3

cu2wagon

You need a POS dog rig.

Like and old Element or 1G Odyssey or something.

00TL-P3.2

Nah, gotta go full @rockstar143 & got you an older GM shitbox Burban/Tahoe.

SamDoe1

You might want to consider something bigger than the X3 if you want to comfortably take all of those around... Our 75lb golden retriever fits into my Tesla just fine alongside my daughter but there's no way all of those would be getting in the car at the same time.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Can confirm. If you're looking to travel with 220lbs worth of dogs, the X3 isn't for you. Around town isn't bad, but...

Honestly if you're just looking for a roadtrip car, it may be less expensive to simply rent an SUV or van for those trips.

Yumcha

Wagon is too small, right?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

right answer. Put the dogs down and get a 911 Cab.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Element is literally perfect in every way.

GM life isn't for everyone. There are ladies out there, you know.

kurtatx

Probably. It's not a primary dog vehicle.

kurtatx

Poor Enzo

Yumcha

K...then, you should have a look just to be sure? Cuz, a wagon/avant would be tits.

thoiboi

Hey @Yumcha do you like wagons or something? You seem to mention them a lot

Midnight Mystery

I did not know that car manufacturers can force you to return your lease without a purchase option. That just seems like a bad business practice to me and leaves a sour taste in my mouth for the brand.

I agree, get you a side beater to bring your dog around in as others recommend. Hmmm. Maybe a 3G 4Runner? Because that old shit is still fire!

Yumcha

Nooooooo....nahhhhh...

SamDoe1

It's a term of purchase that they disclosed at buying so it's not like it's a surprise. In any normal time this isn't really a big deal but, right now, when you can get way more on the used market than the residual value it really sucks.

Yumcha

Personally, I dunno why Kurt is leaving the realm of Teslaness. He won't be hip, cool, happenin'...and may lose the BFF status with Stunna et al.

FFS.

kurtatx

Ultimately, I live to please:
1) my wife
2) Yummy
3) Stunna
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