is300eater

just curious, is the EX35 pretty fast?

VQPower37

i prefer the gs type II sedan in 5 speed. i have probably seen like 4 of them ever. man i drool over that car

tmnhs81

I miss my TL. BMW's base seats suck. TL had awesome seats comfy yet still felt snug tight in there.

VQPower37

tl>3series imo

tmnhs81

It was a first gen. I bought this because RWD+manual. Would've loved if I had bought a 330i sport with MT.

teranfon

The cammer. A doomsday engine. I wish it would have been allowed to run on the oval tracks of America.




Terry

teranfon

If anyone is interested, the cammer was Ford's doomsday engine designed for NASCAR. It was based on the 427 side-oiler block and internals. What made it so exotic is that it used an idler shaft in place of the traditional camshaft. A single camshaft was used atop of each cylinder head instead, both driven by a six foot chain. Both engines were comfortable running up to 8500 rpm. Although much of the technology of the cammer can be considered commonplace today, keep in mind this was in the early to mid sixties. The single carburetor 4V was rated at 616 horsepower. The 8V dual carb was rated at 657 horsepower. Both ratings were very conservative.

Testing of these new engines took place in a 1964 Mercury Marauder. They were staggering, destroying all previous records. After the Chrysler camp regained consciousness they howled with protest. They were adamant that they would withdraw from NASCAR if the cammers were allowed to run.

A number of these engines eventually found their way into drag racing. A number were sold through the parts departments at Ford dealerships and ended up in several Ford vehicles. If you can find a cammer engine today, they often command prices of $25 000.00 and up depending on condition.





The cammer also makes a very distinctive sound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swnUj...eature=related

Terry

nokiaman

There are a lot of cars that I miss...

Starting with the late 60s Mustangs that I grew up loving...I wasn't around when they came out but I grew up cherishing Mustangs; namely the 69-70 Boss 429s. I'll never forget the day one of my grandfather's friend gave me a ride in a 429 when I was still 14 or 15 at the time in a Grabber Blue model (I believe it was called, don't exactly recall if it was a 69 or 70 but I think it was the latter) but I was remember being the happiest kid on earth that day. From that day on, I've grown an unexplicable affection for them; browsing time to time online despite their values being sky high.

The GT500 Eleanor models deserve a very special mention as well as I've done more than my fair share of drooling and reading up as much as I could when time permitted.

My last two are supercars that I sadly will most likely be never to afford with 400k+ price tag despite the ten years that separate them; the F40 and the Carrera GT.

Out of the cars I've owned, the M5 is the car that I dearly miss; I should have never sold it but had to at the time.

teranfon

Hi Mark

Do you recall what colour the hood scoop was? Matte black or body colour?



Terry

mrmako

I see those every day here. Really.

I miss my old 84 Pontiac Grand Prix, at times. Just because I did all the work on it, and really didn't do much work at all on her (bearings, a thermostat, and an alternator) in 160,000 miles plus.

I also miss my 1999 Volvo V70. Yes, a wagon. Was a blast on the Autobahn, got really good gas mileage, and the seats were the best I have ever sat in. Bought it a year old and sold it 5 years later in the same condition I bought it.

F23A4

not to mention that the current Si and GT-R filled the niche of the last two.

Honestly, I am a big fan of the original Mitsubishi Eclipse turbo (90-94). I am hoping that Honda or Nissan could replicate that formula in a new generation Prelude or Silvia (possibly using a powertrain derived from the RDX or Juke, respectively). I know: pipedream!

mrmako

Now that you mention it, I was a fan of the Mitsubishi GTO (Dodge Stealth) in turbo form. I always found the look of the car as pretty cool. And the Eclipse you speak of, well, I liked the Eagle Talon version with AWD. I thought that was a good car until reality set in (friends showed me they cost a lot to maintain).

The R34 was never a car that was affordable by the masses. Hell, those started at about $50K and went up when new. Similar to the Supra TT, which was the competition here. The NSX was more in the "supercar" territory but was not a particularly fast car.

SouthernBoy

Hey Terry;

Thanks for jumping in with that little history on the cammer. I knew you would be the one to give that information since you are a long-time Ford guy. I don't recall ever seeing a cammer on the street, but I saw several of them on the tracks. I remember seeing Connie Kalitta run his cammer AA/FD once at a track I frequented in Maryland. Truth be known, I still love to see the Ford Thunderbolt engines under a hood. Damn those looked good.

The '64 Mercury with the cammer in it in your included video produces a sound that a lot of people today would think is evidence of something terribly wrong with the engine. What they don't realize is it is the cam that is doing this coupled with headers.

For those of you who have never really experienced this, a hi-lift long duration solid lifter cam will reduce intake manifold vacuum quite a bit, thus causing a very "lopey" idle. If the car also has headers, the sound will be magnified a little and sound like the noise is exiting through cans. For the environmentally concerned, it is also rather common to see partially burned gases exiting the exhaust since there is so much overlap with these cams.

This is the period in which I grew up. Cars with hot cams, headers, hi-rise aluminum intake manifolds, Holley dual-feed carburetors, and fully exposed air cleaners were common place. Pulling up next to such a car at a light was music to the ears.

godfather2

i miss:

my modified 2004 s2000 (stolen) - the most fun car i've ever driven
my modified 2005 tsx (sold) - the most complete car i've ever owned
my modified 2000 civic (totalled) - the daily beater that would still be going today

Spike TL

I would say a Integra and a Dodge dart.

Rockstar21

iTrader: (1)

The point of the thread is cars we miss... As in cars that arent made anymore. Or cars we once owned. Not super rare ones.

Of course you can go out and see them on the road..

Dan1629

Terry are you serious! 25k for a cammer? I happen to know where one is, however I don't know how complete it is. I know for sure that the block,crank, heads, and pistons are there and of course the infamous 4 foot long timing chain.

drdamian

its quick. i like it in that respect and inside it is a really nice car. i just don't like the back end of it. and when i i see one on the road i hate it more. but nothing beats the all around cameras i use them all the time.

SouthernBoy

In 1988, I attended a "cruise through" at a Burger King in Falls Church, Virginia. At the time, I had an '88 Mustang LX 302CID so I didn't feel too bad. But most of the cars in there were later 50's, early to mid-60's, and a few late 60's to early 70's. One was a car I had just read about in the Auto section of the Washington Times on that day (Friday). It had photos so I immediately recognized it when I saw it; a '64 Pontiac Tempest LeMans GTO. But as a bunch of us were standing around talking and admiring the collection of American iron, we all suddenly stopped and shut up because of a car that cruised through the parking lot then went back out on the street. A 1968 Plymouth Road Runner with a 426 Hemi and a 4-speed transmission! He got some attention.

Nineteen years before this, in 1969, I followed a legend into that same Burger King with my '66 396 Chevelle. What entered in front of me was a '66 427 Shelby AC Cobra - the real thing. You would see them around on occasion, but this guy was right in front of me. It was black, his top was down, and I was loving it.

subinf

1991 Infiniti Q45. One of the greatest cars I've owned.

deantl

1992 Toyota Camry, my first ever car.. She was great, fairly quick and extremely reliable!

deantl

like the way you think

EuRTSX

I miss my 850...

Ken1997TL

Legend coupes
CRXs
3rd gen Accord/3rd gen Prelude
3rd gen Integras
S2000
NSX

nokiaman

Terry,

I recall very well the hood scoop being black, didn't know it was matte at the time.

But what a car...there is an older gentleman around that still drives his Boss around and every sunday morning at around 9 am, my windows are always open when he drives by.

Sclass88

8-Series

CL-S

NSX

subinf

x2. Especially considering the next paragraph mentions a volvo...hard to reconcile

mrmako

Because those are not seen too much in the USA, I took it as missed "don't see them any more". My bad.

Shift_Acura

MR2, 300ZX, RX-7, Supra, 240sx, 3000GT

nj2pa2nc

Our 1983 Mitsubishi Turbo-Diesel 4WD truck.

I hate cars

That was my first car. It was the family car until I turned 16 and then I destroyed it or tried to. That thing was indestructable even with teh 200c transmission. It had the Buick 3.8V6. I would stick it to the floor in neutral with valve float being the only form of revlimit and throw it in drive. We would see who could jump their cars the farthest at the loading docks. I filled it lake water whenever it overheated. The things I did to that car were unbelievable yet it always ran.


That's one of my all time favorite engines, a real piece of history. It's hard to believe that car were once sold with a lopey idle and basically race ready. IMO, there's no foreign car that can come close to the old American V8s of the '60s. The sound and the brutal power is just crazy.

I can always tell a 426 Hemi by it's unique exhaust note. Kind of a hollow sound to it. You can just tell it breathes well.

My list goes like this:

Fox body Mustangs since I grew up with these at every stop light.

MKIV Supra turbo

'60s Challengers and Barricudas especially with a 426 Hemi.

Yenko Camaros

It's going to sound weird but I grew up with it, a '72 Opel GT. Loved that car for unknown reasons.

The lightweight '04 Z06 Vettes. Not the fastest thing out there anymore but a very good foundation for a track rat. Chevy was on the right path with that one.