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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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What coils are you gonna go with. I would pick the kw variant 3 personally.

It makes sense putting a v8 in it if it is a competition drift car. In a drift car all that matters is low end torque to break the rear loose.

Otherwise I would not want a v8. Too much weight and raises the center of gravity, plus throws off the balance.

The whole design of this car is based on putting a flat four as low and far back as possible. If you throw in a v8 you are defeating alot of the design aspects of the car.
brian....I have never seen a better composed post on Azine....

very very very well written and honestly it makes a lottt of sense....specially if you saw - Fast and the Furious - Tokyo Drift the night before....
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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What coils are you gonna go with. I would pick the kw variant 3 personally.

It makes sense putting a v8 in it if it is a competition drift car. In a drift car all that matters is low end torque to break the rear loose.

Otherwise I would not want a v8. Too much weight and raises the center of gravity, plus throws off the balance.

The whole design of this car is based on putting a flat four as low and far back as possible. If you throw in a v8 you are defeating alot of the design aspects of the car.
Im getting Fortune Auto coilovers. Since I'm helping them with the development, theyre giving me a deal on them that I really can't pass up. Theyre just my "for now" coils. I would love a set of KWs, but dont have the street price of $2100 ($2500 MSRP) burning a hole in my pocket. When I do end up going with something a bit higher end, it will most likely be a set of custom built Konis.

Re: the engine - I agree, it is heavy. But the IS-F powered 86 has firewall modifications that push the engine pretty far back. Obviously, its not something Im doing, but I can dream, right?

Im not doing anything crazy to the engine for another 2-3 years. I have a lifetime engine warranty through the dealer I purchased the car from, and I'd at least like to keep it for the first 3 years or so, or until its paid off.

Once thats done, Ill build the FA up for boost. But thats still tentative. If there is another car on the market that seems like a better chassis to work with, Ill obviously trade up - which is another reason Im leaning towards just bolt ons. I shot myself in the foot with all the work done to the CL, Im not making that mistake again.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:39 PM
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I shot myself in the foot with all the work done to the CL, Im not making that mistake again.
please explain...am curious....
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Its simple. Too much money into a car that is worthless. Parting out is a pain in the ass. Ill lose WAY too much money trading in or selling outright....
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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^^^ how much HP is the 3.6L stroker motor good for ??? and will it run on my car ???

if yes, you have a buyer if you part out

if the MT fits the TL as well, will take that too
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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No, I want the CL
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Its simple. Too much money into a car that is worthless. Parting out is a pain in the ass. Ill lose WAY too much money trading in or selling outright....
i know exactly what you mean. i was able to get back a nice sizeable chunk after parting out the CL though. still have a few pieces left with some buyers lined up.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Figured as much. Its from JDM-land, so naturally, it has the JDM tax added on.
talk about your JDM mods! "Yeah bro I got that JDM tax yo."


As for the V8, I totally agree Brian, V8 swaps are waaaaay too impractical to do for someone who isn't trying to professionally drift or something of that matter. Plus they are ridiculously pricey, really the only time it's "cheap" is when you put an LS into an S chassis because you could pick up both for less than 1500 if you don't mind condition.
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Its simple. Too much money into a car that is worthless. Parting out is a pain in the ass. Ill lose WAY too much money trading in or selling outright....
*Ahem*

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No, I want the CL
STFU you're CLtotheTL not TLtotheCL, who is a tool as we all know
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Yeah, well, that's just your opinion man.

I can change my username if I want BISH!
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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You guys crack me up.

Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ how much HP is the 3.6L stroker motor good for ??? and will it run on my car ???

if yes, you have a buyer if you part out

if the MT fits the TL as well, will take that too


The tranny is actually from a '06 TL (I had to replace mine). The block will fit the 3G, but the heads are different. You'll need A3/A8 heads, unless you want to run an actual header instead of PCDs. But I dont know what sort of can of worms youll get into when it comes to tuning in that chassis.

The motor put down 294/275 at the wheels before the 3" exhaust and equal length long tube headers. I havent dyno'd it since. As you and a few others know, I do have a few last things planned just to see what the motor is capable of without power adders. Im hoping for 330/300 at the wheels. Im still toying with the idea of getting cams too. Im thinking those will be the key to hitting high 300s.

Honestly though, I dont think I'd sell the motor. I'd part out the CL and drop the engine into another chassis. Not sure what, maybe the back of a CRX, Elise, or maybe a kit car
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr

The motor put down 294/275 at the wheels before the 3" exhaust and equal length long tube headers. I havent dyno'd it since. As you and a few others know, I do have a few last things planned just to see what the motor is capable of without power adders. Im hoping for 330/300 at the wheels. Im still toying with the idea of getting cams too. Im thinking those will be the key to hitting high 300s.

Honestly though, I dont think I'd sell the motor. I'd part out the CL and drop the engine into another chassis. Not sure what, maybe the back of a CRX, Elise, or maybe a kit car




Lotus would be sick but dude my friend has an Elise, they are really really small. Have you ever tried to fit in one?
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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Tyler you have proved it again !!! :theghey:
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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Lotus would be sick but dude my friend has an Elise, they are really really small. Have you ever tried to fit in one?
I have not. The likelyhood of me dropping a J into the Elise is slim. I'd rather drop my K20 into one.

Another thought is a S2k....
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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Holy shit! This damn thread blew up. I don't even have time to keep up.

Cliffs???
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Not much has happened honestly. Most of the posts were pissed off members trying to figure out what wheels I got

Page 11 and 13 have the newest pics. Nothing has changed, but I do have stuff planned for next week
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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My 2 favorite j swaps are the s2k's and the mr2. The civics and tegs just look silly to me.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I have not. The likelyhood of me dropping a J into the Elise is slim. I'd rather drop my K20 into one.

Another thought is a S2k....
Riding lawn mower! Power to weight up the yin yang!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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My 2 favorite j swaps are the s2k's and the mr2. The civics and tegs just look silly to me.
Yea, whatever the J goes into, it will be MR or FR. The engine sticking through the hood on a FWD looks ridiculous to me.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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so whats up with FRS ? you dont seem to be crazy about it anymore... keep the CL as a daily trust me you will miss it
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Not crazy about the FR-S? I haven't touched the CL since the end of May. I think the battery is dead in it

Im not getting rid of the CL any time soon, but if the right opportunity presents itself (eg - a clean white or blue AP2 with a blown motor), then Im parting it out.

I love the FR-S. I've got over 4300 miles on it. I wash it on average 3 times a week. I take the very long way to work just to avoid construction. I haven't rushed out to buy tons of mods yet because Im waiting for the market to fully establish. The rate that things keep coming out, I have a feeling Ill have buyers remorse if I rush out and buy something now just to see a better product next week. Im also trying to do something I didnt do with the CL - enjoy it as close to stock as possible and enjoy every mod individually. I rushed things in the CL. The engine was stroked within 18 months of ownership. I got bored with it because there were very few mods left to do.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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you are right... just enjoy it and take it slowly like a virgin lol
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 08:00 AM
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The CL stock is kind of crappy, it needs mods especially suspension and brakes.

The FR-S seems much more capable in stock form, no reason to rush modding it.

BTW saw another FR-S the other day. This one was like a burnt orange color. These things sure are popping up everywhere.
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Had a small get together with some of the local owners. Look! A month into selling these cars and theres already more FR-S'/BRZs at a meet then the amount of CLs we could get Two modded STIs also showed up, but they left before I took a pic.



I didnt realize it until today, but I met the guy that owns the blue BRZ a few weeks ago when I was getting the clear bra done.

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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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I autocrossed against a couple FR-S' today. One had tires, maybe suspension, and a great driver, and beat my S2000 by about 0.5 seconds
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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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^ What color was it?

Forgot to mention, this came to the "meet" too:



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It was your dark gray color. Owner's name is Sam

There were a couple others there and they both spun out a few times
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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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Is that the Porsche with a tent for a roof???
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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Looks like a Spyder to me.

Morgan, your thoughts on this?...

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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Looks like a Spyder to me.

Morgan, your thoughts on this?...

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...20774736_n.jpg
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=554

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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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Oh yeah. Oops
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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moar pics
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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If you insist:







I wish I had a chance to wash it prior to the meet, but work said NO. I need those clear bumper lights Im also going to wait until next year to get the personalized plate that I want. I want to keep the May reg tags
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Awesome

I really like that orange color. Does it look that good in person?

Do you like the front plate location? I like when stuff is symmetrical and your plate bugs me
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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Meh. Is it all wheel drive ?
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Awesome

I really like that orange color. Does it look that good in person?

Do you like the front plate location? I like when stuff is symmetrical and your plate bugs me
"Hot Lava" (ghey name) is really nice in person. Its not the exact same shade thats available on the xB, so its hard to describe.



The white isn't bad in person, but that blue



I like the position of the plate. It keeps the radiator intake mostly unimpeded. There was no way in hell I was going to drill into the bumper to mount the OEM plate bracket either. I really wish we didn't have a front plate though

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Meh. Is it all wheel drive ?
Can't hear you over epic RWD burnouts....

BTW, forgot to add that these are not my pics. You can tell because theyre better
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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I was about to compliment you on the pictures. I'm glad I didn't
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