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Old 06-29-2005, 10:19 AM
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Before all you Acura TL fans flame me, I just wanted to say that I still think the Acura is an Acura (reliablity, etc.) and a Dodge is still a Dodge. Not to knock Dodge or anything, I just think of Acura as a higher end brand.

With all that said, I test drove the Dodge Charger 5.7L V8 R/T. One thing is for sure, the power is much better then the Acura. The engine comes in at 340 hp. They will be releasing the RXT, I think that is the model, with a 6.1L V8 at 425 horsepower. Anyways, the ride wasn't bad at all. The interior doesn't come close to the Acura, but for an American car it isn't that bad. The interior room seemed to be more then the TL, I don't have exact numbers, but that my perspective. The car also feels much bigger then the TL, which I didn't like. The cost of the car is actually the same if not more then a TL. The RWD is excellent with that much horsepower.

If the Dodge Charger wasn't priced were the TL is then I would definitely investigate further. Still the TL is the better vehicle IMO. My wife said it perfectly, when she knows someone drives an Acura, she thinks ok, they are doing pretty good in life, when they drive a Dodge, it is just a Dodge. Again this isn't to knock anyone that has a Dodge, but there is a difference. The best part of the Charger was the power and the RWD, that is were it ends.
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Before all you Acura TL fans flame me, I just wanted to say that I still think the Acura is an Acura (reliablity, etc.) and a Dodge is still a Dodge. .
Reliability?

I'll bet the Mecedes-Benz 5 speed auto in the Charger >> Acura TL's 5A
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Originally Posted by quantmonkey
Reliability?

I'll bet the Mecedes-Benz 5 speed auto in the Charger >> Acura TL's 5A
I bet the Charger doesn't come in a 6M. Screw auto.
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Originally Posted by quantmonkey
Reliability?

I'll bet the Mecedes-Benz 5 speed auto in the Charger >> Acura TL's 5A

will be nice to know your transmission will last you longer than the TL as every other part of your car falls apart at the seams

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Anyone can feather the clutch, change gears, rev match, double clutch and heel and toe downshift, but it takes a REALLY skilled driver to drive an automatic car.
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It the same as the 300C, & Maguum RT with a different body & interior. That RXT version will be the same as a 300C SRT. I just don't get why DC does this?
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
Anyone can feather the clutch, change gears, rev match, double clutch and heel and toe downshift, but it takes a REALLY skilled driver to drive an automatic car.
It takes an even more skilled driver to keep the TL's original 5A intact for more than 100,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by quantmonkey
It takes an even more skilled driver to keep the TL's original 5A intact for more than 100,000 miles.
Only women buy 5ATs, so I wouldn't be worried about that
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Only women buy 5ATs, so I wouldn't be worried about that
Let's not forget all the driving skill required to manage all that torque steer and the understeer going around corners!! Or drifiting by using the emergency brake.
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i like it, other then the fact it's hideous!
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I like the fact that the base 250hp V6 comes at a low price. The Magnum base is the weak 190 and if you want the 250hp engine you have to get the SXT. As far as getting the V8 for $30k, I'd rather get a GTO. Of course the GTO has only 2 damn doors. GM needs to bring over the Holden Commodore SV6 and SV8.
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i may just have to test drive one
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Originally Posted by quantmonkey
It takes an even more skilled driver to keep the TL's original 5A intact for more than 100,000 miles.
I haven't heard many complaints about the 3rd gen...
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Originally Posted by Doom878
I like the fact that the base 250hp V6 comes at a low price. The Magnum base is the weak 190 and if you want the 250hp engine you have to get the SXT. As far as getting the V8 for $30k, I'd rather get a GTO. Of course the GTO has only 2 damn doors. GM needs to bring over the Holden Commodore SV6 and SV8.


The V8 is way too expensive. For the (lack of) interior goodies, I couldn't justify it.
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I haven't heard many complaints about the 3rd gen...
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Originally Posted by Doom878
I like the fact that the base 250hp V6 comes at a low price. The Magnum base is the weak 190 and if you want the 250hp engine you have to get the SXT. As far as getting the V8 for $30k, I'd rather get a GTO. Of course the GTO has only 2 damn doors. GM needs to bring over the Holden Commodore SV6 and SV8.

but the LS ain't no Hemi
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Originally Posted by hank1105
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Before all you Acura TL fans flame me, I just wanted to say that I still think the Acura is an Acura (reliablity, etc.) and a Dodge is still a Dodge. Not to knock Dodge or anything, I just think of Acura as a higher end brand.

With all that said, I test drove the Dodge Charger 5.7L V8 R/T. One thing is for sure, the power is much better then the Acura. The engine comes in at 340 hp. They will be releasing the RXT, I think that is the model, with a 6.1L V8 at 425 horsepower. Anyways, the ride wasn't bad at all. The interior doesn't come close to the Acura, but for an American car it isn't that bad. The interior room seemed to be more then the TL, I don't have exact numbers, but that my perspective. The car also feels much bigger then the TL, which I didn't like. The cost of the car is actually the same if not more then a TL. The RWD is excellent with that much horsepower.

If the Dodge Charger wasn't priced were the TL is then I would definitely investigate further. Still the TL is the better vehicle IMO. My wife said it perfectly, when she knows someone drives an Acura, she thinks ok, they are doing pretty good in life, when they drive a Dodge, it is just a Dodge. Again this isn't to knock anyone that has a Dodge, but there is a difference. The best part of the Charger was the power and the RWD, that is were it ends.
Yes, but,,,,,,,,,,,,









it's a DODGE!!
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a lady in my building has one...and that thing is butt ugly. it'll take a little bit to make me stomach looking at it. but you can't argue with 340hp and RWD
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Originally Posted by CLpower
i like it, other then the fact it's hideous!
I saw one on the road the other day...simply atrocious...it looks far worse in person.
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I think it'll grow on you like the Magnum.
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I actually like the new Charger especially the R/T Hemi.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
I think it'll grow on you like the Magnum.
I thought the Magnum was pretty cool looking from the start and I've enjoyed the 300c for the most part...there's just something not quite right about the Charger (besides having too many doors).
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HOLY SHIT I just saw a black R/T. First time I saw one. Thing is nice.
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none the less, the Charger has its own unique style and the Hemi to back it up with!
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i'll TL over charger anyday
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Dodge Charger…. Not interested.
Nice engine, but too many doors on the side and not enough PEDALS on the floor.
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Just plain ugly. I don't care if it does 12's out of the box, it is one of the ugliest cars out right now.
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Originally Posted by hank1105
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Before all you Acura TL fans flame me, I just wanted to say that I still think the Acura is an Acura (reliablity, etc.) and a Dodge is still a Dodge. Not to knock Dodge or anything, I just think of Acura as a higher end brand.

With all that said, I test drove the Dodge Charger 5.7L V8 R/T. One thing is for sure, the power is much better then the Acura. The engine comes in at 340 hp. They will be releasing the RXT, I think that is the model, with a 6.1L V8 at 425 horsepower. Anyways, the ride wasn't bad at all. The interior doesn't come close to the Acura, but for an American car it isn't that bad. The interior room seemed to be more then the TL, I don't have exact numbers, but that my perspective. The car also feels much bigger then the TL, which I didn't like. The cost of the car is actually the same if not more then a TL. The RWD is excellent with that much horsepower.

If the Dodge Charger wasn't priced were the TL is then I would definitely investigate further. Still the TL is the better vehicle IMO. My wife said it perfectly, when she knows someone drives an Acura, she thinks ok, they are doing pretty good in life, when they drive a Dodge, it is just a Dodge. Again this isn't to knock anyone that has a Dodge, but there is a difference. The best part of the Charger was the power and the RWD, that is were it ends.
I test drove a Charger R/T the other day and I will say that the car will haul ass when you get on it. There seems to be power everywhere with this car and will get you into trouble quickly if you're not paying attention to where cops may be hiding at.

While the front of the body looks good when you get to the back of it you end up getting depressed. And the interior is traditional Dodge/Chrysler. Cheap materials that LOOK like they have been snapped on. Chrysler/Dodge people please listen, stop using the cheap materials, it annoys me the hell outta me because this is the third vehicle in a row that initially sparked my interest, only to end up depressing me because of the crappy interior. I'll hang on to my TL, thank you!
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It seems that it costs so much to make a decent domestic with a nice interior. Domestics rarely have a nice interior that are affordable. Remember guys. For these domestics to be affordable they gotta cut costs somewhere.
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The SRT-8 Charger is going to awesome, even the R/T is hot.

Mid $30k's for the SRT-8= Bargain.

That's what I figure since the SRT-8 Magnum bases at $37,995.

Why would I want a TL 6spd? Torque steer central, no thank you.
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My wife said it perfectly, when she knows someone drives an Acura, she thinks ok, they are doing pretty good in life, when they drive a Dodge, it is just a Dodge. .
That is plain ignorance.
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
The SRT-8 Charger is going to awesome, even the R/T is hot.

Mid $30k's for the SRT-8= Bargain.

That's what I figure since the SRT-8 Magnum bases at $37,995.

Why would I want a TL 6spd? Torque steer central, no thank you.
I think these guys want Acura reliability and luxury and don't care for too much speed. Is the SRT-8 faster than the GTO?
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Is the SRT-8 faster than the GTO?
The GTO is probably a few ticks quicker, but the Charger SRT-8 should be good for 4.9-5.0sec 0-60 runs (give or take).
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i'll TL over charger anyday
if I want power I'll get the vette
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The GTO might be better bang for the buck but I'd have to test both cars. At least the Charger has 4 doors.
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Who cares about 0-60 anyway? How many times do you find yourself flooring it 0-60 during daily commutes? The one second that the charger would have on the Acura does not outweigh the bad things.

I would rather have an Acura with torque steer than a plastic POS on steriods any day. And talking about torque steer and handling, it must be really fun whipping a 4000+ lbs car around corners...

Thanks Dodge, but there's more to owning a car than straight line performance. Give me a 6 speed TL with Navi.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
It seems that it costs so much to make a decent domestic with a nice interior. Domestics rarely have a nice interior that are affordable...
The GTO has an ok interior and is pretty affordable.
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Originally Posted by quantmonkey
The GTO has an ok interior and is pretty affordable.
The GTO is a no option 3,800 lb tank.


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