Farewell Acura
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Did I ever bash on the 4G TL car itself? I can't look past the abomination. That was the biggest reason why everyone hated it. Nobody really bashed on the car's quality or driveability because it didn't matter. LOL
You have to understand that some people like or dislike the design. You learn to accept that fact before throwing personal shit to others like a 12 yrs old.
TLX replaced TL and TSX. That's one of many reasons why it feels like a downgrade. I don't know how bad that car is selling because I simply have zero interest in that car.
It still is a step in the right direction from 4G TL in terms of the looks. The 4G TL was one of the worst looking car ever for me.
You have to understand that some people like or dislike the design. You learn to accept that fact before throwing personal shit to others like a 12 yrs old.
TLX replaced TL and TSX. That's one of many reasons why it feels like a downgrade. I don't know how bad that car is selling because I simply have zero interest in that car.
It still is a step in the right direction from 4G TL in terms of the looks. The 4G TL was one of the worst looking car ever for me.
You made it personal, I do not care I do not even own it anymore.
....why everyone hated it....
Did you run a poll where you verified that "everyone hates the TL??
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I hate the design. That's what I said.
You apprantly like saying this, but "it's my personal opinion." Learn to deal with it instead of getting all defensive and trying to justify every post that you don't like.
And yes, you DO care. Man up.
You apprantly like saying this, but "it's my personal opinion." Learn to deal with it instead of getting all defensive and trying to justify every post that you don't like.
And yes, you DO care. Man up.
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Adults do hate cars.
I hate Corolla, Prius, and Camry because they annoy me on a personal level.
i dont hate 4G TL as I have no reason to but i think its exterior is ugly and laughable.
and i have yet to meet a person in real life who thought 4G TL was good looking including close friends who work for Acura. Sad isn't it.
I hate Corolla, Prius, and Camry because they annoy me on a personal level.
i dont hate 4G TL as I have no reason to but i think its exterior is ugly and laughable.
and i have yet to meet a person in real life who thought 4G TL was good looking including close friends who work for Acura. Sad isn't it.
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I would "hate" a car that would give me constant mechanical problems like a Chrysler model I owned over 15 years ago....
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Wow you guys are tearing the 4G TL to shreds haha. Personally I own one and while I agree it's a hate it or love it design if you toss a set of wheels on , put the oem lip kit on, and lower it a tad it really transforms the car. 
I think the TLX also looks pretty lame until you take those same steps.
I think the TLX also looks pretty lame until you take those same steps.
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I have seen some good looking modified 4G TL in person and yes it does have potentials.
But that is not relevant because with enough $$, you can make any car look good just as you can make any car go fast.
But that is not relevant because with enough $$, you can make any car look good just as you can make any car go fast.
Wow you guys are tearing the 4G TL to shreds haha. Personally I own one and while I agree it's a hate it or love it design if you toss a set of wheels on , put the oem lip kit on, and lower it a tad it really transforms the car.
I think the TLX also looks pretty lame until you take those same steps.
I think the TLX also looks pretty lame until you take those same steps.
I've only seen like one or two 4G's where I was like, wow, that isn't too bad. But even modded they still look weird. And lowering seems to make them look even more bloated for some reason. Anyway, just my opinion. I still like to see some modded ones though just to see what people are doing to "fix" them...
I think the 4G is not a bad looking car overall once it has the RonJon front grill on there.
Aero Kit + RonJon + Drop + wheels goes a long way with this car.
Untouched / modified? I'll pass.
Aero Kit + RonJon + Drop + wheels goes a long way with this car.
Untouched / modified? I'll pass.
I'm certainly not trying to nut hug RonJon's products, but it's really how the 4G should have came from factory - Flows so much nicer than the beak.
Now that we're completely off-topic, nice GS350 OP! Any modding plans for it?
Now that we're completely off-topic, nice GS350 OP! Any modding plans for it?
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Sure, but that can be said for pretty much any car on the road. It takes quite a bit of money for all of those parts to spruce up what is otherwise an abomination to the senses.
Think how much gangster the OPs Lexus would look with an aero kit, grill change, drop and wheels. I'm sure it would look even sexier!!
Edit: gawdammit, I just saw the post above
Think how much gangster the OPs Lexus would look with an aero kit, grill change, drop and wheels. I'm sure it would look even sexier!!
Edit: gawdammit, I just saw the post above
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I plan on having the windows tinted for sure. debating whether if I should paint the white horizontal fascia on mid section of the grille black and also paint the roof black to give the optical illusion that there's a panoramic roof. Not sure how those two things work out on the lease return.
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I plan on having the windows tinted for sure. debating whether if I should paint the white horizontal fascia on mid section of the grille black and also paint the roof black to give the optical illusion that there's a panoramic roof. Not sure how those two things work out on the lease return.
If you want the black roof look, Wrap is better, so you can remove it when you return the car.
This is my friend's GS. He has a front lip/wheels/air suspension.
Like oonowindoo, if you want to black out a certain part on the car, just wrap it. It's cheap and should last for the lease period. You can just take it off before you return.
If you are interested, I would just do some simple mods like front lip/springs for 1" drop/wheels. It would make your car a head turner.
Like oonowindoo, if you want to black out a certain part on the car, just wrap it. It's cheap and should last for the lease period. You can just take it off before you return.
If you are interested, I would just do some simple mods like front lip/springs for 1" drop/wheels. It would make your car a head turner.
This is my friend's GS. He has a front lip/wheels/air suspension.
Like oonowindoo, if you want to black out a certain part on the car, just wrap it. It's cheap and should last for the lease period. You can just take it off before you return.
If you are interested, I would just do some simple mods like front lip/springs for 1" drop/wheels. It would make your car a head turner.
Like oonowindoo, if you want to black out a certain part on the car, just wrap it. It's cheap and should last for the lease period. You can just take it off before you return.
If you are interested, I would just do some simple mods like front lip/springs for 1" drop/wheels. It would make your car a head turner.
Yeah, that car looks very mean in person. Nothing much done to it too. Lexus designed it very well.
I'm not 100% sure on the GS parts, but some quality spring set would be around $300. The installation at the shop can be anywhere from $150-350. I'll ask my friend to recommend something.
I'm not 100% sure on the GS parts, but some quality spring set would be around $300. The installation at the shop can be anywhere from $150-350. I'll ask my friend to recommend something.
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You realize, of course, that your "real life" observation is entirely anecdotal and biased by the fact that it is far more likely that a person who likes the styling is going to tell you so, than it is someone who hates will tell you directly, right? Your observation is simply a product of basic human nature - we tend to be more free (in person) with our compliments than our criticisms.
Human nature suggests that people are more critical and free with negative criticisms than with positive compliments. The old adage that people are 10 times more likely to complain than compliment holds merit in nearly all facets of life. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/yo...ones.html?_r=0
Look here on Acurazine as case in point. Mention anything in Cartalk regarding the 4G TL and suddenly there is an onslaught of negativity and criticism. Check out some of the health forums; members there are quick to criticize their health care providers, attacking and accusing them, for usually misunderstood reasons. Porsche's 996 is still criticized for its headlamp styling. Most recent Superbowl? Pete Carroll ridiculed even till today for the last throwing play that resulted in an interception.
Like it or not (at Cartalk it's a blatant not) the 4G TL has a polarizing design that seems to get attention on both sides, positive and negative. But.... this post, along with the 4G TL and its owners, will likely get criticized and attacked, right? Or will it garner compliments as you suggest?
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Yes the difference is people like to talk shit about you behind your back with others.
But most of them will not do it in front of you.
Vs.
People will compliment you in person but rarely say nice things behind your back.
If you think human as a whole is any different... then you are just too innocent.
We are different when we are online behind the safety net of computers. The REAL human nature comes out and we as human being, suck!
But most of them will not do it in front of you.
Vs.
People will compliment you in person but rarely say nice things behind your back.
If you think human as a whole is any different... then you are just too innocent.
We are different when we are online behind the safety net of computers. The REAL human nature comes out and we as human being, suck!
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I disagree.
Human nature suggests that people are more critical and free with negative criticisms than with positive compliments. The old adage that people are 10 times more likely to complain than compliment holds merit in nearly all facets of life. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/yo...ones.html?_r=0
Look here on Acurazine as case in point. Mention anything in Cartalk regarding the 4G TL and suddenly there is an onslaught of negativity and criticism. Check out some of the health forums; members there are quick to criticize their health care providers, attacking and accusing them, for usually misunderstood reasons. Porsche's 996 is still criticized for its headlamp styling. Most recent Superbowl? Pete Carroll ridiculed even till today for the last throwing play that resulted in an interception.
Like it or not (at Cartalk it's a blatant not) the 4G TL has a polarizing design that seems to get attention on both sides, positive and negative. But.... this post, along with the 4G TL and its owners, will likely get criticized and attacked, right? Or will it garner compliments as you suggest?
Human nature suggests that people are more critical and free with negative criticisms than with positive compliments. The old adage that people are 10 times more likely to complain than compliment holds merit in nearly all facets of life. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/yo...ones.html?_r=0
Look here on Acurazine as case in point. Mention anything in Cartalk regarding the 4G TL and suddenly there is an onslaught of negativity and criticism. Check out some of the health forums; members there are quick to criticize their health care providers, attacking and accusing them, for usually misunderstood reasons. Porsche's 996 is still criticized for its headlamp styling. Most recent Superbowl? Pete Carroll ridiculed even till today for the last throwing play that resulted in an interception.
Like it or not (at Cartalk it's a blatant not) the 4G TL has a polarizing design that seems to get attention on both sides, positive and negative. But.... this post, along with the 4G TL and its owners, will likely get criticized and attacked, right? Or will it garner compliments as you suggest?
Yes the difference is people like to talk shit about you behind your back with others.
But most of them will not do it in front of you.
Vs.
People will compliment you in person but rarely say nice things behind your back.
If you think human as a whole is any different... then you are just too innocent.
But most of them will not do it in front of you.
Vs.
People will compliment you in person but rarely say nice things behind your back.
If you think human as a whole is any different... then you are just too innocent.